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Suzanne, London on November 20th, 2009
I too am getting a little fed up with the typical RTD script. Maybe things will improve when Steven Moffat (who wrote Blink, my favourite Dr Who episode) takes over as lead writer in 2010?
Donnaj St Louis, MO on November 19th, 2009
Waters of Mars deserves a Hugo and an Emmy and a BFI for all involved especially David Tennant, Grahaem Harper and Russell T. Davies. And yes, I know its not eligible for an Emmy but its that riveting.
cos, london on November 19th, 2009
loved it, dt brill as usual, russell t davies is fantastic
Mark Renshaw - St Helens on November 19th, 2009
A fantastic episode which takes us into unknown territory; for the first time we see how menacing the Doctor potentially could be, how little different there is between the Doctor and the Master. I had a theory years ago that the Master was a future regeneration of the Doctor but for some reason neither realise this. It was totally unfounded of course but the ending to Waters of Mars gave me goosebumps! So yeah the concept wasn’t 100% original. We had aspects of John Carpenter’s The Thing, 28 Days Later and even a little Wall-E thrown in to please the kids. However after around 30 seasons and several movies (love the Peter Cushing ones) running over nearly 60 years of television are people going to get so bogged down about originality? I mean really if you’re going to be so picky then avoid watching most TV shows and movies as there’s very little material which doesn’t borrow heavily from other sources. Overall this re-launch of Who has been, as Christopher Eccleston would say, fantastic! The show has grown from strength to strength. Tennant is amazing. As good as Tom Baker at least! Waters of Mars was incredible. Incredible acting, incredible production values (well done BBC Wales. You’ve managed to make a BBC programme look as good as much bigger budgeted US shows) incredible score by Mr Murray yet again and a script which was both classic Who while at the same time showing us a side of the Doctor we’ve never seen before. I thoroughly enjoyed it! The trailer for The End of Time fills me with dread as well as anticipation. I really don’t want to see Tennant go and part of me hopes this is all part of some trick to try and fool us all lol. For those who continue to slam RTD’s Who and say it’s complete rubbish I have to say, why everyone’s entitled to their opinion, why do you watch something you are obviously not enjoying at all? I may be quite mad in my own habits but if I dislike a show so much I usually don’t tune in to the next episode. Bonkers I know!!
Philip - Fareham on November 19th, 2009
I don't understand why he didn't just drop them off in the future where it wouldn't cause a temporal conflict. Also, what happened to the Reapers (from Father's Day) ? They turned up when Pete Tyler was 'saved' - why not now..!
pops in south wales on November 19th, 2009
"The Waters of Mars" what is there to say,watched it recoded it watched it again, watched it on BBC 3 last night. Enough said
Jon West, Halifax. on November 19th, 2009
I was very dissapointed. The episode was nothing more than a mish mash of recycled sci-fi ideas, and I think the zombie theme has been flogged to death in recent years (28 days later, etc.). Also the acting was abysmal and the overall pace and timing was inconsistent. To summarise it was a very amateurish and childish plot supposedly targeted at an adult audience.
dennis norfolk on November 19th, 2009
How were there external flames when there is no oxegen on mars
Claire, London on November 19th, 2009
The newspaper flashback is a device which saves time dramatically and Adelaide did not kill herself because of "sheer pique" - watch the episode again if you really think that. She acted bravely and selflessly to protect the future because she realised the potential consequences of The Doctor's actions and it shocked The Doctor out of his meglomania. The shocking change in the behaviour of The Doctor was not such a surprise if you have been watching his development since 2005 and made for great television. It was definitely unsettling for me. And the person who seems to think that Russell T Davies was writing for Doctor Who over a decade ago and was somehow responsible for its demise - well I had to laugh at that! No writer is going to please everyone all of the time. Criticism of RTD is fine and healthy but we shouldn’t forget that without his skill at making Doctor Who contemporary and more appealing to female fans it might not have lasted beyond one new series! DT was awesome as usual. We have been lucky to have such a charismatic and skillful actor playing the role and I will miss him terribly. I thought the tension in the episode built up well to the final exhilirating 10 minutes and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Lou Rowles Surrey on November 19th, 2009
C'mon guys, it's light entertainment transmitted at 7 pm. I watched it and it entertained me lightly like it's supposed too. Very happy to sit still for a whole hour which is more than can be said for some very, very popular shows. Enjoyed it and no doubt will enjoy the next.
steve in leicester on November 19th, 2009
Am I the only person who thought it didn't really live up to the preview hype? It got off to a great start but then ultimately wasn't nearly as scary as I'd expected. Too much time in the 2nd half taken up with the usual running around, closing the airlocks, with the monsters in pursuit. A bit of a let down. 7/10
Richard Purves on November 18th, 2009
Are you out of your minds? This episode just doesn't work! It doesn't work so badly, they had to telegraph the whole point that they're all supposed to die with that damn newspaper flashback. If you have to blatantly spell it out like that, surely you should have written it better in the first place? The already built up characterisation of the Doctor thrown completely aside for a five minute megalomanic moment? This is then followed by a completely unrealistic suicide ... sorry but people just don't kill themselves out of sheer pique. Speaking of characters, i'm getting a little sick of Russell T. Davies almost trademark completely unsympathetic lead characters. Time and time again I see actors and actresses portraying characters so obnoxious that within 30 seconds i'm praying for the damn monsters to get them and save me from any more drivel! The hackneyed and overused "base in peril" plot line? I've lost count how many times that one's been recycled now in Dr. Who. That and the stupid robot with voice. (Note to any scriptwriters out there: repeating an unfunny joke doesn't make it any funnier). Just get out Russell. Seriously. Let Steven Moffat, a man who's proved time and time again he can write and write WELL take over. We might once again have to save this show before it's too late. Dare I say it, we're rapidly heading for Sylvester McCoy territory so no wonder David Tennant is jumping ship while he can.
Mark, Hartlepool on November 18th, 2009
Weak and below par. Without a shred of proof about his time travelling abilities or knowledge the Doctor was believed and someone took their life over that belief. I find that story to lack a large amount of credibility. Effectively we waited an hour for the Doctor to convince himself that he could rescue people from a doomed expedition. There was no tension, no drama, nothing except waiting for the Doctor to drive the TARDIS into the base and get people out. Boring and lacking a lot of story.
Marisa from the United States on November 18th, 2009
I was shocked when I watched the ending, that wasn't my Doctor it was like watching someone you love fall into madness. I think this was the best Doctorwho episode so far and I can't wait for the final. I will miss David terribly he is the reason I watch the show and is it too much to ask for you to broadcast it on your website for us here in America I know your upset about us dumping your tea but get over it!
Damian Stuart Hertz on November 18th, 2009
Boring and unimaginative with about as much suspense as Songs of Praise! The end - up until the idiotic idea that a suposedly intelligent/ heroic figure would be dumb enough to chose suicide over every other available option, was reasonable but in no way made up for 45 mins of 'filler' to 10 mins of story. Awful and deeply dissapointing. Russel T Davies is back to his tricks of "Write something so bad people will be glad to see the end of it" tricks he used to kill off Doctor Who a decade ago. Still vastly better than X factor at least.
Yvonne, Doncaster on November 18th, 2009
I thought this was one of the best Dr Who episodes ever, dark, unyielding, with the ever-present sense of impending doom. Yet not without the occasional, characteristic humour we're used to seeing on the 'Doctor', such as, the wondrous robot. I wish DT were staying a while longer, he has shown himself to be a worthy Doctor, almost as great as Tom Baker IMHO.
Sid, Out there somewhere on November 18th, 2009
For those wishing Doctor Who was more dark and gritty than this, (I can't remember who said it) I think you need to find something that's actually written solely for adults. A woman shot herself in the head at the end of the episode because of something the Doctor did. If you want darker than that, stop watching family programming.
robinupps, uk on November 17th, 2009
much better without the kids.
Daniella, Bury on November 17th, 2009
It's interesting how if you don't like the episode, you get told to 'grow up' because of discussing plot holes or lack of originality, and that somehow, because you think about it a little bit more than most, this makes you less intelligent. No, rather it makes us rather less willing to ass kiss - simply because Tennant graces our TV screens once again is no substitute for a good plot and a good script. Unfortunately this episode presented neither. Not scary, not thought-provoking, just... another episode. It's as if they chucked the entire episode together just so that they could set up the Christmas special. And I really hope they have a good Christmas episode - there's so much potential with the Master but it didn't quite deliver last time. Don't get me wrong, John Simm definitely delivered, but the story just wasn't complex enough. Just because it's called a 'children's show' doesn't mean you should compromise the integrity of programme. It's almost insulting.
Steven on November 17th, 2009
The build up to Tennant's departure reminds me slightly of Logopolis and Tom Baker's departure. Both Doctors knew their death and regeneration was coming (the Fourth Doctor saw the Watcher and the Tenth Doctor has the premonitions). Both times the Cloister Bell rang. Spooky stuff. Hope the Time Lords return in the next specials. I have a feeling they will do to punish the Tenth Doctor in some way.
Daryl, Barcelona on November 17th, 2009
Words... can not describe... amazing...
Lyndsay, Shropshire on November 17th, 2009
It was absolutely brilliant and yet again proves that DT is a great actor and my favourite Doctor! My fave bits were "The Doctor, Doctor, FUN!" and the wild Doctor desperately trying to save these people near the end. Last 15 minutes with the different attitude and the stance of the Doctor is just brilliant. If this episode is anything to go by, the last 2 will blow us away and DT, RTD, and everyone else will go out on a high!
stewart glasgow on November 17th, 2009
I thought it was great- and how disappointing to read the comments of some morons who genuinely think that they could have written better. I hope Steven Moffat has thick skin but what amazes me is that "fans" will criticise ever nuance that he might become disillusioned and give up. For true fans please remember that not every episode is going to be the best ever but beware of overcriticising.
lila, here on November 17th, 2009
that fear in his eyes when he saw the Ood... those final words : My death the tears i cried because i was like him, afraid of his coming death
Ross, Edinburgh on November 17th, 2009
It was Rubbish and I am a Dr Who fan of 40 years. Terrible acting and poor story line.
bevers wolverhampton on November 17th, 2009
loved the latest doctor who,what can i say,the dark side of the doctor came out,and it was a great story,some people take a tv series way to seriously and forget it's a show for family viewing,and has to be entertaining as well.i'll miss david tennant when he leaves,he's taken the doctor to a whole new generation who had lost interest in the series! i loved waters of mars.my boyfriend is a massive doctor who fan,and he was hugely impressed,so roll on christmas! and lets hope david leaves in another great story,and matt can start to develope his role has the doctor,and carry the interest in the series on!
Val, West Midlands on November 17th, 2009
There were a couple of things I really didn't like. That robot was irritating, it wouldn't have taken the Doctor 2 seconds to blast its loudspeaker out! The Wikipedia-style plot device also felt lazy, why not cram that sort of thing into every story if that's how the Doctor recalls events? Apart from that, yes there were plot holes and inconsistencies but anything can be ruined by analysing it to death. The thing that worked best about the story was the overall feeling of tension and hopelessness. My favourite stories have always been the ones where the Doctor doesn't have easy answers for everything, such as Blink and Midnight. The Waters Of Mars had that feel and, if anything, I would have liked that to have been explored even more. Hopefully Ten will have the realisation that he needs the human touch to keep him sane, paving the way for a great relationship between Eleven and Amy Pond (which I'm really looking forward to, by the way).
Mark, Scotland... on November 17th, 2009
wow so many bitching by people who probably have never picked up a book without pictures before ;) i mean seriously do you read your own comments after you post them, "the episode was awful" i could have written bett... "typical RTD rubbish" because i sound cool using acronyms yet my intelligence measures 2 politicians and a Garry Glitter. Probably the same people who find Harry Hill, Michael Mcintyre and Andy Parsons funny. I'm sorry but telling a joke in various loud stupid and obnoxious voices doesn't make it any funnier. The same type of person that would use "stupidest" in a sentence. Yeah i'm mocking the intelligence, consistency and ability to sprout more crap than Alistair Darling on a Sunday morning. Get some perspective, it's a good episode shown extremely late, since the trailers have been seen since May. Of course you're all stupid enough to actually post every spolier in the book, so any american reading, we apologise... britain is always this inbred and stupid (that will never change). Engage your brains people, there's other people out there opposed to you, and your opinion... is pretty much worthless. David Tannent will be missed... but his crappy english accent definately won't be ;)
Mietek on November 17th, 2009
Had me perched on my armchair in terror from the water logged zombies, but as many have mentioned, the fact the watery fiends were stopped by a filter but not 2 foot thick metal and special industrial grade insulating materials was asking too much of me. Gotta get me some of those filters. The denouement was well played if not a bit on off. Glad I watched, would not have missed it, but I think they could have cleaned up a few of the more obvious inconsistencies.
MAZB From london on November 16th, 2009
The episode was very good with good emotions round but quite confusing to be truthful with scenes scattered everywhere.
Salacious & Wolverhampton on November 16th, 2009
I was seriously let down over all until the darkside of the Doctor slowly eeked out and stood proud in defiance. Too many points to knock, the water dropping from a great height , clearly plagerised from 28 days later where a drop of blood flass and lands on a face soon to make them a Zombie. The storyline lacked the usual flair but sadly does reflect the recent poorly scripted adventures. Could tis be their way to help the new actor MAtt look better than many of us believe he will be? Playing on his wisdom and maturity against how young he will look? I love this doctor and all the gloriana that goes with him, but copied ideas and lazy scripts should never be excused by them, by the media or by fans.
Donna, Coventry on November 16th, 2009
Absolutely brilliant. Proving once again just why only RTD could bring DW back and make a phenomenal success of it again. Russel is a fantastic writer and i love that he gave David the opportunity to flex his acting muscles. David has a brilliant way of 'face' acting and the turmoil he made the doctor go through was excruciating to watch and utterly brilliant. I know that Russel had to tone down the episode twice and i would really love to see the first edit! My daughter was scared, making me cover her eyes when Andy first turned round but you would expect a two year old to be slightly frightened, however the doctor always perks her up saying 'come on doctor'. I thought it was outstanding, with DW you expect to be taken aback by strange looking aliens and creatures from the farthest reaches of the universe but when it's some thing that affects us, the human race it makes it feel all that more real and placing it on Mars was a brilliant choice, not too far away for it to be unbelievable. The new direction of the doctor is superb, he has resigned himself to death, he knows he is nearing the end and this is allowing Russel to show the doctor off in a more ruthless light. The doctor knows that there are fixed points but i think hearing the cries of those people he has to walk away from he can't bear it and something snaps, his new attitude- thinking that he is the overlord of time makes him that bit closer to the master almost believing like Dalek Caan that he can go back and save someone from the time war if he can save Adeline is something to be afraid of and like she tells him no one should have that much power. I utterly enjoyed it, it was well worth that wait, the whole concept was brilliantly terrifying and the execution superb. I can't wait for Christmas, i have my theories and lets hope i'm right again, i love the way Russel thinks. Come on Let's go out with a big in your face, you can never top me bang!!
Steve, Carlisle on November 16th, 2009
Wasn't amazing. Wasn't terrible. Average episode with a weak plot. Hope it gets better during Christmas but I'm not holding my breath. I'm not looking forward to the new guy though......
Peter, Brighton on November 16th, 2009
Scary? Not at all. Doctor gets out of Tardis-area covered in rocks and boulders. Rubbish robot zooms along to Tardis at end of episode, the ground is clear. Nothing is explained. Why on earth would they continue to use the water if the filter didn't fit? Surely they'd have a bit more common sense. I was really looking forward to this story, but, yet again, RTD pens a story with more holes that a slice of Gouda cheese. I am so looking forward to being rid of Tennant and RTD. I want Dr Who to be much darker, more serious, better acted, less twee. Such a pity Chris didn't stay for a 2nd series-there would have been less gurning and mawkish sentimentality.
alan fletcher , darlington , uk on November 16th, 2009
one of the best twists to a dr. who episodes , looking forward to the next, as an addict to the tom baker era this was up there with the best
princess, london on November 16th, 2009
its so sad david has 2 leave soon. i feel sory 4 matt coz he has 2 follow up on david who is amazing at what he does. i liked dis episode it kinda showd de doctors power nd emotions 2 havin controle ova life nd death.
Eddie, New Orleans La. on November 16th, 2009
It's sad to see RTD and this article writer boast and praise so highly this episode when in the end it is a big pile of rubbish. If it wasn't for the character of the Doctor himself, this and many of RTD's episodes would hold no ground. It was a great concept executed poorly. I dread sitting through the final episodes of Tennants episodes, (Tennant is brilliant by the way) only to find that past stories will be re-written and old characters of the past will once again will be revived to bring and end to this doctor. I can not wait to move away from the RTD formula of story telling. Thanks for reviving the show RTD, but you too have become stale and need to let a fresh perspective take control.
Raddish on November 16th, 2009
@Damien A fire can burn in no atmosphere without oxygen around as long as what is burning has ocygen in it.
Chris Zoah, Swansea on November 16th, 2009
I loved it. So what if the "base under siege" formula has been used before? I didn't see it when I was watching it. All I was concerned about was whether the Doctor was going to do the right thing by his emotions or the right thing by his beliefs. So what if we don't learn about where the water parasite comes from - it took us 12 years to find out where the Daleks really came from. I don't want to know about a water parasite's obvious intentions, they're pretty damn obvious - it wants water because it is water. The Ice Warriors reference was nicely done as it'll get the kids asking their parents and grandparents about them. The Dalek scene, although not touching IMO, reminded me that sometimes even genocidal mutated Kaleds can tell that something would be wrong in the universe if it were to kill everyone it saw - and when compared with the power-drunk Doctor declaring death to the Laws of Time he had been sworn to protect we saw the Doctor prepared to change Earth's history in a way that even the Dalek wasn't prepared to do. We saw The Doctor deluding himself into thinking he was the "Time Lord Victorious" instead of just another renegade Time Lord abusing his power. The fact that the Reapers from ''Father's Day'' didn't swoop down and swallow Adelaide or her corpse whole showed the Doctor that for all his arrogance, he couldn't stop a human being protecting her legacy and her people's future. That he had risked his life, embraced the powertrip that The Master, The Monk and The Rani (The Warchief, not so much) had experienced - and tried to change time...all for nothing. The death of the Doctor isn't the death of one of his lives, it's of his nature as Time's Champion. Yes, we sent too little time between seeing the arrogance and then the realisation of what he's done, but that happens with people who are disturbed by trauma.
Gazza Gallagher Portrush on November 16th, 2009
ok I am a big DR WHO fan (42 now) but I think I will be glad to see a fresh DR all Tennant seems to do these days is run round screaming and shouting or saying no no no and then the two expressions are either I am so sad and lonely or the other one which looks like a wee boy who has pooed himself and needs his mommey and really I know you have to suspend your rational thoughs for DR who but really landing on Mars out of the blue or should that be red and you just happen to be within walking distance of the base and on that oh so very special day, really I ask you. I think we are just so starved of who that we forgive such childish writing. It really does sadden me to say all the above because I really love the show.