I admit it.. I am happy that Makosi has got on with Ant and Craig! - Big Brother

SWW (SWW) · 07-08-2005, 23:13

It is only a game show and continuing feuds are pointless and not at all constructive in my opinion.

Hopefully, Makosi's bond with Ant and Craig, and Kemal's with Derek will bring ALL the HMs together at the BB BBQ. From what I could ascertain Max and Science wern't taking things too personally on Ministry of Mayhem, and seemed quite amicable behind all the hyperbole

They have all shared an intense and life changing experience in the House and I wish them ALL, the best in their futures, as I freely admit, I would never put myself up to such intense and public scrutiny.

I also hope that Lesley's rejection by the media will force her to be genuinely apologetic and nice to Sam, as that whole issue still grates me.

Mary's Week 1 analysis of the HMs was so true, and I will never forgive Makosi for putting her up, not that that means anything.

It brought a smile to my face that Victor and Stuart are still friends, and I hope the same will apply for most of these HMs.

As for Orlaith and Derek, I think both acknowledge that BB is a stepping stone that should be quickly dumped, and she won't really care and he might be abroad... and funnily enough they have a better understanding of the genre than the other HMs.

Just a typsy post.

Any comments? Our of interest, how do you see the BB BBQ?

Jarq · 07-08-2005, 23:29

Sounds like a U-Turn to me

Glad to see you have a reverse gear lol

armorium · 07-08-2005, 23:30

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Originally Posted by SWW (SWW)

Hopefully, Makosi's bond with Ant and Craig, and Kemal's with Derek will bring ALL the HMs together at the BB BBQ.

are you joking?!

derek disliked makosi for having multiple faces and lying all the time
they will be all smiles because they are on camera

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Originally Posted by SWW (SWW)

From what I could ascertain Max and Science wern't taking things too personally on Ministry of Mayhem, and seemed quite amicable behind all the hyperbole

not being in the pressure cooker BB house will be a start
it may also show to how much HMs were winding others up for the cameras

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They have all shared an intense and life changing experience in the House and I wish them ALL, the best in their futures, as I freely admit, I would never put myself up to such intense and public scrutiny.

you are obviously sensible and not a wannabe

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I also hope that Lesley's rejection by the media will force her to be genuinely apologetic and nice to Sam, as that whole issue still grates me.

by her BBLB performance, i wouldn't think so

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Mary's Week 1 analysis of the HMs was so true, and I will never forgive Makosi for putting her up, not that that means anything.

i thought she was wackily obsessed with who was false or not, and she expected that HMs not talk with ones that she fell out with, which was unrealistic and divisive

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It brought a smile to my face that Victor and Stuart are still friends, and I hope the same will apply for most of these HMs.

i think some of the HMs who were in similar teams may stay together
(course in bb5, they stayed in one of the two teams all the way through)

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As for Orlaith and Derek, I think both acknowledge that BB is a stepping stone that should be quickly dumped, and she won't really care and he might be abroad... and funnily enough they have a better understanding of the genre than the other HMs.

both may turn up at the bbq and be all smiles!

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Our of interest, how do you see the BB BBQ?

on the BBLB reunion show

armorium · 07-08-2005, 23:32

and to answer the thread title: makosi is only out for makosi

batteryboy · 07-08-2005, 23:33

I can't imagine Craig all being friendly with the rest of the HMs at the BB BBQ except for Sl*tty Saskia, Mangy Maxy & Retard Geordie but methinks they won't want to know him anymore after BB.

How he will resume his friendship with Lesley outside the BB house, I don't know.

It's well known that Lesley hates Saskia & vice versa so there's bound to be an argument between these women when they meet at the BB BBQ.

07-08-2005, 23:34

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Originally Posted by SWW (SWW)

They have all shared an intense and life changing experience in the House and I wish them ALL, the best in their futures, as I freely admit, I would never put myself up to such intense and public scrutiny.

Well said.Sometimes we are all far too cynical and I include myself in that too.

SWW (SWW) · 07-08-2005, 23:35

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Originally Posted by armorium

and to answer the thread title: makosi is only out for makosi

Armorium, thanks for your point by point response

But don't you think, as Makosi has intimated and Derek has revealed (to an extent on BBLB), that what she does in the House is her interpretation of the game... she even told Kemal/BB this in the Diary Room?

Ta

PS: Bad English pour moi... I meant what do you think the BB BBQ will be like, as opposed to where I can see it.

Susann · 07-08-2005, 23:36

I am always happy to see most of the housemates getting on ok outside of the BB house

once the show finishes for another year.

It doesn't matter wheather I liked or disliked them in the house. It's not me who has to get on with them. That dislike for me usually dwindles somewhat once they are out the BB house anyway or intensifies in the case of Jade

Alas some will never get on though

as has been shown by past series

SWW (SWW) · 07-08-2005, 23:39

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I always happy to see most housemates getting on ok outside of the BB house

once the show finishes for another year.

Alas some will never get on though

as has been shown by past series

Tis true Susann, I have been surprised at how easily Kemal changed his view re:Makosi.. and have been impressed by Derek's ability to compartmentalise the HMs post BB.

I also hope Roberto and Mary are no longer as bitter as they appeared to be post BB.

I do think it is a shame about Jade and Kate though, they seem to have totally ignored the great last week they had with Jonny and Alex IMO

Regards

anna123 · 07-08-2005, 23:40

I personally think Makosi would get on with the housemates on the "outside" However i'm not sure if they will all be forgiving of her as she has back stabbed.
Kemal was plain nasty to Orlaith on bblb (despite the fact she wanted them to just get on ) and i reckon he will be exactly them same to Makosi, science , saskia etc...
I can't see Science and Derek becoming "best mates" any time soon either.
It would be interesting to see what happens on the reuinion show on sunday but i reckon their will be quite a few arguments.

batteryboy · 07-08-2005, 23:45

Oh Gaawd!!! I totally forgot about Makosi!!

How the rest of the HMs will treat her when they meet together at the BB BBQ?

I bet Vanessa will be the only one to greet her with open arms & a beaming smile!

Hope the rest of the HMs don't get their hands on steak knives to stab her!!

SWW (SWW) · 07-08-2005, 23:46

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Originally Posted by anna123

I personally think Makosi would get on with the housemates on the "outside" However i'm not sure if they will all be forgiving of her as she has back stabbed.
Kemal was plain nasty to Orlaith on bblb (despite the fact she wanted them to just get on ) and i reckon he will be exactly them same to Makosi, science , saskia etc...
I can't see Science and Derek becoming "best mates" any time soon either.
It would be interesting to see what happens on the reuinion show on sunday but i reckon their will be quite a few arguments.

Good morning anna123,

Even though I am a fan of Orlaith, I do think she may have overstepped the mark with her commenst about punkding the other HMs... as they were made post BB... and included ALL the remaining HMs and specifically Kemal...

But in her defence, Kemal was obssessed with "hating" her because of his "love" for Makosi, which he himself should re-analyse re: relationships with other HMs.

As for "rows" at the BBQ... I hope the HMs noted that Emma and Victor did little post-BB probably because of their refusal to let bygones br bygones... whilst the shrewder Shell, Dan, Vanessa etc rose above it all, and have made a few bucks out of appearing to leave the show's content in the House and not prolonging.

Regards

Jarq · 07-08-2005, 23:47

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It would be interesting to see what happens on the reuinion show on sunday but i reckon their will be quite a few arguments.

anna,
I doubt there will be much resentment on the reunion show.
By that time each housemate will be primed by their respective agents to say and do exactly the right thing.
But give it a few months when certain housemates feel their shelf life coming to an end and I am sure the resentment will surface.

Veri · 07-08-2005, 23:50

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Originally Posted by SWW (SWW)

I also hope that Lesley's rejection by the media will force her to be genuinely apologetic and nice ...

Or feed her hate, which I think is more likely.

SWW (SWW) · 07-08-2005, 23:51

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Or feed her hate, which I think is more likely.

Indeed Veri, but I can only hope

Plant · 07-08-2005, 23:52

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Originally Posted by batteryboy

Oh Gaawd!!! I totally forgot about Makosi!!

How the rest of the HMs will treat her when they meet together at the BB BBQ?

I bet Vanessa will be the only one to greet her with open arms & a beaming smile!

Hope the rest of the HMs don't get their hands on steak knives to stab her!!

You do realise Makosi has told virtually every housemate what she thinks of them while still in the house?

batteryboy · 07-08-2005, 23:53

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Originally Posted by batteryboy

Oh Gaawd!!! I totally forgot about Makosi!!

How the rest of the HMs will treat her when they meet together at the BB BBQ?

I bet Vanessa will be the only one to greet her with open arms & a beaming smile!

Hope the rest of the HMs don't get their hands on steak knives to stab her!!

methinks Vanessa will be the next to get stabbed afterwards....

Veri · 07-08-2005, 23:54

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Originally Posted by SWW (SWW)

Indeed Veri, but I can only hope

Or fear. Can the housemates take a friend?

Kewpee · 07-08-2005, 23:56

I don't think Makosi made a conscious choice to be with Craig and Anthony. Her dislike of Kinga and lack of conversation with Eugene, pushed he in the only other direction. That and the fact that those three are original HM's, something that would also make them feel more of a bond.

It's always nice to see the HM's get on in the last week, but I don't think we are seeing that. At best they are tolerating each other, that's all.

Makosi and Craig are very similar people, they both talk over others, they both like to gossip behind others backs, they both think that they can analyse other people and that they know what others are thinking etc. They are both so far up their own backsides that they are gazing at their tonsils, they have to outdo, be better than and have the last word.

Those reasons are why they haven't been that close before, they have always known that the other is a similar creature, and that has kept them at a respectful distance.

This last few days have seen them both doing what they have done best for the last 10 weeks, bitch, score points over others and constantly seek attention, only now they are doing it as a team.

Craig blamed Lesleh for bringing the worst out in him, Makosi fans have blamed Vanessa for bringing the worst out in her. Now those two are together, they will probably blame each other after the series ends.

batteryboy · 07-08-2005, 23:56

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Originally Posted by Plant

You do realise Makosi has told virtually every housemate what she thinks of them while still in the house?

But she hasn't been openly honest with them as she should have.

Instead she bitched & lied about the HMs to Vanessa & Kemal in the loft out of earshot.

08-08-2005, 00:01

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Originally Posted by Kewpee

I don't think Makosi made a conscious choice to be with Craig and Anthony. Her dislike of Kinga and lack of conversation with Eugene, pushed he in the only other direction. That and the fact that those three are original HM's, something that would also make them feel more of a bond.

It's always nice to see the HM's get on in the last week, but I don't think we are seeing that. At best they are tolerating each other, that's all.

Makosi and Craig are very similar people, they both talk over others, they both like to gossip behind others backs, they both think that they can analyse other people and that they know what others are thinking etc. They are both so far up their own backsides that they are gazing at their tonsils, they have to outdo, be better than and have the last word.

Those reasons are why they haven't been that close before, they have always known that the other is a similar creature, and that has kept them at a respectful distance.

This last few days have seen them both doing what they have done best for the last 10 weeks, bitch, score points over others and constantly seek attention, only now they are doing it as a team.

Craig blamed Lesleh for bringing the worst out in him, Makosi fans have blamed Vanessa for bringing the worst out in her. Now those two are together, they will probably blame each other after the series ends.

Great post Kewpee.

anna123 · 08-08-2005, 00:04

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Originally Posted by batteryboy

Oh Gaawd!!! I totally forgot about Makosi!!

How the rest of the HMs will treat her when they meet together at the BB BBQ?

I bet Vanessa will be the only one to greet her with open arms & a beaming smile!

Hope the rest of the HMs don't get their hands on steak knives to stab her!!

Makosi does speak quite highly or sam though.. even when the others are slating her so i think Sam will probably be quite supportive of her!
But yes i can't see Maxwell, saskia or Kemal being quite so forgiving.
I know its different when they are outside the house but I just can't see them all suddenly becoming friends. It will be interesting to see what happens though.

Jarq · 08-08-2005, 00:07

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Originally Posted by Kewpee

I don't think Makosi made a conscious choice to be with Craig and Anthony.

I don't buy that for a second.
Remember when Makosi taunted Craig (when she had the balance of power) and reminded Craig that team Britney was finished?
You can be sure as an observer if I can remember that so will Makosi (assuming she's half as clever as she says she is)
At that point Makosi thought she had it in the bag - she miscalculated badly and had to go running back tail between her legs back to Craig.

Reality Sucks · 08-08-2005, 00:08

Makosi will be lucky if anyone ever wants to speak to her again.

batteryboy · 08-08-2005, 00:15

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Originally Posted by anna123

Makosi does speak quite highly or sam though.. even when the others are slating her so i think Sam will probably be quite supportive of her!
But yes i can't see Maxwell, saskia or Kemal being quite so forgiving.
I know its different when they are outside the house but I just can't see them all suddenly becoming friends. It will be interesting to see what happens though.

Anna, you are right about Makosi as she spoke well of Sam quite recently.

But I don't think Sam thinks highly of Makosi as I remember Sam telling BB in the Diary Room that she hated all the HMs and hoped that BB would bring a new batch of HMs to replace them.

07-08-2005, 23:13	#1
SWW (SWW) Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 22,528	I admit it.. I am happy that Makosi has got on with Ant and Craig! It is only a game show and continuing feuds are pointless and not at all constructive in my opinion. Hopefully, Makosi's bond with Ant and Craig, and Kemal's with Derek will bring ALL the HMs together at the BB BBQ. From what I could ascertain Max and Science wern't taking things too personally on Ministry of Mayhem, and seemed quite amicable behind all the hyperbole They have all shared an intense and life changing experience in the House and I wish them ALL, the best in their futures, as I freely admit, I would never put myself up to such intense and public scrutiny. I also hope that Lesley's rejection by the media will force her to be genuinely apologetic and nice to Sam, as that whole issue still grates me. Mary's Week 1 analysis of the HMs was so true, and I will never forgive Makosi for putting her up, not that that means anything. It brought a smile to my face that Victor and Stuart are still friends, and I hope the same will apply for most of these HMs. As for Orlaith and Derek, I think both acknowledge that BB is a stepping stone that should be quickly dumped, and she won't really care and he might be abroad... and funnily enough they have a better understanding of the genre than the other HMs. Just a typsy post. Any comments? Our of interest, how do you see the BB BBQ?

07-08-2005, 23:29	#2
Jarq Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 298	Sounds like a U-Turn to me Glad to see you have a reverse gear lol

07-08-2005, 23:32	#4
armorium Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Services: The Internets - it's, it's a series of tubes Posts: 18,894	and to answer the thread title: makosi is only out for makosi

07-08-2005, 23:33	#5
batteryboy Banned User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,129	I can't imagine Craig all being friendly with the rest of the HMs at the BB BBQ except for Sl*tty Saskia, Mangy Maxy & Retard Geordie but methinks they won't want to know him anymore after BB. How he will resume his friendship with Lesley outside the BB house, I don't know. It's well known that Lesley hates Saskia & vice versa so there's bound to be an argument between these women when they meet at the BB BBQ.

07-08-2005, 23:36	#8
Susann Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Essex Posts: 27,346	I am always happy to see most of the housemates getting on ok outside of the BB house once the show finishes for another year. It doesn't matter wheather I liked or disliked them in the house. It's not me who has to get on with them. That dislike for me usually dwindles somewhat once they are out the BB house anyway or intensifies in the case of Jade Alas some will never get on though as has been shown by past series

07-08-2005, 23:40	#10
anna123 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: north east england Posts: 10,573	I personally think Makosi would get on with the housemates on the "outside" However i'm not sure if they will all be forgiving of her as she has back stabbed. Kemal was plain nasty to Orlaith on bblb (despite the fact she wanted them to just get on ) and i reckon he will be exactly them same to Makosi, science , saskia etc... I can't see Science and Derek becoming "best mates" any time soon either. It would be interesting to see what happens on the reuinion show on sunday but i reckon their will be quite a few arguments.

07-08-2005, 23:45	#11
batteryboy Banned User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,129	Oh Gaawd!!! I totally forgot about Makosi!! How the rest of the HMs will treat her when they meet together at the BB BBQ? I bet Vanessa will be the only one to greet her with open arms & a beaming smile! Hope the rest of the HMs don't get their hands on steak knives to stab her!!

07-08-2005, 23:56	#19
Kewpee Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Everywhere & nowhere Posts: 34,193	I don't think Makosi made a conscious choice to be with Craig and Anthony. Her dislike of Kinga and lack of conversation with Eugene, pushed he in the only other direction. That and the fact that those three are original HM's, something that would also make them feel more of a bond. It's always nice to see the HM's get on in the last week, but I don't think we are seeing that. At best they are tolerating each other, that's all. Makosi and Craig are very similar people, they both talk over others, they both like to gossip behind others backs, they both think that they can analyse other people and that they know what others are thinking etc. They are both so far up their own backsides that they are gazing at their tonsils, they have to outdo, be better than and have the last word. Those reasons are why they haven't been that close before, they have always known that the other is a similar creature, and that has kept them at a respectful distance. This last few days have seen them both doing what they have done best for the last 10 weeks, bitch, score points over others and constantly seek attention, only now they are doing it as a team. Craig blamed Lesleh for bringing the worst out in him, Makosi fans have blamed Vanessa for bringing the worst out in her. Now those two are together, they will probably blame each other after the series ends.

08-08-2005, 00:08	#24
Reality Sucks Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,690	Makosi will be lucky if anyone ever wants to speak to her again.