[hallam]

Originally Posted by degsyhufc

On the subject of Mock The Week then yes. He admitted to that and said it's one of his reasons for leaving.

So he blames the producers and the audience for his own shortcomings as a comic then. Still he managed to collect those nice fat paycheques for the last seven series, so it obviously didn't bother his fine sensibilities too much at the time. Funniest part is how he slags off the Queen for not paying tax and the editor adds she's actually been paying tax since 1993. Yeah stay away from the political stuff Frankie, you haven't got the intelligence. Stick to what you know best, like slagging off women's looks for no reason. That seems to keep your fans amused.

[barkley]

Originally Posted by hallam

So he blames the producers and the audience for his own shortcomings as a comic then. Still he managed to collect those nice fat paycheques for the last seven series, so it obviously didn't bother his fine sensibilities too much at the time. Funniest part is how he slags off the Queen for not paying tax and the editor adds she's actually been paying tax since 1993. Yeah stay away from the political stuff Frankie, you haven't got the intelligence. Stick to what you know best, like slagging off women's looks for no reason. That seems to keep your fans amused.

Yeah I love it, one of his fans links to an article to defend Boyle, and all the article demonstrates is how far up his own arse Boyle really is

[JCR]

Originally Posted by barkley

Er.. so frankie boyle and mock the week is your idea of edgy comedy is it? they're about as edgy as a f***ing marshmallow. They're a BBC producer's idea of edgy. being edgy involves a little more than insulting people for no reason, saying f**k a few times, or appearing on a safe cushy little panel game. Oh and actually being funny might also help a bit as well. try watching the late Bill Hicks on dvd or Richard Pryor in his prime for true uncompromising comedy, Boyle's efforts are but processed watered-down shit in comparison. Remember comics who actually believed in what they said? who actually made you THINK, instead of always going for the cheap laugh? I despair sometimes I truly do.

It's somewhat unfair to compare Boyle to Hicks or Pryor, as in their prime they were both easily the best stand ups in the world, and I don't think anyone is claiming Boyle is at that level. Hell I like FB, but I wouldn't consider him one of the best stand ups in Britain at the moment. (Just off the top of my head, Stewart Lee, John Bishop, Brendon Burns, Rhod Gilbert and Milton Jones are all much better than Boyle, in my humble opinion)

[degsyhufc]

and dont forget Billy Connolly, Peter Kay and Eddie Izzard. They came out above all of them, including Pryor and Hicks in the list for greatest standups - hey, not my opinion but "chosen by your good selves voting on the website, the views of industry experts and our critical opinion" (Channel 4).

I'm not saying Boyle is anywhere near those two. Who is these days? You can keep watching those DVDs if you want but i'd rather try to discover new talent.

and i'm not completely defending Boyle either. I'm just pointing to an article where he admits that he basically dropped to the lowest common denominator throughout the series and got fed up of it.


I like Frankie Boyle. I also like Bill Hicks. Wow... mind boggling!

[JCR]

Heh, saying Peter Kay is better than Bill Hicks or Richard Pryor. Now that's funny!

[degsyhufc]

But the British public voted for it (not forgetting the views of industry experts and our critical opinion)

http://www.channel4.com/entertainmen...ups/index.html

[JonJonB]

Frankie Boyle is miles funnier than Bill Hicks. Hell, I'm funnier than that angry turd was. How he enjoyed any measure of success is beyond me.

[Dollystanford]

don't forget Bill Bailey!!!

[hicken]

Originally Posted by Caltonfan

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Frankie is quite correct in that since the whole Manuelgate thing the BBC are trying to take comedy back to the dark ages, nothing can be risque anymore.

It seems like the opposite to me. His joke about RA is no better than something a builder might have bellowed off a building site 30 years ago. Ugly men sniping at attractive women is VERY passé.

[daziechain]

'Mock the Week' will be less funny without Frankie .. I sometimes gasped at his jokes but he was the funniest guy on there and certainly the edgiest .. we don't just want safe comedy surely.

[brody]

Originally Posted by hallam

So he blames the producers and the audience for his own shortcomings as a comic then. Still he managed to collect those nice fat paycheques for the last seven series, so it obviously didn't bother his fine sensibilities too much at the time. Funniest part is how he slags off the Queen for not paying tax and the editor adds she's actually been paying tax since 1993. Yeah stay away from the political stuff Frankie, you haven't got the intelligence. Stick to what you know best, like slagging off women's looks for no reason. That seems to keep your fans amused.

indeed, he blames the producers and audience for the fact that hes a shit comic, the pathetic little tw*t.

[brody]

Originally Posted by degsyhufc

I'm not saying Boyle is anywhere near those two. Who is these days? You can keep watching those DVDs if you want but i'd rather try to discover new talent.

and i'm not completely defending Boyle either. I'm just pointing to an article where he admits that he basically dropped to the lowest common denominator throughout the series and got fed up of it.

he never had to drop very far, the "lowest common denominator" is about his natural level anyway, the man is a sewer rat. and as for him being "NEW TALENT"? ffs give me a break if he ever managed to demonstrate any actual comedic talent it would be a miracle. i doubt if he's one of the best comics in his own flat, let alone britain.

[hallam]

Originally Posted by Doctor Why

Actually, I never liked Bill Hicks either. Sorry, but he didn't cut the mustard for me at all.

I'm not a huge fan of Mock the Week, it's definitely not as good as Buzzcocks or Argumental, but it's unfair to slag the show off when it features Dara O Briain and Hugh Dennis, who (to be fair) don't seem inclined to go down the "nasty, offensive" route on the show. I always enjoy Hugh's voice-over dubbing of the royal family clips and his "one-liners" in the final round, he's quite a talented performer.

Ah, so its "unfair" to slag off the show, but him slagging off a woman's looks is cool because shes "fair game"? It works both ways, if she's apparently "fair game" that makes him "fair game" too.

[i4u]

Originally Posted by JCR

Or he has a cynical, nihilistic world view fueled by alcoholism and the realization that life's a bitch and then you die?

Would that be Boyle in a bag?

[Steve Hartley]

Mock The Week centres on events that happen and Addlington featured so is fair game like anyone else in the news

[grimtales1]

Originally Posted by degsyhufc

On the subject of Mock The Week then yes. He admitted to that and said it's one of his reasons for leaving.

Interesting. A lot of the time I find SWLTS the best part of the show IMO

[barkley]

Originally Posted by JonJonB

There are many great standups who could/can blow away every episode of mock the week in a single set. Hicks just wasn't one of them.

He was.

Originally Posted by JonJonB

Comedians should have no agenda or motive other than to make people laugh.

Boyle can't even manage that without resorting to third-rate insults.

Originally Posted by JonJonB

Now kindly piss off and take your attitude with you, you lost the thread several pages back.

Throwing your rattle out the pram again? Looks like you're the one with the attitude problem matey

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[starsailor]

Originally Posted by brody

indeed, he blames the producers and audience for the fact that hes a shit comic, the pathetic little tw*t.

the guy does have a point. The producers put up the picture of RA and then asked him and others to be funny and edgy about it.

What do the producers expect? If anything the BBC have more to blame because they want it both ways. They want edgy and popular stuff, yet still want it to be nice and fitting into their BBC-mindset.


The BBC are the hypocrits here.

[grimtales1]

Yeah, also the BBC broadcast the joke in the first place which meant they must have thought it acceptable, no?

[brody]

Originally Posted by starsailor

the guy does have a point. The producers put up the picture of RA and then asked him and others to be funny and edgy about it.

What do the producers expect? If anything the BBC have more to blame because they want it both ways. They want edgy and popular stuff, yet still want it to be nice and fitting into their BBC-mindset.


The BBC are the hypocrits here.

hes a total hypocrit, one minute hes saying oh its all the producers fault, what i really want to do is comedy with more depth and substance (yeah right, as if you could ), then in the next breath he compounds his fatuous insult to rebecca even further. so he clearly feels hes still justified in saying what he said anyway and its actually got sod all to do with what the producers want, the ignorant tw*t.

hes blaming them for the fact hes not smart enough to come up with a line about someone without insulting that person for absolutely no justifiable reason, its a bogus bullshit excuse. edgy does not mean being blatantly insulting for no reason like he was, that is totally out of order. he cant just absolve responsibility for the crap that comes out of his mouth as if hes a bloody six year old, thats just so weak.

he said the "joke" in the first place so the responsibility is clearly on him for saying it, AND the bbc for being stupid enough to show it.

[crake]

Boyle shouldn't have made that comment. If only because Rebecca Adlington will now flatten him with one swipe of her giant man hands.

[Sorry]

Mock the week will not be the same without him and it was pretty hit and miss as it is.

He was telling the truth about her, however harsh.

[parsleyisfun]

Frankie Boyle is a good comedian, but so far up his own a**e he can see light shining through the other end. Yes, it's my opinion but I fail to see how anyone can see him as anything otherwise - he comes across as a vile man who needs to be centre of attention all the time and take attention away from the other people on the panels. Hugh Dennis is incredibly clever, far more so than Frankie Boyle, and yet there are hundreds of people saying MTW won't be the same without him, it'll be bad now and everything.

He was quite happy to do it when he was centre of attention - but Russell Howard is big news now, and so are some of the other guests coming on there - even the warm-up act is better than Frankie, we saw that on the episode when he was away! - so he doesn't want to do it anymore

[kpmfan]

Originally Posted by Sorry

Mock the week will not be the same without him and it was pretty hit and miss as it is.

He was telling the truth about her, however harsh.

He's about as funny as throat cancer, so no great loss.

Harsh but true