Vernon Kay Could Take Over Radio One Breakfast - Page 3 - Radio

JB1601 · 06-11-2009, 14:11

Let's not forget Mills was a pretty bog-standard link-song-link-song-song-link style DJ until about 2003 when he upped his game, and got the afternoon job. You can hear a lot of the same potential in Greg James.

The genius of swooping on him while he was still on student radio is they get someone who can genuinely identify with much of the target audience, plus hasn't had to spend much of his working life doing top-ten-at-ten and the whole ILR crap before being expected to adapt to Radio 1 (JK and Joel, I'm looking at you). I expect his salary expectations were a tad lower than an ILR jock too!

FWIW - and I know we're all speculating - I don't think R1 can afford to put Mills on breakfast given he's an identical age to Moyles (and his show is also sounding a bit tired IMHO), and all eyes will be on refreshing R1 for a younger audience with the new government coming in. Vernon Kay is also the wrong side of 30 so unlikely, especially given he'd have to pretty much abandon much of his TV career. I'd put my money either on Greg after a few years of developing, or someone new entirely - which is precisely what they did with Chris Evans and Zoe Ball, and Sara Cox had only been there a few months when she got the gig.

The big mystery to me in the new lineup is Dev. Nothing against the guy personally, and he seems to have been on 1Xtra for years, but how on earth he got a five times a week gig and depping ond drivetime when he's so BORING is beyond me! What an awful show...

Mapperley Ridge · 06-11-2009, 16:30

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Originally Posted by johnny radish

Oh dear, again you miss the point my dear friend . I can't see you made one either.

I'm not saying Chris isn't a brilliant broadcaster, but he's coming to the end of the road on that show, his points of reference aren't relevant , 80s and 90s TV themes and naming a baby ain't doing nothing to reduce the average age of the radio 1 listener (the average age is 30).

As for Aled , name one other personality trait that an average Moyles listener would be able to tell you about him.
Aled is there because he's a camp gay(he may be a talented camp gay), nothing wrong with that but don't dress it up.

The problem is, there is no one good enough to replace Chris Moyles. I heard Scott Mills last night, the Radio 4 woman again, then what's occurring ...yawn ! I almost expected flirt divert to be back on, talk about flogging a dead horse!

Yes I agree - Radio 1 do need to do something to reduce the average age of the breakfast audience - which is possibly one reason why they only extended Moyles contract by a year. A good move, as I said at the time in another thread.

Having said that, 80s and 90s retro themes etc often gain cult status among younger audiences, as I'm sure audience research in the younegr end of the dmeographic would reveal. Sure, it's not for everyone - but it works for many.

My point about Aled is if you wnat to label him as "token comedy gay" that's you're opinion, albeit deeply flawed and more than a tad offensive to the guy.

johnny radish · 06-11-2009, 17:57

It's not deeply flawed is it ? It's exactly the same as John Inman on Are You Being Served ? "you play the part of a flamboyant homosexual" It's actually a lot more offensive that we have to hear this outdated stereotype being portrayed.

abertom · 06-11-2009, 18:02

Aled's posted on unofficial Mills that an announcements being made on Monday BUT........

he also added that NO-ONES LEAVING

Mapperley Ridge · 07-11-2009, 18:44

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Originally Posted by johnny radish

It's not deeply flawed is it ? It's exactly the same as John Inman on Are You Being Served ? "you play the part of a flamboyant homosexual" It's actually a lot more offensive that we have to hear this outdated stereotype being portrayed.

Er, no it isn't. It's very different. I doubt that Aled would play up to anything he's not comfortable with. Trust me on that one.

tv hurts my eye · 07-11-2009, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bradshaw

I wouldn't be surprised to see Fearne Cotton......as the successor.

Fearne Cotton?... They'd get better ratings with Dot Cotton

Marcus Bradshaw · 08-11-2009, 07:55

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Originally Posted by tv hurts my eye

Fearne Cotton?... They'd get better ratings with Dot Cotton

Agreed, I'd listen to that.

I don't think R1 are overly bothered by ratings, hence the decision to put FC on mid-mornings. She sounds 'young' - and that seems to tick a lot of boxes at Yalding House at the mo.

Murray Mint · 08-11-2009, 13:45

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Originally Posted by abertom

Aled's posted on unofficial Mills that an announcements being made on Monday BUT........

he also added that NO-ONES LEAVING

An announcement? Could Chris Moyles be moving to a new slot? Saturday and Sunday, 10.00am to 1.00pm?

Jmoo · 08-11-2009, 14:14

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Originally Posted by Murray Mint

An announcement? Could Chris Moyles be moving to a new slot? Saturday and Sunday, 10.00am to 1.00pm?

Don't think so. He's said Chris isn't going anywhere right now.

http://www.unofficialmills.co.uk/com...3320&page=4#35

scott james · 08-11-2009, 21:44

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Originally Posted by Mapperley Ridge

Er, no it isn't. It's very different. I doubt that Aled would play up to anything he's not comfortable with. Trust me on that one.

I didnt realise Aled was gay ! really, he kept that quiet. He's done a lot for the cause too, if jo publics view of a gay man was someone who screams a lot and acts like a girl, then Aled really is knocking that stereotype for six! Well done mate!

All of Chris's team are well past it now, Chris is the only talent on there, get back to basics fat lad!

abertom · 09-11-2009, 09:29

Daily Mail tripe as usual - theres a comic relief follow up film in Uganda so he's going end of November. Vernons covering for a week and Sara Cox is covering for Fearn

Murray Mint · 09-11-2009, 19:01

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Originally Posted by abertom

Daily Mail tripe as usual - theres a comic relief follow up film in Uganda so he's going end of November. Vernons covering for a week and Sara Cox is covering for Fearn

I would like to know where the Daily Mail gets its information from!

Nick_Cardiff · 12-11-2009, 11:43

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Originally Posted by Murray Mint

I would like to know where the Daily Mail gets its information from!

i think the word 'Information' is a little strong- innuendo, gossip, slur, bilge, opinion, or even preceded by 'lack of...' maybe better.

oooh, i hate that shite and bile filled rag.

Martin_S · 12-11-2009, 21:07

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Originally Posted by johnny radish

Moyles should have kept his team fresh, instead of the same people over the last 6 years. The'yre even more middle aged than him, talking about marriage, divorces kids etc.

He should go soon, but the delay is no one can replace him, end of. Vernon Kay is not in the same league at all.

I can't see him on Radio 2 , he'll surely go to Capital or Absolute first as suggested.

Vernon is too old. Moyles should go onto a talk station. I mean thats all he does is talk and play the occaisonal record. He is so obsessed with talking crap all morning that he doesn't even go to the half past the hour news until about 40-45 mins to the hour.

Yes 5live is perfect for him just the sound of his voice and no records to get in the way of his talk show.

Martin_S · 12-11-2009, 21:10

delete please - duplicate post.

Martin_S · 12-11-2009, 21:10

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Originally Posted by scott james

I didnt realise Aled was gay ! really, he kept that quiet. He's done a lot for the cause too, if jo publics view of a gay man was someone who screams a lot and acts like a girl, then Aled really is knocking that stereotype for six! Well done mate!

Are you being serious?

Murray Mint · 12-11-2009, 21:13

If Vernon Kay is too old to succeed Chris Moyles, who do you think should replace?

Martin_S · 12-11-2009, 21:23

Well that is a hard question I have to be honest. There is not much talent out there thanks to the destruction of local radio. Where do they recruit from? Who has been grounded well in radio and young enough for Radio 1? Any Capital jocks worth poaching ?

Murray Mint · 12-11-2009, 21:27

Zane Lowe? I believe he has sat in for Moyles before.

Martin_S · 13-11-2009, 01:17

Can't imagine Zane wanting to do daytime. He likes specialist. Plus again, he is too old for a new breakfast jock on the young Radio 1.

occy · 13-11-2009, 09:34

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Originally Posted by Murray Mint

I would like to know where the Daily Mail gets its information from!

I think they get information from internet forums, then build a story from that.

Miles Platting · 13-11-2009, 10:16

We'll be having Breakfast Idol next!?!

dpb · 13-11-2009, 10:20

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Originally Posted by occy

I think they get information from internet forums, then build a story from that.

Ironic considering you started the thread!!

06-11-2009, 14:11	#51
JB1601 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 102	Let's not forget Mills was a pretty bog-standard link-song-link-song-song-link style DJ until about 2003 when he upped his game, and got the afternoon job. You can hear a lot of the same potential in Greg James. The genius of swooping on him while he was still on student radio is they get someone who can genuinely identify with much of the target audience, plus hasn't had to spend much of his working life doing top-ten-at-ten and the whole ILR crap before being expected to adapt to Radio 1 (JK and Joel, I'm looking at you). I expect his salary expectations were a tad lower than an ILR jock too! FWIW - and I know we're all speculating - I don't think R1 can afford to put Mills on breakfast given he's an identical age to Moyles (and his show is also sounding a bit tired IMHO), and all eyes will be on refreshing R1 for a younger audience with the new government coming in. Vernon Kay is also the wrong side of 30 so unlikely, especially given he'd have to pretty much abandon much of his TV career. I'd put my money either on Greg after a few years of developing, or someone new entirely - which is precisely what they did with Chris Evans and Zoe Ball, and Sara Cox had only been there a few months when she got the gig. The big mystery to me in the new lineup is Dev. Nothing against the guy personally, and he seems to have been on 1Xtra for years, but how on earth he got a five times a week gig and depping ond drivetime when he's so BORING is beyond me! What an awful show...

06-11-2009, 17:57	#53
johnny radish Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 58	It's not deeply flawed is it ? It's exactly the same as John Inman on Are You Being Served ? "you play the part of a flamboyant homosexual" It's actually a lot more offensive that we have to hear this outdated stereotype being portrayed.

06-11-2009, 18:02	#54
abertom Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 42	Aled's posted on unofficial Mills that an announcements being made on Monday BUT........ he also added that NO-ONES LEAVING

09-11-2009, 09:29	#61
abertom Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 42	Daily Mail tripe as usual - theres a comic relief follow up film in Uganda so he's going end of November. Vernons covering for a week and Sara Cox is covering for Fearn

12-11-2009, 21:10	#65
Martin_S Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,096	delete please - duplicate post.

12-11-2009, 21:13	#67
Murray Mint Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Gender: Male Location: Thames Estuary Services: Sky+, BT Broadband (Home Hub) Posts: 2,230	If Vernon Kay is too old to succeed Chris Moyles, who do you think should replace?

12-11-2009, 21:23	#68
Martin_S Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,096	Well that is a hard question I have to be honest. There is not much talent out there thanks to the destruction of local radio. Where do they recruit from? Who has been grounded well in radio and young enough for Radio 1? Any Capital jocks worth poaching ?

12-11-2009, 21:27	#69
Murray Mint Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Gender: Male Location: Thames Estuary Services: Sky+, BT Broadband (Home Hub) Posts: 2,230	Zane Lowe? I believe he has sat in for Moyles before.

13-11-2009, 01:17	#70
Martin_S Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,096	Can't imagine Zane wanting to do daytime. He likes specialist. Plus again, he is too old for a new breakfast jock on the young Radio 1.

13-11-2009, 10:16	#72
Miles Platting Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wigan Posts: 751	We'll be having Breakfast Idol next!?!