the alien series - Movies

Xadlei Xemnas · 13-11-2005, 12:29

alien- i have never seen this one but its supposed to be really scary.
aliens- my favourite movie, i love it, so much action.
alien3- this is alright, why did the little girl have to die.
alien ressurection- never seen it.

do you like these films.
whats your favourite.
can you please tell me what happens in one and four.

Flat_Eric · 13-11-2005, 13:28

Okay very briefly:

ALIEN:

Enormous deep-space cargo ship with crew of 7 (plus cat) picks up distress call from remote planet.

Ship lands on planet, crew investigates and finds huge crashed alien ship that's been there aeons and is now an Alien "nest".

Alien "facehugger" parasite attaches itself to one of crew. Alien "chestburster" bursts out of said astronaut over dinner one night, scoots off and hides in the bowels of the ship, grows rapidly and proceeds to pick off the crew one by one until the final showdown with the last surviving crew member Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) in the escape pod. Alien gets blown out of the air lock, heroine (and cat) survive.

ALIEN RESURRECTION:

200 years after sacrificing herself in "Alien 3" to kill the embryonic Alien queen she was carrying, Ripley is cloned - along with the Alien Queen embryo - on yet another big spaceship, this time run by boffins & soldiers working for The Corporation.

Bunch of space pirates turn up with consignment of hapless victims deep-frozen for the boffins & soldiers to use for the Alien facehuggers to create more Aliens, which then escape and run riot.
Ripley clone, space pirates and a few boffins remain trapped on spaceship as the Aliens close in. A few of them eventually manage to escape in the pirates' own spaceship with the (ludicrous, it must be said) "Alien Baby" stowing away on board as it heads to earth. Some die, survivors kill Alien Baby and make it back (the recently released Director's Cut sees Ripley Clone back on a future Earth at the end of the movie, in a devastated Paris).

My order of preference for the "Alien" Movies:

1) Aliens
2) Alien
3) Alien v. Predator
4) Alien Resurrection
5) Alien 3

I agree - Hicks & Newt dying before the opening credits had finished completely ruined Alien 3 and, arguably, the rest of the franchise. The original screenplay actually had them survive and be the main focus of the movie, with Ripley only briefly appearing at the end or even not coming back at all until Part 4. Newt was an annoying little brat, but the character had potential and could have grown up to become Michelle Pfeiffer (for example) in a grimy T-shirt, wielding a flamethrower. Something along those lines would have been a good way to continue the franchise without it becoming "tired".

swirlygirl · 13-11-2005, 18:02

My order of preference:

1. Alien
2. Aliens
3. Alien 3

Resurrection and VS should just be outlawed

I absolutely love them. I always thought that if I was to enter Mastermind they'd have to be my specialist subject

Zeus · 13-11-2005, 18:18

Marks out of 10

Alien - 10
Aliens - 10
Alien 3 - 4
Alien Resur - 4
AVP - 5

Unicron · 13-11-2005, 18:52

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Originally Posted by xtina watts

alien- i have never seen this one but its supposed to be really scary.
aliens- my favourite movie, i love it, so much action.
alien3- this is alright, why did the little girl have to die.
alien ressurection- never seen it.

do you like these films.
whats your favourite.
can you please tell me what happens in one and four.

If Aliens is your favourite movie why haven't you got round to watching Parts 1 and 4? Asking what happens will surely ruin them for you.

Here is my order of preference

1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Alien Resurrection
4. Alien 3

Histeria · 14-11-2005, 22:33

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Originally Posted by Unicron

If Aliens is your favourite movie why haven't you got round to watching Parts 1 and 4? Asking what happens will surely ruin them for you.

Here is my order of preference

1. Aliens
2. Alien
3. Alien Resurrection
4. Alien 3

Yup, Yup, Yup and Yup.

Oh, and if I could add to that list.

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jenzie · 14-11-2005, 22:44

let's see, i have .....

alien - 2disk dvd SE, WS vhs (original release)
aliens - 1disk SE, 2disk SE, FS vhs (original release)
alien3 - 2disk dvd SE, WS vhs (original release), cinema
alienR - 2disk dvd SE, cinema
AvP - 2disk dvd

and yes, the despatching of potentially good characters bloody annoyed me!!

anyone wanted DRAKE (aliens) to survive?

Granny · 15-11-2005, 10:12

Alien Resurrection went seriously downhill after the decision to kill off Michael Wincott (y'know, that charismatic bad guy off the Crow innit). It was almost as bad as Charles Dance dying in Alien 3.

performingmonk · 15-11-2005, 14:04

I don't know how anyone can rank Alien Resurrection or Alien vs Predator above Alien 3. Resurrection is just a disgrace to the series, where Alien 3 is dark and brooding with some decent performances and at least a plausible plot and situation. But I much prefer the different cut of Alien 3 that's on the Quadrilogy set. It's more like what it should have been originally before the studio stepped in and said it had to be cut down. It was the first film of Fight Club and Se7en director David Fincher.

The original Alien is a true classic, one of the greatest movies in history.

Flat_Eric · 16-11-2005, 08:11

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Originally Posted by performingmonk

I don't know how anyone can rank Alien Resurrection or Alien vs Predator above Alien 3.

Because in the end it's all down to personal preference.

For me, killing Hicks and Newt during the opening credits of "Alien 3" completely ruined the entire movie. Especially having read alternate (and intended) screenplays for "Alien 3" in which they played a key role.

Kind of made the whole ordeal they went through and survived in "Aliens" kind of ... I don't know ... "pointless" is the best word I can think of.

I agree with you that "Resurrection" certainly had it's weak points - the poor attempts to inject humour and the whole 'Alien baby' thing being the biggest. But I wouldn't go so far as to call it a "disgrace" to the series.

As for "A v P", I can't help but think that a lot of bandwagon-jumping went on with that movie, as far as people's attitudes towards it are concerned. Sure, it's not the best movie in the franchise, but it wasn't that bad. It was never really given a chance - people were slagging it off before it was even in the can and saying that it's "bound to be crap" and such like. It was fighting an uphill battle right from the outset.

Flat_Eric · 16-11-2005, 08:23

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Originally Posted by Granny

Alien Resurrection went seriously downhill after the decision to kill off Michael Wincott. It was almost as bad as Charles Dance dying in Alien 3.

Yeah I know - and then they spared the awful Ron Perlman character Johner (spelling??!).

And Charles Dance's was the only memorable supporting character in A3, apart from the main black guy who survived until near the end - and even his name escapes me!

The rest were for the most part just one-dimensional carbon copies of each other and were never going to be anything more than Alien fodder.

And Brian Glover as the warden was a casting nightmare. I kept expecting the Tetley Tea Folk to pop up at any moment.

13-11-2005, 12:29	#1
Xadlei Xemnas Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Telford Posts: 2,892 Blog Entries: 1	the alien series alien- i have never seen this one but its supposed to be really scary. aliens- my favourite movie, i love it, so much action. alien3- this is alright, why did the little girl have to die. alien ressurection- never seen it. do you like these films. whats your favourite. can you please tell me what happens in one and four.

13-11-2005, 13:28	#2
Flat_Eric Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Always on the road. Posts: 2,821	Okay very briefly: ALIEN: Enormous deep-space cargo ship with crew of 7 (plus cat) picks up distress call from remote planet. Ship lands on planet, crew investigates and finds huge crashed alien ship that's been there aeons and is now an Alien "nest". Alien "facehugger" parasite attaches itself to one of crew. Alien "chestburster" bursts out of said astronaut over dinner one night, scoots off and hides in the bowels of the ship, grows rapidly and proceeds to pick off the crew one by one until the final showdown with the last surviving crew member Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) in the escape pod. Alien gets blown out of the air lock, heroine (and cat) survive. ALIEN RESURRECTION: 200 years after sacrificing herself in "Alien 3" to kill the embryonic Alien queen she was carrying, Ripley is cloned - along with the Alien Queen embryo - on yet another big spaceship, this time run by boffins & soldiers working for The Corporation. Bunch of space pirates turn up with consignment of hapless victims deep-frozen for the boffins & soldiers to use for the Alien facehuggers to create more Aliens, which then escape and run riot. Ripley clone, space pirates and a few boffins remain trapped on spaceship as the Aliens close in. A few of them eventually manage to escape in the pirates' own spaceship with the (ludicrous, it must be said) "Alien Baby" stowing away on board as it heads to earth. Some die, survivors kill Alien Baby and make it back (the recently released Director's Cut sees Ripley Clone back on a future Earth at the end of the movie, in a devastated Paris). My order of preference for the "Alien" Movies: 1) Aliens 2) Alien 3) Alien v. Predator 4) Alien Resurrection 5) Alien 3 I agree - Hicks & Newt dying before the opening credits had finished completely ruined Alien 3 and, arguably, the rest of the franchise. The original screenplay actually had them survive and be the main focus of the movie, with Ripley only briefly appearing at the end or even not coming back at all until Part 4. Newt was an annoying little brat, but the character had potential and could have grown up to become Michelle Pfeiffer (for example) in a grimy T-shirt, wielding a flamethrower. Something along those lines would have been a good way to continue the franchise without it becoming "tired". Last edited by Flat_Eric : 13-11-2005 at 13:51.

13-11-2005, 18:02	#3
swirlygirl Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Glasgow Services: VM everything for telly, V+, VM 20Mb broadband Posts: 4,402	My order of preference: 1. Alien 2. Aliens 3. Alien 3 Resurrection and VS should just be outlawed I absolutely love them. I always thought that if I was to enter Mastermind they'd have to be my specialist subject

13-11-2005, 18:18	#4
Zeus Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Leeds Posts: 7,314	Marks out of 10 Alien - 10 Aliens - 10 Alien 3 - 4 Alien Resur - 4 AVP - 5

14-11-2005, 22:44	#7
jenzie Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: one very messy room :0 Services: VM M-Broadband - sky digital 2mix Posts: 8,251	let's see, i have ..... alien - 2disk dvd SE, WS vhs (original release) aliens - 1disk SE, 2disk SE, FS vhs (original release) alien3 - 2disk dvd SE, WS vhs (original release), cinema alienR - 2disk dvd SE, cinema AvP - 2disk dvd and yes, the despatching of potentially good characters bloody annoyed me!! anyone wanted DRAKE (aliens) to survive?

15-11-2005, 10:12	#8
Granny Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: London Services: sky, blueyonder broadband Posts: 2,026	Alien Resurrection went seriously downhill after the decision to kill off Michael Wincott (y'know, that charismatic bad guy off the Crow innit). It was almost as bad as Charles Dance dying in Alien 3.

15-11-2005, 14:04	#9
performingmonk Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,787	I don't know how anyone can rank Alien Resurrection or Alien vs Predator above Alien 3. Resurrection is just a disgrace to the series, where Alien 3 is dark and brooding with some decent performances and at least a plausible plot and situation. But I much prefer the different cut of Alien 3 that's on the Quadrilogy set. It's more like what it should have been originally before the studio stepped in and said it had to be cut down. It was the first film of Fight Club and Se7en director David Fincher. The original Alien is a true classic, one of the greatest movies in history.