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whedon247 · 24-11-2009, 13:30

a good episode, i know some DS'ers expect supernatural to be like 24 and non stop arc but having a mix of standalones and arc makes me appreicate these types of episodes more

sad to see ellen and her daughter die, but they went out swinging!

im guessing death is gonna be 1 hot momma from lucifers reaction!

NinjyBear · 24-11-2009, 14:09

Sigh

Nobody wants/expects Supernatural to be 'non-stop arc' in the way you mean, the problems a few of us have is the *timing* of the comedy episodes. I don't know how many times that has to be said before the rest of you understand that?

discodolly25 · 24-11-2009, 14:13

i quite like the way the story is going at the moment. tbh if it was totally focused on the apocalypse it would get quite boring and too heavy, but when we have some comedy stuff through it, it still shows that even tho the apocalypse is here they still have other stuff to do and the shows meant to be fun & dark cos if it wasnt, frankly imho, not too many people would watch it

Alien28 · 24-11-2009, 15:34

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Originally Posted by NinjyBear

I've never really considered what it would be like to shoot Lucifer in the head, but even the most Dean-like person wouldn't want to hang around. You'd pretty much just pull the trigger and run away....(and if you couldn't run away, pretend it was a faulty trigger)

I thought it was a brilliant episode. It must have been - I didn't even notice the goof with the Hell-hounds/salt! I always liked Jo and Ellen, so it was very sad to see them go. We don't really have a lot of recurring hunters for them to kill off, so it was kinda obvious these 2 would die at some point. Not quite sure why they took that picture only to burn it, it's not as if they weren't all expecting to die.

Mark Pellegrino is doing a brilliant job. I hope we see much more of him in the second half of the season.

I did think that the time, "why are they salting? that doesn't work!". But later Meg says to Lucifer that she had them "pinned down" so perhaps that was the general idea, kinda to keep them out the way whilst Lucifer did his ritual thing!

Thinking back, was it ever finally explained how Sam & Dean go in the plane in the season opener, or how Cas came back? I know they suggested God at the time, but was it implied one way or another?

discodolly25 · 24-11-2009, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Alien28

I did think that the time, "why are they salting? that doesn't work!". But later Meg says to Lucifer that she had them "pinned down" so perhaps that was the general idea, kinda to keep them out the way whilst Lucifer did his ritual thing!

Thinking back, was it ever finally explained how Sam & Dean go in the plane in the season opener, or how Cas came back? I know they suggested God at the time, but was it implied one way or another?

wasnt it Cas who put them on the plane? not too sure who brought cas back tbh

oh well i'll need to watch them all again to find out

AliU2maniac · 24-11-2009, 16:54

Discodolly 25, you're so right

I've enjoyed the episodes from season 5 so far and I didn't have any complaints against the timing of the 'comedy' episodes because, with Supernatural, there is always potential for something deeper and I wasn't disappointed.The writers could have had everybody depressed with non-stop woe-is-me episodes but, thankfully, they did something a little diffferent than the norm and isn't that why the majority of fans love Supernatural?

We all understand your complaints, NinjyBear, as you've repeated them often, but they are your complaints.We don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with us.As my Gran once said--People are starving in other parts of the world so just take it easy. I'm sure the writers have plenty of apocalyptic angst waiting for us in January

NinjyBear · 24-11-2009, 18:50

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We all understand your complaints, NinjyBear, as you've repeated them often, but they are your complaints.We don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with us.

Just to clarify, you do see the irony in that comment coming from you, right? I only ever make the point to counter the arrogance from people who refuse to accept opposing opinions. There's no need for all the condescending sniping, and right now it's coming from the 'pro-lots of comedy' camp. (Not all of you, just a couple)

There is a difference between criticising the pace of a show and criticising the quality of a show. With the exception of ep9 this season's episodes have been brilliant, but Kripke has stated several times before that he started with a 5 year plan, and there are plenty of us who want him to stick with it which means this season has to be arc-heavy to reach a satisfying conclusion. 1 future episode, 3 comedy episodes, and 2 comedy-arc episodes out of the first 10 is a bit of a kick for those of us hoping the show doesn't drag on longer than it has to. Many brilliant shows have made that mistake before, I don't want Supernatural to go the same way.

discodolly25 · 24-11-2009, 19:16

why dont we all wait n see whats gonna happen in the next few episodes? for all we know it could be a fast-forward to detroit (was it detroit the devil says? i cant remember now

) 6 months later. im sure kripke knows what he's doing he's been doing it for 5 seasons already!!!

we all have different reasons for liking the series, some like the brotherly drama, some like the comedy aspects but at the end of the day we all want the same thing, to find out what happens next!! for all we know kripke n co may have had to "pad out" the season and he has done with great comedic effect. think about it folks, in the past hasnt he always pulled it off for the season finale??

from what ive noticed from other series like buffy angel charmed etc is that they usually have individual episodes at first then as the seasons go on, the storyline goes on for longer and longer til a whole season is filled but, to my knowledge anyway, these shows in the later seasons may be mid story but they still put the odd one or two single episodes in there thats shoots off from the main storyline (does that make sense??)

NinjyBear · 24-11-2009, 20:00

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Originally Posted by discodolly25

we all have different reasons for liking the series, some like the brotherly drama, some like the comedy aspects but at the end of the day we all want the same thing, to find out what happens next!! for all we know kripke n co may have had to "pad out" the season and he has done with great comedic effect. think about it folks, in the past hasnt he always pulled it off for the season finale??

from what ive noticed from other series like buffy angel charmed etc is that they usually have individual episodes at first then as the seasons go on, the storyline goes on for longer and longer til a whole season is filled but, to my knowledge anyway, these shows in the later seasons may be mid story but they still put the odd one or two single episodes in there thats shoots off from the main storyline (does that make sense??)

Padding is fine, it's expected over 22 episodes, but it's better done with the odd episode here and there. At the moment the arc is padding the fillers.
Take out episode 5 and 9, episode 8 is Abandon all Hope. The hunters failed to kill Lucifer, they don't know what to do next. While they are trying to work out what to do next they decide to work a case, which leads to Fallen Idols. The problem there is that you don't go into the hiatus with a "

" face, but at least the season is better paced. Anyone who is watching now will still be there when it comes back.

There's still so much that needs/asking/answering, I'd rather get some of that out the way now instead of trying to cram it in to the last 12 episodes.

discodolly25 · 24-11-2009, 21:34

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Originally Posted by NinjyBear

Padding is fine, it's expected over 22 episodes, but it's better done with the odd episode here and there. At the moment the arc is padding the fillers.
Take out episode 5 and 9, episode 8 is Abandon all Hope. The hunters failed to kill Lucifer, they don't know what to do next. While they are trying to work out what to do next they decide to work a case, which leads to Fallen Idols. The problem there is that you don't go into the hiatus with a "

" face, but at least the season is better paced. Anyone who is watching now will still be there when it comes back.

There's still so much that needs/asking/answering, I'd rather get some of that out the way now instead of trying to cram it in to the last 12 episodes.

i dont blame you i hate waiting as well but as i said before he knows what he's doing he's done it for 5 seasons already

lets see what happens on thursday shall we?

NinjyBear · 24-11-2009, 22:09

Nothing....it's gone off for 2 months

AliU2maniac · 25-11-2009, 06:08

NinjiBear, the season does not have to be arc heavy to have a satisfying conclusion.An arc heavy season may turn people off. Sera Gamble has outlined a few of the upcoming episodes and I'm sure that Eric Kripke knows what he's doing.He's done a good job so far.

Also, we're not all 'pro-comedy' as you say.I enjoyed those episodes as much as the dramatic ones and I'm sure many fans feel the same way.

Here's an interesting article about the CW.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ed-mar..._b_369480.html

discodolly25 · 25-11-2009, 12:00

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Nothing....it's gone off for 2 months

ru sure? the next episode is listed in the imdb for the 26th (tomorrow)

PR0J3CT · 25-11-2009, 12:51

^^ Lies. Next episode has a date, but I can't remember exactly when. The second or third Thursday of January.

ETA: To clarify, IMDB are lying, not you. You're the best!

whedon247 · 25-11-2009, 13:35

anywayyyy to get off the whole pro/anti comedy stuff

who else thinks death is gonna be a sexy women?

the cross roads demon and also the "nice" demon that dean still ende dup killing from season 2 were the hottest in supernatural hsitory, theyll take some beating!

AliU2maniac · 25-11-2009, 16:20

Episode 5.11, 'Sam Interrupted', will be shown on the CW on Jan 21st.It looks fantastic

I also have a feeling that 'Death' will be a woman.The way Lucifer greeted 'Death' had me thinking that right away, though we could all be wrong

kate_fkn_does · 27-11-2009, 00:50

Was it WAR we met earlier in the season? He was such a disappointment to be honest. They figured out how to destroy him far too quickly. But that said it was a pretty good episode over all.

I just want Michael to hurry his ass up now.

NinjyBear · 27-11-2009, 01:54

Yeh, it was War. I'd assume the other 2 will also show up at some point.

leithlad · 27-11-2009, 09:42

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Originally Posted by AliU2maniac

Episode 5.11, 'Sam Interrupted', will be shown on the CW on Jan 21st.It looks fantastic

I also have a feeling that 'Death' will be a woman.The way Lucifer greeted 'Death' had me thinking that right away, though we could all be wrong

Pretty sure Supernatural resumes on the 14th Jan on the CW.

servelan · 27-11-2009, 10:48

I'm pretty sure Plague, Pestilence and Famine will appear at some point. Just a guess. I'd like Famine to be a super skiiny female (not hard to cast in Hlooywood, mieuw) as per the Terry Pratchett 'Good Omens'.

I love the idea of War being a hot female. A symbol of being faught over?

discodolly25 · 27-11-2009, 11:08

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Originally Posted by servelan

I'm pretty sure Plague, Pestilence and Famine will appear at some point. Just a guess. I'd like Famine to be a super skiiny female (not hard to cast in Hlooywood, mieuw) as per the Terry Pratchett 'Good Omens'.

I love the idea of War being a hot female. A symbol of being faught over?

war's already been n gone its death we were wondering about being a woman

KILTIEBUM · 27-11-2009, 12:18

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Pretty sure Supernatural resumes on the 14th Jan on the CW.

I'm sure it's the 21st.

Still mayb Living will be showing the S5 pilot by then.

AliU2maniac · 27-11-2009, 19:02

At the end of the preview for episode 5.11 the caption said that the show returns on Jan. 21st, which fooled a lot of media people who had been given the 14th as the date when season 5 resumed.I'm hoping that the 21st was just a mistake.

I don't think Sam & Dean destroyed Death as he vanished far too easily.

I think Famine may appear for the planned Valentine's Day episode.

ItHasPotential · 27-11-2009, 19:09

so episode 11 is next year? that explains why i can't find it.

24-11-2009, 13:30	#351
whedon247 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,833	a good episode, i know some DS'ers expect supernatural to be like 24 and non stop arc but having a mix of standalones and arc makes me appreicate these types of episodes more sad to see ellen and her daughter die, but they went out swinging! im guessing death is gonna be 1 hot momma from lucifers reaction!

24-11-2009, 14:09	#352
NinjyBear Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 294	Sigh Nobody wants/expects Supernatural to be 'non-stop arc' in the way you mean, the problems a few of us have is the timing of the comedy episodes. I don't know how many times that has to be said before the rest of you understand that?

24-11-2009, 14:13	#353
discodolly25 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Airdrie, North Lanarkshire Posts: 648	i quite like the way the story is going at the moment. tbh if it was totally focused on the apocalypse it would get quite boring and too heavy, but when we have some comedy stuff through it, it still shows that even tho the apocalypse is here they still have other stuff to do and the shows meant to be fun & dark cos if it wasnt, frankly imho, not too many people would watch it

24-11-2009, 16:54	#356
AliU2maniac Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 298	Discodolly 25, you're so right I've enjoyed the episodes from season 5 so far and I didn't have any complaints against the timing of the 'comedy' episodes because, with Supernatural, there is always potential for something deeper and I wasn't disappointed.The writers could have had everybody depressed with non-stop woe-is-me episodes but, thankfully, they did something a little diffferent than the norm and isn't that why the majority of fans love Supernatural? We all understand your complaints, NinjyBear, as you've repeated them often, but they are your complaints.We don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with us.As my Gran once said--People are starving in other parts of the world so just take it easy. I'm sure the writers have plenty of apocalyptic angst waiting for us in January

24-11-2009, 19:16	#358
discodolly25 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Airdrie, North Lanarkshire Posts: 648	why dont we all wait n see whats gonna happen in the next few episodes? for all we know it could be a fast-forward to detroit (was it detroit the devil says? i cant remember now ) 6 months later. im sure kripke knows what he's doing he's been doing it for 5 seasons already!!! we all have different reasons for liking the series, some like the brotherly drama, some like the comedy aspects but at the end of the day we all want the same thing, to find out what happens next!! for all we know kripke n co may have had to "pad out" the season and he has done with great comedic effect. think about it folks, in the past hasnt he always pulled it off for the season finale?? from what ive noticed from other series like buffy angel charmed etc is that they usually have individual episodes at first then as the seasons go on, the storyline goes on for longer and longer til a whole season is filled but, to my knowledge anyway, these shows in the later seasons may be mid story but they still put the odd one or two single episodes in there thats shoots off from the main storyline (does that make sense??)

24-11-2009, 22:09	#361
NinjyBear Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 294	Nothing....it's gone off for 2 months

25-11-2009, 06:08	#362
AliU2maniac Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 298	NinjiBear, the season does not have to be arc heavy to have a satisfying conclusion.An arc heavy season may turn people off. Sera Gamble has outlined a few of the upcoming episodes and I'm sure that Eric Kripke knows what he's doing.He's done a good job so far. Also, we're not all 'pro-comedy' as you say.I enjoyed those episodes as much as the dramatic ones and I'm sure many fans feel the same way. Here's an interesting article about the CW. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ed-mar..._b_369480.html

25-11-2009, 12:51	#364
PR0J3CT Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: London Services: Sky +, Bt Total Broadband Posts: 560	^^ Lies. Next episode has a date, but I can't remember exactly when. The second or third Thursday of January. ETA: To clarify, IMDB are lying, not you. You're the best!

25-11-2009, 13:35	#365
whedon247 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,833	anywayyyy to get off the whole pro/anti comedy stuff who else thinks death is gonna be a sexy women? the cross roads demon and also the "nice" demon that dean still ende dup killing from season 2 were the hottest in supernatural hsitory, theyll take some beating!

25-11-2009, 16:20	#366
AliU2maniac Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 298	Episode 5.11, 'Sam Interrupted', will be shown on the CW on Jan 21st.It looks fantastic I also have a feeling that 'Death' will be a woman.The way Lucifer greeted 'Death' had me thinking that right away, though we could all be wrong

27-11-2009, 00:50	#367
kate_fkn_does Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 638	Was it WAR we met earlier in the season? He was such a disappointment to be honest. They figured out how to destroy him far too quickly. But that said it was a pretty good episode over all. I just want Michael to hurry his ass up now.

27-11-2009, 01:54	#368
NinjyBear Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Gender: Male Posts: 294	Yeh, it was War. I'd assume the other 2 will also show up at some point.

27-11-2009, 10:48	#370
servelan Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 47	I'm pretty sure Plague, Pestilence and Famine will appear at some point. Just a guess. I'd like Famine to be a super skiiny female (not hard to cast in Hlooywood, mieuw) as per the Terry Pratchett 'Good Omens'. I love the idea of War being a hot female. A symbol of being faught over?

27-11-2009, 19:02	#373
AliU2maniac Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 298	At the end of the preview for episode 5.11 the caption said that the show returns on Jan. 21st, which fooled a lot of media people who had been given the 14th as the date when season 5 resumed.I'm hoping that the 21st was just a mistake. I don't think Sam & Dean destroyed Death as he vanished far too easily. I think Famine may appear for the planned Valentine's Day episode.

27-11-2009, 19:09	#374
ItHasPotential Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Services: why don't you take that keyboard of yours and shove it up yer arse Posts: 1,474	so episode 11 is next year? that explains why i can't find it.