Another classic butchered? - Music

dslrocks · 24-05-2005, 00:05

Couldn't help but notice another 'rapper' had taken a classic song done by some 80s pop act Spandau Ballet and butchered it by rapping over it.

I hope this is not another one of these 'genres' we've been having recently, like the dance songs where they take a sample from some obscure 80s track and loop it over and over again to a dancey beat (a. la Uniting Nations and Eric Prydz).

Clip here.

G4 covered Bohemian Rhaposody? Twista 'rapped' over Bill Withers' Lovely Day?

Is nothing sacred any more?

24-05-2005, 00:36

lol, that is a truly awful concoction....

. I suppose it's the same old thing....it's OK if they work (but usually they don't).

Did anyone else see G4 on CD:UK at the weekend singing "I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo...." with a smirk on their face in front of a bunch of 13 year old girls?.....the whole world's gone mad hasn't it?

.

irs.uk · 24-05-2005, 01:02

This is horrific... but if it's a trend it's not a new one - many artists, especially rap and R&B, have been 'borrowing' looped sequences as backing for as long as I can remember. Which isn't that long, really. Oasis's 'Hello' is a fine non-'urban' example.

Few are as bad as this, though (the rapper in question seems to have omitted to have any words in the chorus, quite a major failing).

Carmen Queasy · 24-05-2005, 02:13

ANNOYING!

People are going to buy it because it'll be 'cool' and 'ghetto'. SHUT UP!

The world has gone mad! It's mental, but what can we do? Lets plan to kill Simon Cowell (I blame him for ANY bad music

)

24-05-2005, 05:18

I don't think you can blame SC for rap and RnB.

Channel Hopper · 24-05-2005, 07:39

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Originally Posted by dslrocks

Couldn't help but notice another 'rapper' had taken a classic song done by some 80s pop act Spandau Ballet and butchered it by rapping over it.
Clip here.

I suppose we should be grateful that G4 didnt cover it.

Nylex · 24-05-2005, 07:41

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Originally Posted by dslrocks

wista 'rapped' over Bill Withers' Lovely Day?

Sunshine is a great song, IMO.

Caxton · 24-05-2005, 07:55

Rapping can hardly be classed as music

Ratinho · 24-05-2005, 08:08

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Originally Posted by delgado

Did anyone else see G4 on CD:UK at the weekend singing "I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo...." with a smirk on their face in front of a bunch of 13 year old girls?.....the whole world's gone mad hasn't it?

.

That G4 thing has irked me since they were doing this on X-Factor. Trilling out songs like Creep, with absolutely no context or emotion is embarassing. They go on about how they are classically trained opera singers, so let me think, what kind of music would suit them?

And Ste.

VinnieMole · 24-05-2005, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Ratinho

That G4 thing has irked me since they were doing this on X-Factor. Trilling out songs like Creep, with absolutely no context or emotion is embarassing. They go on about how they are classically trained opera singers, so let me think, what kind of music would suit them?

And Ste.

As it's the 25th anniversary of the death of Ian Curtis I would quite like to hear G4 record a Joy Division tribute album, that'd be really good....

CovertFoofle · 24-05-2005, 09:30

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Originally Posted by Caxton

Rapping can hardly be classed as music

I don't know, proper rap can be. The only difference is eople speak instead of sing, and if it's done well, then it can be brilliant. It's just what we hear on the radio isn't proper rap. It's diluted, shameful, and commercial nonsense. I hate to say it, but the only decent rapper at the moment (IMO) is Eminem - he's more like rap was. Think NWA, Cypress Hill, Run DMC (before Jason Nevins

)

24-05-2005, 10:24

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Originally Posted by CovertFoofle

.....I hate to say it, but the only decent rapper at the moment (IMO) is Eminem - he's more like rap was. Think NWA, Cypress Hill, Run DMC (before Jason Nevins

)

Eminem is bearable (usually) but I much prefer rappers like Roots Manuva and Saul Williams.....of course they won't be that successful because they aim for adults rather than teenagers......

[MaRt] · 24-05-2005, 10:46

That song is so awful, I think I could cry. Since I'm in the mood to rant, here's what I hate about the majority of hip-hop:

[1] Dodgy sampling (i.e. Akon - Lonely), or sampling of classic tracks which just doesn't work, as witnessed here.

[2] The whole 'bling' thing. It doesn't determine how cool you are, rather it just highlights how you're in it for the money.

[3] A lot of rappers come across as being completely obnoxious, egocentric and pompous characters. Most of the time there's little or no real talent to agree with such over-confidence.

[4] General laziness. Laziness when it comes to production - songs clearly stealing from others (like Ciara's Goodies steals elements of Usher's Yeah), and loops which sound like they could have been made in a few minutes - then laziness when it comes to the rapping, i.e. 50 Cent. Put some effort into it, man!

But each to their own, as they say, so don't be offended if you actually like commercial hip-hop. You're just listening to one of the lowest forms of music there is!

MrKev · 24-05-2005, 13:42

Its not even like its original for a rapper to use the riff from 'true' either.

Back in 1991 PM Dawn had a top 3 hit with Set Adrift On Memory Bliss with him rapping over the riff. It was actually a damn sight better that this recent rubbish too.

Peej Kerton · 24-05-2005, 13:57

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Originally Posted by delgado

Eminem is bearable (usually) but I much prefer rappers like Roots Manuva and Saul Williams.....of course they won't be that successful because they aim for adults rather than teenagers......

Bravo... Two excellent, adult rappers.
Not kiddy pop pap rappers like The Game, 50 Cent, Eminem et al.

Peej Kerton · 24-05-2005, 14:01

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Originally Posted by [MaRt]

[1] Dodgy sampling (i.e. Akon - Lonely), or sampling of classic tracks which just doesn't work, as witnessed here.

He can't rap. He's another Shaggy as far as I'm concerned.

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[3] A lot of rappers come across as being completely obnoxious, egocentric and pompous characters. Most of the time there's little or no real talent to agree with such over-confidence.

Thats "street".
Actually, its just ego getting in the way.... All bands end up doing it unless they're is a scraping of human in them.

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[4] General laziness. Laziness when it comes to production - songs clearly stealing from others (like Ciara's Goodies steals elements of Usher's Yeah), and loops which sound like they could have been made in a few minutes - then laziness when it comes to the rapping, i.e. 50 Cent. Put some effort into it, man!

But each to their own, as they say, so don't be offended if you actually like commercial hip-hop. You're just listening to one of the lowest forms of music there is!

50 Cent is a mumbling ****wit, with no talent.
Ciara's Goodies was produced by the same people as Usher's Yeah... but it still shows complete and utter lazy contempt for people.. Then again, the people buy it in their droves, so it shows what contempt they have for themselves.

satanicseranade · 24-05-2005, 14:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by dslrocks

Couldn't help but notice another 'rapper' had taken a classic song done by some 80s pop act Spandau Ballet and butchered it by rapping over it.

I hope this is not another one of these 'genres' we've been having recently, like the dance songs where they take a sample from some obscure 80s track and loop it over and over again to a dancey beat (a. la Uniting Nations and Eric Prydz).

Clip here.

G4 covered Bohemian Rhaposody? Twista 'rapped' over Bill Withers' Lovely Day?

Is nothing sacred any more?

weird thing is that the same song had been sampled before by pm dawn- set adrift on memory bliss. so this rap guy is hardly original with his sample...

rossm2003 · 24-05-2005, 16:12

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Originally Posted by Caxton

Rapping can hardly be classed as music

Yes it can.

rossm2003 · 24-05-2005, 16:12

And the rapper is not 'rap guy' its NELLY.

Ash_735 · 24-05-2005, 18:07

When will we see the likes of Rap from the 90's again??, thats when it was at its best, IMO its all gone commercial, and a craze since 2001!

Stagger Lee · 24-05-2005, 19:31

In the car the other day I heard a dance version of Song to The Siren by This Mortal Coil.

I wept.

Channel Hopper · 25-05-2005, 00:19

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Originally Posted by VinnieMole

As it's the 25th anniversary of the death of Ian Curtis I would quite like to hear G4 record a Joy Division tribute album, that'd be really good....

You may have something there, They may actually be on par with Curtis (RIP) as his output in life was somewhat tone deaf . But then they may also work better than 50 Cent on a wap twack or two.

Mark. · 25-05-2005, 00:40

That is seriously AWFUL!

ALMOST (but not quite) up there with the frog

D Sizzle · 25-05-2005, 18:22

I'm telling you people, th eonly decent rapper is Sage Francis, although I hate the medium, at least he has something interesting to say that isn't clouded with misogyny, bitches and hoes, or absolute rubbish about how much you hate your wife and mother.

Ash_735 · 25-05-2005, 18:37

I wanna see another Busta Rhymes album, the last one was out in 2003, and we havent had any new songs off him since

All of his albums had great tracks on em.

24-05-2005, 00:05	#1
dslrocks Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SW Londinium Services: Crappy digital tv, Pipex 1Mbit ADSL, FM Radio Posts: 6,360	Another classic butchered? Couldn't help but notice another 'rapper' had taken a classic song done by some 80s pop act Spandau Ballet and butchered it by rapping over it. I hope this is not another one of these 'genres' we've been having recently, like the dance songs where they take a sample from some obscure 80s track and loop it over and over again to a dancey beat (a. la Uniting Nations and Eric Prydz). Clip here. G4 covered Bohemian Rhaposody? Twista 'rapped' over Bill Withers' Lovely Day? Is nothing sacred any more?

24-05-2005, 00:36	#2
delgado Posts: n/a	lol, that is a truly awful concoction..... I suppose it's the same old thing....it's OK if they work (but usually they don't). Did anyone else see G4 on CD:UK at the weekend singing "I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo...." with a smirk on their face in front of a bunch of 13 year old girls?.....the whole world's gone mad hasn't it? .

24-05-2005, 01:02	#3
irs.uk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 505	This is horrific... but if it's a trend it's not a new one - many artists, especially rap and R&B, have been 'borrowing' looped sequences as backing for as long as I can remember. Which isn't that long, really. Oasis's 'Hello' is a fine non-'urban' example. Few are as bad as this, though (the rapper in question seems to have omitted to have any words in the chorus, quite a major failing).

24-05-2005, 02:13	#4
Carmen Queasy Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Gender: Male Location: Manchester Services: Sky+. Sky Broadband. XBox 360. Posts: 23,650 Blog Entries: 1	ANNOYING! People are going to buy it because it'll be 'cool' and 'ghetto'. SHUT UP! The world has gone mad! It's mental, but what can we do? Lets plan to kill Simon Cowell (I blame him for ANY bad music )

24-05-2005, 05:18	#5
June Posts: n/a	I don't think you can blame SC for rap and RnB.

24-05-2005, 07:55	#8
Caxton Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: ♂ Services: Sky+ and 2mb Broadband. Digital Terrestrial Posts: 12,496	Rapping can hardly be classed as music

24-05-2005, 10:46	#13
[MaRt] Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Newbury, Berkshire Services: Sky+ \| Pipex \| PS3 PSN: mart_likes_fluke Posts: 892	That song is so awful, I think I could cry. Since I'm in the mood to rant, here's what I hate about the majority of hip-hop: [1] Dodgy sampling (i.e. Akon - Lonely), or sampling of classic tracks which just doesn't work, as witnessed here. [2] The whole 'bling' thing. It doesn't determine how cool you are, rather it just highlights how you're in it for the money. [3] A lot of rappers come across as being completely obnoxious, egocentric and pompous characters. Most of the time there's little or no real talent to agree with such over-confidence. [4] General laziness. Laziness when it comes to production - songs clearly stealing from others (like Ciara's Goodies steals elements of Usher's Yeah), and loops which sound like they could have been made in a few minutes - then laziness when it comes to the rapping, i.e. 50 Cent. Put some effort into it, man! But each to their own, as they say, so don't be offended if you actually like commercial hip-hop. You're just listening to one of the lowest forms of music there is!

24-05-2005, 13:42	#14
MrKev Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Durham Services: Sky+, Be* Unlimited, NDS, iPhone 2G, Epiphone Rivera Posts: 1,385	Its not even like its original for a rapper to use the riff from 'true' either. Back in 1991 PM Dawn had a top 3 hit with Set Adrift On Memory Bliss with him rapping over the riff. It was actually a damn sight better that this recent rubbish too.

24-05-2005, 16:12	#19
rossm2003 Banned User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: england Posts: 502	And the rapper is not 'rap guy' its NELLY.

24-05-2005, 18:07	#20
Ash_735 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Gender: Male Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 3,713	When will we see the likes of Rap from the 90's again??, thats when it was at its best, IMO its all gone commercial, and a craze since 2001!

24-05-2005, 19:31	#21
Stagger Lee Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Bucket of Blood Posts: 629	In the car the other day I heard a dance version of Song to The Siren by This Mortal Coil. I wept.

25-05-2005, 00:40	#23
Mark. Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Services: Sky: Sky+HD, Sky+, 4 mixes, Sports, Max BB, Talk; Freeview; iPhone Posts: 36,398 Blog Entries: 42	That is seriously AWFUL! ALMOST (but not quite) up there with the frog

25-05-2005, 18:22	#24
D Sizzle Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Services: Discreet and satisfying Posts: 1,938	I'm telling you people, th eonly decent rapper is Sage Francis, although I hate the medium, at least he has something interesting to say that isn't clouded with misogyny, bitches and hoes, or absolute rubbish about how much you hate your wife and mother.

25-05-2005, 18:37	#25
Ash_735 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Gender: Male Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 3,713	I wanna see another Busta Rhymes album, the last one was out in 2003, and we havent had any new songs off him since All of his albums had great tracks on em.