Has the Reichstag burned down? - General Discussion

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 12:34

Well you can forget about G8 summits and making poverty history. ID cards? Of course they could have prevented all this. How foolish the people who opposed them have proven to be. What's that you say, Mr Blair? You have seen secret intelligence which cannot be released proving that Iran and Syria planned and executed it? We must slaughter their civilians and take their oil ... err... for the benefit of their people ... who we love. A lot.

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We must compel the governments... to take action in the direction favored by our widely conceived plan, already approaching the desired consummation, by what we shall represent as public opinion, secretly promoted by us through the means of that so-called "Great Power" - the press, which, with a few exceptions that may be disregarded, is already entirely in our hands.

Ridicule and insult me as much as you like. While the thoughts of many turn to Islamic terrorists, my thoughts turn to Project Northwood and the current era of universal deceit. There are many who are cowards who cannot face the (in this instance what I suspect is the) truth, who are in fact so terrified of the truth that rather than face it they satisfy themselves that revenge is accomplished and justice is done by the mass slaughter of innocent Arabs/Muslims in foreign lands.

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.....In fear and trembling they will close their eyes to everything, and be content to await what will be the end of it all.

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There is another reason also why they will close their eyes: for we shall keep promising them to give back all the liberties we have taken away as soon as we have quelled the enemies of peace and tamed all parties ..... It is not worthwhile to say anything about how long a time they will be kept waiting for this return of their liberties.

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 12:35

I would like to state my sadness at the loss of life and suffering of the people involved in the bombings today.

Channel Hopper · 07-07-2005, 12:39

you appear to have terrible coffee where you live

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 12:40

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Originally Posted by Channel Hopper

you appear to have terrible coffee where you live

Brilliant post. Well done.

07-07-2005, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Beretta Man

Well you can forget about G8 summits and making poverty history. ID cards? Of course they could have prevented all this. How foolish the people who opposed them have proven to be. What's that you say, Mr Blair? You have seen secret intelligence which cannot be released proving that Iran and Syria planned and executed it? We must slaughter their civilians and take their oil ... err... for the benefit of their people ... who we love. A lot.

Ridicule and insult me as much as you like. While the thoughts of many turn to Islamic terrorists, my thoughts turn to Project Northwood and the current era of universal deceit. There are many who are cowards who cannot face the (in this instance what I suspect is the) truth, who are in fact so terrified of the truth that rather than face it they satisfy themselves that revenge is accomplished and justice is done by the mass slaughter of innocent Arabs/Muslims in foreign lands.

You are George Galloway and I claim my £5

DryHumper · 07-07-2005, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Beretta Man

Well you can forget about G8 summits and making poverty history. ID cards? Of course they could have prevented all this. How foolish the people who opposed them have proven to be.

As the Spanish had ID cards, and those never stopped the Madrid bombings, how foolish your assertion sounds.

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 12:46

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Originally Posted by DerekP

You are George Galloway and I claim my £5

No fiver for you.

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 12:50

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Originally Posted by DryHumper

As the Spanish has ID cards, and those never stopped the Madrid bombings, how foolish your assertion sounds.

My tongue in cheek assertion - which should be rather obvious to anyone reading my post.

DryHumper · 07-07-2005, 12:52

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Originally Posted by Beretta Man

My tongue in cheek assertion - which should be rather obvious to anyone reading my post.

I read the first two lines and didn't think there was much point reading the rest

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 12:55

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Originally Posted by DryHumper

I read the first two lines and didn't think there was much point reading the rest

It would appear the thread title went way over your head.

Sigurd · 07-07-2005, 13:02

Since you quote from it in your opening post, Beretta Man, I take it that you think The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is genuine rather than an anti-Semitic forgery? And are you suggesting that Tony Blair is part of a Jewish plot for world domination?

Channel Hopper · 07-07-2005, 13:09

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Originally Posted by Beretta Man

Brilliant post. Well done.

Thanks, not quite 72 years late. (unless you meant burned down again)

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 13:10

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

Since you quote from it in your opening post, Beretta Man, I take it that you think The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is genuine rather than an anti-Semitic forgery?

If it is a forgery, one wonders what it is a forgery of. I prefer to consider how well they fit observed reality. I don't believe the protocols are anti-semitic.

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And are you suggesting that Tony Blair is part of a Jewish plot for world domination?

No.

airliebird58 · 07-07-2005, 13:10

Some of the things the O/P said have crossed my mind too. Maybe I spend to much time on the internet, reading about conspiracies. But one thing is for sure, nothing is what it seems in this world nowadays.
My thoughts are with all who have been harmed by this.

Sigurd · 07-07-2005, 13:13

And I take it too, Beretta Man, that you are implying by your reference to Project Northwood that it was the British government that caused the bombings in London today. Or do you think it was the Jews?

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The Americans in their project Northwood of the 1960’s (recently declassified state department documents) signalled a willingness to manufacture terror attacks on their own citizens, which could be blamed on the Cubans to justify an unpopular foreign policy.

Source: http://************/dlunl

I believe in other threads you've expressed your support for Muslim causes too.

Hmm.

DryHumper · 07-07-2005, 13:13

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Originally Posted by Beretta Man

It would appear the thread title went way over your head.

People write the kind of nonsense you wrote, in all seriousness, on here every day. What am I supposed to think? You need to make far more ridiculous statements (at least in the first two lines) to make it obivous you're being sarcastic

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Doc Shmok · 07-07-2005, 13:14

Shalom ...

Sigurd · 07-07-2005, 13:15

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Originally Posted by Beretta Man

If it is a forgery, one wonders what it is a forgery of. I prefer to consider how well they fit observed reality. I don't believe the protocols are anti-semitic.

So how do you react to this?

http://www.holocaust-history.org/sho...rotocols.shtml

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 13:16

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

And I take it too, Beretta Man, that you are implying by your reference to Project Northwood that it was the British government that caused the bombings in London today. Or do you think it was the Jews?

Source: http://************/dlunl

I believe in other threads you've expressed your support for Muslim causes too.

Hmm.

You seem fond of making idiotic assumptions.

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

So how do you react to this?

http://www.holocaust-history.org/sho...rotocols.shtml

I am left wondering why I am directed to a page which says "you are not authorized to view this page."

Sigurd · 07-07-2005, 13:20

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Originally Posted by Beretta Man

You seem fond of making idiotic assumptions.

Go on, then, maybe I'm a bit of a dullard. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

Tell me, in simple, clear language, exactly what points you were really trying to make in your opening post.

Beretta Man · 07-07-2005, 13:20

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Originally Posted by DryHumper

You need to make far more ridiculous statements (at least in the first two lines) to make it obivous you're being sarcastic

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Fair enough.

Sigurd · 07-07-2005, 13:22

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Originally Posted by Beretta Man

I am left wondering why I am directed to a page which says "you are not authorized to view this page."

I wonder why you can't access it? I can.

Try this link then:

http://************/7dks8

Doc Shmok · 07-07-2005, 13:25

Ezel ................

Hamlet77 · 07-07-2005, 13:28

The OP makes a valid point, however ill timed or seemingly distasteful.

Sadly one of my thought about this mornings events has been ID will now become more popular again.

How will ID card prevent events like today? Just because someone is in this country without an ID card does that mean they have no rights of freedom or movement. It wil be a sad day for this country when anyone can stopped and locked up just cos they have'nt got a piece of plastic with their fingerprints on it.

Yes we should all be diligient but to think that this biometric almost 'bionic' piece of plastic will make us all safer in our beds is beyond a joke and surely one of the aims of 'them' whoever 'they' are is to make us all suffer under a government jackboot of lack of freedom.

There are better ways of expressing valid points at times like this, but never let us forget our freedom, not just from tyranny or terrorists, but also the freedom of being an individual, THAT is as precious as any other.

07-07-2005, 12:35	#2
Beretta Man Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 516	I would like to state my sadness at the loss of life and suffering of the people involved in the bombings today.

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Channel Hopper Inactive Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pergatory, it be near Croydon Services: BT 500 Plug and Go, and BIG bastard motorised dish Posts: 15,504	you appear to have terrible coffee where you live

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Sigurd Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Gender: Male Location: Galloway Posts: 14,166	Since you quote from it in your opening post, Beretta Man, I take it that you think The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is genuine rather than an anti-Semitic forgery? And are you suggesting that Tony Blair is part of a Jewish plot for world domination?

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airliebird58 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: East Yorkshire Services: Sky, Karoo Broadband Posts: 169	Some of the things the O/P said have crossed my mind too. Maybe I spend to much time on the internet, reading about conspiracies. But one thing is for sure, nothing is what it seems in this world nowadays. My thoughts are with all who have been harmed by this.

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Doc Shmok Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Services: one small sh\|t for a man one giant ... Posts: 14,234	Shalom ...

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Doc Shmok Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Services: one small sh\|t for a man one giant ... Posts: 14,234	Ezel ................

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Hamlet77 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Liverpool. Champions of Europe Services: BT EIGHT MEG nose bleed fast, btmobile, Celebdaq = Vilnius Posts: 12,429	The OP makes a valid point, however ill timed or seemingly distasteful. Sadly one of my thought about this mornings events has been ID will now become more popular again. How will ID card prevent events like today? Just because someone is in this country without an ID card does that mean they have no rights of freedom or movement. It wil be a sad day for this country when anyone can stopped and locked up just cos they have'nt got a piece of plastic with their fingerprints on it. Yes we should all be diligient but to think that this biometric almost 'bionic' piece of plastic will make us all safer in our beds is beyond a joke and surely one of the aims of 'them' whoever 'they' are is to make us all suffer under a government jackboot of lack of freedom. There are better ways of expressing valid points at times like this, but never let us forget our freedom, not just from tyranny or terrorists, but also the freedom of being an individual, THAT is as precious as any other.