The New EPG:- Information Here - Page 21 - Sky+ HD

bprentice2009 · 04-11-2009, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Peter Henderson

are the SD boxes going to get the new EPG eventually as well ?

Just noticed the promo has now appeared on anytime on my Amstrad box so they must be upgrading soon as well.

SD Boxes will not be getting the HD EPG

DarloJo · 05-11-2009, 03:25

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but is there a way to roll back to the old EPG if I contact Sky? Just had a forced reboot on our box, and I hate the new guide! I get headaches and struggle to read light text on dark backgrounds, and the new EPG is proving to cause me the same problems... I really liked the old interface, and it looked crisp and clean, rather than a knockoff of a freeview menu!

bprentice2009 · 05-11-2009, 03:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarloJo

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but is there a way to roll back to the old EPG if I contact Sky? Just had a forced reboot on our box, and I hate the new guide! I get headaches and struggle to read light text on dark backgrounds, and the new EPG is proving to cause me the same problems... I really liked the old interface, and it looked crisp and clean, rather than a knockoff of a freeview menu!

you could try a forced update that may get it back for a while but eventually everyone will have the new EPG.

kipster · 05-11-2009, 10:14

A force update won't roll bck to the old EPG, you're stuck with it.

darkmatter111 · 05-11-2009, 10:54

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Originally Posted by DarloJo

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but is there a way to roll back to the old EPG if I contact Sky? Just had a forced reboot on our box, and I hate the new guide! I get headaches and struggle to read light text on dark backgrounds, and the new EPG is proving to cause me the same problems... I really liked the old interface, and it looked crisp and clean, rather than a knockoff of a freeview menu!

I agree and do not like the new EPG at all

laurie53 · 05-11-2009, 15:19

Just received my little black book, exactly one week after the new EPG appeared with no warning at all.

Because of forums like this I knew what was going on, but I feel sorry for anyone who just woke up, switched on and found themselves in totally unfamiliar territory.

One thing I already hate is the fact that the sound stays on even if you turn mini tv off.

Turned the planner on to play back a sports event I was recording on the weekend just in time to hear the commentator announce the final result in the background!

Jaycee Dove · 05-11-2009, 15:30

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Originally Posted by laurie53

Just received my little black book, exactly one week after the new EPG appeared with no warning at all.

Because of forums like this I knew what was going on, but I feel sorry for anyone who just woke up, switched on and found themselves in totally unfamiliar territory.

One thing I already hate is the fact that the sound stays on even if you turn mini tv off.

Turned the planner on to play back a sports event I was recording on the weekend just in time to hear the commentator announce the final result in the background!

Unfortunately this was first mentioned about an hour after the first boxes got the new EPG in March and it is a seriously stupid design flaw (as in not being able to turn OFF the mini TV - just the picture).

Sky will surely have to change it one day as they must have had hundreds of complaints by now (we had the result of Countdown wrecked on day one of the new EPG months ago - instantly turning me off the mini TV and it has never been on since).

Yes you can press mute but having to remember that everytime you chase play recordings dilutes the use of the box - all due to idiotic software design that seems to have been drawn up by people who have never actually used a box in the way many people use it day in and out (eg chase play).

A simple OFF means OFF option to disable picture and sound is all that was needed giving the choice to the viewer not enforced onto them as now with hardly difficult to spot negative downsides to the usefullness of the box.

But I bet it will be years before we see something that in truth any credible pre testing programme ought to have identified a year or more ago.

BBDefender · 05-11-2009, 19:08

Couldnt agree more re the sound in background on new epg. If you turn the mini tv off it should turn the sound off as well, this is the worst thing by far that the new epg brings. Aside from this I think its pretty good but this one issue is really annoying. If you set mini tv to off it should give you the sky guide music instead, or at the very least be silent. I cant believe they left this bug in when it has such spoiler potential.

Sned · 06-11-2009, 13:31

Dam, no christmas music this year.

xanadu · 06-11-2009, 16:25

unless you stick it on a music channel with xmas music before you go into the planner

I'll miss the xmas music as well

Adam Law · 06-11-2009, 16:28

Can't you manually tune the EPG Background audio?

One United · 06-11-2009, 19:14

I loved the Xmas music

Hypnopedia · 07-11-2009, 12:21

I'm looking forward to the features of the new EPG, but worried about the reliability issues - when SKY did there last big EPG update a few years back I got the old skipping issue and despite months of ringing and getting nowhere as they would not admit they had anything to do with it I told them to stuff it and bought a Humax.

The Mini TV feature - I have the same thing on my Humax and it's great to stick it on BBC News when I get home from work, get the planner up and I can then listen to the days events whilst browsing it - if you don't want any spoilers for events you've recorded can't you just switch it on Dave or some other repeat driven channel before you stick the EPG on or am I missing something obvious...???! Or Mute the sound?

Having gone back to Sky for HD the most annoying feature of the old EPG is having to start at the top of it everytime you go in - why doesn't it pop-up on the channel you are viewing?

Anyway have an Amstrad so I guess I'll have to be patient ...!

martybrum · 08-11-2009, 11:11

Remember tho' that the SKY box had to retune to another channel to get that dreadful EPG music. This makes Input2 redundant whilst browsing the guide, and surely contributed to many failed recordings.

I don't think its beyond the technical expertise of SKY's engineers to turn the sound off, but I'd rather not have the horrid EPG music.

Not sure what memory is on the box to allow them to download a piece of music to the hard drive that could replay itself rather than tuning to the EPG music channel.

Ramsay Ladders · 08-11-2009, 12:42

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Originally Posted by Sned

Dam, no christmas music this year.

Another plus point for the new EPG for me then

timey · 08-11-2009, 12:49

Christmas music? I'd just be happy to have a box that worked.

Ayce · 08-11-2009, 22:54

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Originally Posted by Sned

Dam, no christmas music this year.

If your a Facebook user and like the EPG music, old, new or even Chrimbo then have a look at this app

http://apps.facebook.com/skyguide/?_...344abe7ef969f8

Terran

skid_mark · 09-11-2009, 13:00

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Originally Posted by fmradiotuner1

I find no change in picture PQ with the new EPG but one thing I dont like about this is the removed volume control which has made sky HD way quieter than freeview now.....

Old post but can't see any response to this. Volume is way too low (>10Db less than before) and no hidden menu to change it either - or is there?

mlythaby · 14-11-2009, 14:19

Just had the upgrade on my Samsung box yesterday.

The upgrade had a problem, believe it or not the LNB was turned off!!!

Hidden menu, go to setup section press 0 0 1 select

turn lnb on and ohter 2 options by it.

I like to new epeg.

mlythaby · 14-11-2009, 18:31

Just manually added ITV HD, excellent!

Bernard Cribbin · 15-11-2009, 08:10

Just got the new epg on my amstrad which has never failed to record for me , until now......

I recorded the following programs in hd on saturday night

The thick of it it (bbc hd)
UfC 105 (Espn hd)
Manny v coto (sky sports hd)

and they have all been recorded with no fkin sound. I am livid.

Jaycee Dove · 15-11-2009, 16:50

Try play, rewind, play as I have noticed that sometimes via the new EPG recordings play with no sound until you do that but for me this kicks the sound in.

Worth a go.

Hoi.Polloi · 16-11-2009, 16:25

The new E.P.G. has the sliding graphic that slows down the hole thing. That's terribly un-user friendly and annoying!

jacko 2 · 17-11-2009, 15:38

Gone back to my Sky Plus box hate the new EPG on Sky Plus HD it's total crap

Andrue · 17-11-2009, 16:21

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Originally Posted by jacko 2

Gone back to my Sky Plus box hate the new EPG on Sky Plus HD it's total crap

Oh not another one

. Did you give it longer than five minutes? I know it looks different but for normal use (browsing the guide and choosing recordings to play back) it's not much different.

The mini-TV is mildly irritating but not that big a deal. Otherwise give your eyes/brain a day or so to adapt and you'll find you forget all about it.

Not that I'm a fan of the update myself but I do think you're being a bit silly. As the old phrase has it 'throwing your toys out of your pram'.

05-11-2009, 03:25	#502
DarloJo Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 467	Sorry if this is a FAQ, but is there a way to roll back to the old EPG if I contact Sky? Just had a forced reboot on our box, and I hate the new guide! I get headaches and struggle to read light text on dark backgrounds, and the new EPG is proving to cause me the same problems... I really liked the old interface, and it looked crisp and clean, rather than a knockoff of a freeview menu!

05-11-2009, 10:14	#504
kipster Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Services: Provider of jokes, drunken ramblings, and eye candy. Posts: 239	A force update won't roll bck to the old EPG, you're stuck with it.

05-11-2009, 15:19	#506
laurie53 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 14	Just received my little black book, exactly one week after the new EPG appeared with no warning at all. Because of forums like this I knew what was going on, but I feel sorry for anyone who just woke up, switched on and found themselves in totally unfamiliar territory. One thing I already hate is the fact that the sound stays on even if you turn mini tv off. Turned the planner on to play back a sports event I was recording on the weekend just in time to hear the commentator announce the final result in the background!

05-11-2009, 19:08	#508
BBDefender Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 63	Couldnt agree more re the sound in background on new epg. If you turn the mini tv off it should turn the sound off as well, this is the worst thing by far that the new epg brings. Aside from this I think its pretty good but this one issue is really annoying. If you set mini tv to off it should give you the sky guide music instead, or at the very least be silent. I cant believe they left this bug in when it has such spoiler potential.

06-11-2009, 13:31	#509
Sned Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Co. Cork Ireland Services: Sky+HD & multiroom, UTV Broadband Posts: 72	Dam, no christmas music this year.

06-11-2009, 16:25	#510
xanadu Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: UK Services: Sky+ TV, Virgin BB, Phone and TV Posts: 169	unless you stick it on a music channel with xmas music before you go into the planner I'll miss the xmas music as well

06-11-2009, 16:28	#511
Adam Law Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: London, England, UK Services: Sky+ HD & Multiroom, PS3, Xbox 360, PSN: Xign, Xbox Live: X1gn Posts: 1,091	Can't you manually tune the EPG Background audio?

06-11-2009, 19:14	#512
One United Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,034	I loved the Xmas music

07-11-2009, 12:21	#513
Hypnopedia Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 17	I'm looking forward to the features of the new EPG, but worried about the reliability issues - when SKY did there last big EPG update a few years back I got the old skipping issue and despite months of ringing and getting nowhere as they would not admit they had anything to do with it I told them to stuff it and bought a Humax. The Mini TV feature - I have the same thing on my Humax and it's great to stick it on BBC News when I get home from work, get the planner up and I can then listen to the days events whilst browsing it - if you don't want any spoilers for events you've recorded can't you just switch it on Dave or some other repeat driven channel before you stick the EPG on or am I missing something obvious...???! Or Mute the sound? Having gone back to Sky for HD the most annoying feature of the old EPG is having to start at the top of it everytime you go in - why doesn't it pop-up on the channel you are viewing? Anyway have an Amstrad so I guess I'll have to be patient ...!

08-11-2009, 11:11	#514
martybrum Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Birmingham, Kingshurst Services: Virgin 2mb Broadband, SKY+ HD Posts: 144	Remember tho' that the SKY box had to retune to another channel to get that dreadful EPG music. This makes Input2 redundant whilst browsing the guide, and surely contributed to many failed recordings. I don't think its beyond the technical expertise of SKY's engineers to turn the sound off, but I'd rather not have the horrid EPG music. Not sure what memory is on the box to allow them to download a piece of music to the hard drive that could replay itself rather than tuning to the EPG music channel.

08-11-2009, 12:49	#516
timey Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Pictland Services: Sky+ HD (Samsung James Bond version), Sony Bravia 40" LCD, Freeview Posts: 16,217	Christmas music? I'd just be happy to have a box that worked.

14-11-2009, 14:19	#519
mlythaby Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Services: Sky HD, Eclipse BB, Samsung 1080p LCD Freeview Posts: 389	Just had the upgrade on my Samsung box yesterday. The upgrade had a problem, believe it or not the LNB was turned off!!! Hidden menu, go to setup section press 0 0 1 select turn lnb on and ohter 2 options by it. I like to new epeg.

14-11-2009, 18:31	#520
mlythaby Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Services: Sky HD, Eclipse BB, Samsung 1080p LCD Freeview Posts: 389	Just manually added ITV HD, excellent!

15-11-2009, 08:10	#521
Bernard Cribbin Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 109	Just got the new epg on my amstrad which has never failed to record for me , until now...... I recorded the following programs in hd on saturday night The thick of it it (bbc hd) UfC 105 (Espn hd) Manny v coto (sky sports hd) and they have all been recorded with no fkin sound. I am livid.

15-11-2009, 16:50	#522
Jaycee Dove Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,157	Try play, rewind, play as I have noticed that sometimes via the new EPG recordings play with no sound until you do that but for me this kicks the sound in. Worth a go.

16-11-2009, 16:25	#523
Hoi.Polloi Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 122	The new E.P.G. has the sliding graphic that slows down the hole thing. That's terribly un-user friendly and annoying!

17-11-2009, 15:38	#524
jacko 2 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 59	Gone back to my Sky Plus box hate the new EPG on Sky Plus HD it's total crap