Martial Law No Longer On The Horizon: It's Already Here - General Discussion

john74 · 27-12-2005, 19:31

Martial Law No Longer On The Horizon: It's Already Here - Part One
Militarized Federal Police All Over The Streets With The Precedent to Kill

Steve Watson / Prisonplanet | December 15 2005

Prison Planet.tv members click here to listen to Alex Jones and Paul Watson discuss the issues in this article.

The latter half of this year has seen a significant shift. For a long time we have been reporting that Martial Law is coming to America. We do not believe this to be the case anymore. Unfortunately this is because IT HAS ARRIVED.

So many individual incidents have contributed towards the shift towards a police state and away from freedom in America and across the globe.

With the reports of December 14 stating that VIPER Teams are to Patrol Mass Transit Facilities, we can no longer hold back and suggest that we can prevent martial law from happening. We now have to progress with the peaceful revolution of information in order to OVERTURN the police state.

The Associated Press reported that Federal air marshals are expanding their work beyond airplanes, launching counterterror surveillance at train stations and other mass transit facilities in a three-day test program.

This involves Federally brainwashed goons stomping round with machine guns and vicious dogs, getting in everyone's face and randomly grabbing and searching people on the subway.

This is to be implemented NATIONWIDE: "The so-called "Visible Intermodal Protection and Response" teams — or VIPER teams — will patrol Amtrak's Northeast Corridor and Los Angeles rail lines; ferries in Washington state; bus stations in Houston; and mass transit systems in Atlanta, Philadelphia, Washington and Baltimore."

We reported over and over again that former Homeland Security Tsar Tom Ridge said the airport provisions were going to go nationwide everywhere. He also said that security provisions including fingerscanning and biometric face scanning would spread from airports. No doubt this next stage will be implemented after the next terror scare.

We reported in July that in the immediate aftermath of the London tube bombings it was revealed that passengers may soon have to undergo FULL body scans. The technology, that is now being used in airports will scan through clothes a reveal a naked picture of the person.

The VIPER teams have nothing to do with preventing terrorism, they are there to get people to cower and accept they are under control. Air marshal spokesman David Adams has commented that there is no new intelligence indicating that terrorists are interested in targeting transportation modes.

The move into martial law comes one week after the incident in Miami where reportedly mentally unstable man Rigoberto Alpizar was gunned down on board American Airlines Flight 924 for "saying he had a bomb".

We exposed the fact that witnesses reported that Alpizar never screamed that he had a bomb and passengers related that they were more frightened of Air Marshals putting guns to their head and threatening them not to look at what was taking place. The incident was a primer for the move to put Federal militarized police on the streets and all over transport networks.

The incident has uncanny parallels with the murder of Charles de Menezes by British undercover police one day after the supposed aborted second London bombings on July 22nd.

De Menezes was wearing a light denim jacket, did not vault a barrier, calmly picked up a newspaper, did not have wires trailing from his jacket and was not seen coming from the building under surveillance one day after the failed bombings. CCTV tapes of the incident were seized by police who then claimed that the tapes didn't exist due to the cameras conveniently malfunctioning at that exact time, something which the London Underground workers wholesale denied.

De Menezes walked onto the train and was the shot in the head officially eight times, possibly more.

The two separate events set a precedent: YOU WILL FALL DIRECTLY INTO LINE should the military police deem your behaviour suspicious and wish to question you because if you don't they will KILL YOU.

So, for example, should you attempt to help someone out by selling them a spare token you have, that may be deemed as suspicious behaviour and you will be cuffed and taken away. If you resist you will be shot.

There's no half way here, that is Martial Law.

Last month we reported that Miami cops are to stage sieges, randomly check ID's, ride buses and trains and stop anyone they choose for no reason.

The Miami model is the very definition of a pervasive police state based on the fear of terrorists and the fear of being identified as a terrorist if you do not comply with every demand, no matter how much it brutalizes every notion of what it is to live in a free society.

All of this seems to be direct fallout from the London transport bombings in July. However, in London there are currently no more personnel at underground stations than there was before July 7. How is it that there are major debates going on over new terror laws in Britain and urgent talk of installing biometric ID scanning equipment, yet the authorities do not seem to care one jot about hiring more London transport workers to man stations.

Furthermore, the government have announced that there is to be NO INDEPENDENT INQUIRY into the July 7 bombings. They are simply going to release an official report telling us what happened - how helpful. So no public inquiry, no extra workers at stations but we HAVE to pass new terror laws and install surveillance equipment, and then possibly military police and sniffer dogs?

Coming in Part Two - The domestic surveillance grid and the extended global police State.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/dec...artial_law.htm

john74 · 27-12-2005, 19:32

Martial Law No Longer On The Horizon: It's Already Here - Part Two
Global Move Into Police State Confirms Earth As Literal Prison Planet

Steve Watson / Prisonplanet | December 15 2005

Part one of this report here

Along with militarized Federal police roaming around in public nationwide, moves are afoot by the Pentagon to track and trace American citizens whom they deem to be 'Suspicious'.

This once again highlights that America has already moved into a martial law situation.

MSNBC ran a piece yesterday covering the fact that a secret 400-page Defense Department document reveals that the Pentagon now collects domestic intelligence that goes beyond legitimate concerns about terrorism or protecting U.S. Military installations. It has a giant database set up into which peaceful antiwar and counter-military recruitment groups have been entered as possible threats.

Those who attend antiwar demonstrations or Quaker meetings have been monitored and placed on the database. Think about that for a minute, the military is monitoring peaceful US citizens who do not agree with illegal warfare and placing them on a list of possible enemies.

The attitude of the Pentagon can be summed up by arch Neocon, Regan Pentagon adviser and former State Department man Michael Ledeen: "Americans believe that peace is normal, but that's not true. Life isn't like that. Peace is abnormal."

When questioned by the AP on whether domestic surveillance is common practice the Pentagon did not deny it.

We have previously reported multiple times on how the intelligence and law enforcement agencies have "domestic-terrorism files" into which peaceful protesters have been placed.

The ACLU has obtained a number of these files under the Freedom of Information Act. Those who utilize their First Amendment right are now being placed on file by the FBI and the State Department as possible terrorists. The precedent is set, if you protest you go on the subversive list and you'll be first into the forced labor camps when a city or two gets nuked.

Of course, we have known for a long time that The renewed and extended Patriot Act will target protesters and allow secret services a wider latitude at public events. Penalties for such violations would increase from six months to a year in prison.

The House yesterday voted to revise and extend The Patriot Act to give the FBI more powers to track communications, monitor library usage, demand business records, conduct secret searches, monitor telephone calls and e-mails, and obtain bank records and other personal documents.

The Patriot Act as we have exhaustively documented is the key police state weapon the authorities have in their armory. The party line often heard from Neo-Cons in their attempts to defend the Patriot Act either circulate around the contention that the use of the Patriot Act has never been abused or that it isn't being used against American citizens. The Legislation's reach HAS gone beyond terrorism and it IS actively being used to target American citizens.

Remember, section 802 is specifically aimed at US citizens and announces any crime as "domestic terrorism". Citizens can be held without a trial as "Enemy Combatants"

Also under the Patriot Act police are authorized to impose "Free Speech Zones". I thought the entire nation was a "Free Speech Zone." I thought that's what "freedom of speech" meant in the Constitution. Oh sorry, I forgot it's only a "goddammed piece of paper"

It seems that America is now a country where"free speech" means something entirely different if you don`t happen to agree with what your President, and/or his administration, have done in your name.

Of course none of this is entirely new, we have documented it for a long time now, it is simply now more out in the open and more widespread.

America is now under Martial Law, but it does not end there, a large portion of the planet has now shifted into this state. The American model has become the norm everywhere. We are literally living on a prison planet.

Canada has also just implemented armed transit police to keep everyone safe.

Both Britain and Australia also have domestic surveillance databases that gather the information of anyone who criticizes them or who they consider to be subversive (May I just take this opportunity to say YOU'VE ALREADY GOT ME ON IT, I've been doing this for a while now!).

Last year the Scotland Sunday Herald reported that the British Government was considering just banning protest altogether after a major terror attack and making it against the law to criticize the government in a State of emergency.

Free Speech Zones have also been introduced in Britain this year, making it illegal to protest outside parliament. The new draconian laws forbid spontaneous free speech within a one-kilometre radius of the House of Commons.

"I pass protesters every day at Downing Street, and believe me, you name it, they protest against it. I may not like what they call me but I thank God they can. That's called freedom" - Tony Blair, April 2002

And that's what you have systematically killed off Blair.

Here is just a short London Independent list of incidents this year in Britain indicating that we have now moved into a police state. Convicted for reading the names of 97 war dead, Held for shouting 'nonsense' at Jack Straw, Threatened with jail for Iraq protest , Apprehended for 'offensive' T-shirt, Detained for throwing a tea party, feel the freedom of being British.

Add to that list a woman who voiced her opinions against gay adoption on the radio and subsequently got a phone call from the police. I didn't realise that it was a crime to believe giving a small child or baby to two homosexuals is wrong.

Mrs Burrows commented: "I think the issue of gay adoption is something which ought to be spoken about. The idea of telling you you can't talk about it is so repressive, it's like the KGB calling you up."

In addition to repressive new terror laws, including the right to detain people without trial for up to 90 days, being debated and subsequently defeated in Britain, Australia has faced the same situation, sadly with a different outcome.

When the Australian Government was under intense pressure to water down proposed draconian laws, including provisions whereby peaceful antiwar protesters could be jailed for 7 years for "supporting the opposition of the Australian military", Prime Minister John Howard played the terror card.

Since then violence has erupted throughout the country which has been reported as racially motivated both ways. The Government has simply passed draconian laws allowing police to "lockdown" major cities with curfews, stop and search people and vehicles and seize vehicles and mobile telephones.

Similar events in France last month resulted in the hastened passing of anti terror legislation which vastly increases the state’s powers of electronic surveillance of its citizens through the use of closed-circuit cameras in public places, the recording and monitoring of Internet activity, and the retention of data that must be made available to the state.

The bill also included a provision that allowed for the denial of "the right of assembly" i.e. protesting.

Martial law is clearly being implemented globally and anyone who resists is to be categorized as a subversive and possible domestic terrorist. Why is this legislation, that is clearly aimed at the citizens of the respective countries all over the planet, being called anti-terror legislation? The answer is because everyone is a possible terrorist, almost any crime can now be interpreted as terrorism.

If you think this is an alarmist rant, ignore me, pay no attention. But maybe you should listen to the scores of congressmen and women, FBI and MI5 whistleblowers, British MPs, former CIA analysts, former Bush and Regan Administration officials, Army Generals - a few of which are summarized here.

Maybe you should pay attention when Congressman Ron Paul warns that Martial law is being implemented, or when Former Republican Congressman and CIA official Bob Barr says a military dictatorship is emerging. Or perhaps it's worth a listen when Former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal and former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury Dr. Paul Craig Roberts says the Government is in the hands of total psychopaths bent on martial law.

The list of credible individuals sounding the alarm is extensive and all we can do is attempt to beef up what they are saying with constant facts and reports and give them a platform to get the word out. But it is primarily you people out there who must spread this information far and wide. If we work together to do that we can move out of the Martial law State that we have been herded into.

We cannot all be placed on the subversive list, they can't herd us all into pens. Remember, we are the majority and no matter how much they attempt to quell peaceful protest and the right to free speech, it is still there because it is God given, not government given.

Martial law is upon us, but as they ratchet up the stakes a harmonized peaceful revolution of information is also emerging.

Misanthrope · 27-12-2005, 19:33

We interupt this program with a special bulletin...

America is now under martial law.
All constitutional rights have been suspended
stay in your homes,
do not attempt to contact loved ones,
insurance agents
or attorneys

SHUT UP!

Do not attempt to think, or depresion may occur
stay in your homes
curfew is at 7 pm sharp after work
anyone caught outside the gates of their subdivision sector
will be shot!

Remain calm, do not panic.

Your neighborhood watch inspector will be around to collect urine samples in the morning
Anyone caught interfering with the collection of urine samples
will be shot!

Stay in your homes, remain calm.

The number one enemy of progress is questions.
National security is more important that individual will.
All sports broadcast will proceed as normal.
No more than two people may gather anywhere without permission.
Use only the drugs prescribed by your boss or supervisor.

SHUT UP!
BE HAPPY!

Obey all orders without question.
the comfort you've demanded is now manditory.

BE HAPPY!

At last, everything is done for you...

Jello Biafra

Jargonizer · 27-12-2005, 19:34

Scaremonger.

john74 · 27-12-2005, 19:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misanthrope

We interupt this program with a special bulletin...

America is now under martial law.
All constitutional rights have been suspended
stay in your homes,
do not attempt to contact loved ones,
insurance agents
or attorneys

SHUT UP!

Do not attempt to think, or depresion may occur
stay in your homes
curfew is at 7 pm sharp after work
anyone caught outside the gates of their subdivision sector
will be shot!

Remain calm, do not panic.

Your neighborhood watch inspector will be around to collect urine samples in the morning
Anyone caught interfering with the collection of urine samples
will be shot!

Stay in your homes, remain calm.

The number one enemy of progress is questions.
National security is more important that individual will.
All sports broadcast will proceed as normal.
No more than two people may gather anywhere without permission.
Use only the drugs prescribed by your boss or supervisor.

SHUT UP!
BE HAPPY!

Obey all orders without question.
the comfort you've demanded is now manditory.

BE HAPPY!

At last, everything is done for you...

That would be so funny if it wasn't true.

27-12-2005, 19:42

I hate long post like that they bore me

and I've had alittle dwink

Jargonizer · 27-12-2005, 19:44

I hate such long, unnecessary posts, period..........

Milky Joe · 27-12-2005, 19:47

Aw john74, your posts...i never read them but i still love them...

Mesostim · 27-12-2005, 19:54

The old cut and paste has been at work....

tired · 27-12-2005, 19:55

I haven't seen samo hung for ages.

27-12-2005, 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by tired

I haven't seen samo hung for ages.

Who? I mjust of drunk more than I thought

tired · 27-12-2005, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by John,

Who? I mjust of drunk more than I thought

Sammo, Samo etc...

Misanthrope · 27-12-2005, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by tired

Sammo, Samo etc...

I wonder if he signs on under all those different names.

KJ44 · 27-12-2005, 20:03

Why not just post the links, a short summary and a short comment?

I suppose knowing you don't really have that secret insight that would make you feel special, means that the more words you have to hide behind, the better.

tired · 27-12-2005, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misanthrope

I wonder if he signs on under all those different names.

Some kind of identity disorder I think

blueblade · 27-12-2005, 20:55

john74 ~ the mods have already told us not to plagiarise documents. All you need to do is give a brief summary and post a link.

As for the subject matter. Well it's a bit dramatic, but I've said for a long time that America is becoming a repressed society, with an increasingly authoritarian regime. I hope it's a phase like McCarthy in the 1950's.

I really don't like the way the US administration is operating. They are becoming more bellicose, intrusive and threatening all the time. I just pray that we don't start seriously going down the same road.

It's a sign, in both our countries, that the terrorists have won hands down. Either that, or it's deliberately imposing increased control on the population, using counter terrorism as the pretext.

john74 · 27-12-2005, 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueblade

john74 ~ the mods have already told us not to plagiarise documents. All you need to do is give a brief summary and post a link.

As for the subject matter. Well it's a bit dramatic, but I've said for a long time that America is becoming a repressed society, with an increasingly authoritarian regime. I hope it's a phase like McCarthy in the 1950's.

I really don't like the way the US administration is operating. They are becoming more bellicose, intrusive and threatening all the time. I just pray that we don't start seriously going down the same road.

It's a sign, in both our countries, that the terrorists have won hands down. Either that, or it's deliberately imposing increased control on the population, using counter terrorism as the pretext.

Sorry for posting the truth.

It is increased control on the people using counter terroristism as the excuse. Wouldn't be at all surprised if the government was carrying out the terrorism.

As to the other people on this forum complaining you can always put me on your ignore list. Either that or shut up.

elpaw · 27-12-2005, 21:22

john74 · 27-12-2005, 21:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by elpaw

True but then he does say that he doesn't mind if people copy his material so long as they don't make any money from it.

elpaw · 27-12-2005, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by john74

True but then he does say that he doesn't mind if people copy his material so long as they don't make any money from it.

DS are making money from the advertising on this page

mark_b · 27-12-2005, 22:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by elpaw

DS are making money from the advertising on this page

As do Prison Planet - the people who first published the article. This is why you should just put a summary and a link.

27-12-2005, 19:31	#1
john74 Banned User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,714	Martial Law No Longer On The Horizon: It's Already Here Martial Law No Longer On The Horizon: It's Already Here - Part One Militarized Federal Police All Over The Streets With The Precedent to Kill Steve Watson / Prisonplanet \| December 15 2005 Prison Planet.tv members click here to listen to Alex Jones and Paul Watson discuss the issues in this article. The latter half of this year has seen a significant shift. For a long time we have been reporting that Martial Law is coming to America. We do not believe this to be the case anymore. Unfortunately this is because IT HAS ARRIVED. So many individual incidents have contributed towards the shift towards a police state and away from freedom in America and across the globe. With the reports of December 14 stating that VIPER Teams are to Patrol Mass Transit Facilities, we can no longer hold back and suggest that we can prevent martial law from happening. We now have to progress with the peaceful revolution of information in order to OVERTURN the police state. The Associated Press reported that Federal air marshals are expanding their work beyond airplanes, launching counterterror surveillance at train stations and other mass transit facilities in a three-day test program. This involves Federally brainwashed goons stomping round with machine guns and vicious dogs, getting in everyone's face and randomly grabbing and searching people on the subway. This is to be implemented NATIONWIDE: "The so-called "Visible Intermodal Protection and Response" teams — or VIPER teams — will patrol Amtrak's Northeast Corridor and Los Angeles rail lines; ferries in Washington state; bus stations in Houston; and mass transit systems in Atlanta, Philadelphia, Washington and Baltimore." We reported over and over again that former Homeland Security Tsar Tom Ridge said the airport provisions were going to go nationwide everywhere. He also said that security provisions including fingerscanning and biometric face scanning would spread from airports. No doubt this next stage will be implemented after the next terror scare. We reported in July that in the immediate aftermath of the London tube bombings it was revealed that passengers may soon have to undergo FULL body scans. The technology, that is now being used in airports will scan through clothes a reveal a naked picture of the person. The VIPER teams have nothing to do with preventing terrorism, they are there to get people to cower and accept they are under control. Air marshal spokesman David Adams has commented that there is no new intelligence indicating that terrorists are interested in targeting transportation modes. The move into martial law comes one week after the incident in Miami where reportedly mentally unstable man Rigoberto Alpizar was gunned down on board American Airlines Flight 924 for "saying he had a bomb". We exposed the fact that witnesses reported that Alpizar never screamed that he had a bomb and passengers related that they were more frightened of Air Marshals putting guns to their head and threatening them not to look at what was taking place. The incident was a primer for the move to put Federal militarized police on the streets and all over transport networks. The incident has uncanny parallels with the murder of Charles de Menezes by British undercover police one day after the supposed aborted second London bombings on July 22nd. De Menezes was wearing a light denim jacket, did not vault a barrier, calmly picked up a newspaper, did not have wires trailing from his jacket and was not seen coming from the building under surveillance one day after the failed bombings. CCTV tapes of the incident were seized by police who then claimed that the tapes didn't exist due to the cameras conveniently malfunctioning at that exact time, something which the London Underground workers wholesale denied. De Menezes walked onto the train and was the shot in the head officially eight times, possibly more. The two separate events set a precedent: YOU WILL FALL DIRECTLY INTO LINE should the military police deem your behaviour suspicious and wish to question you because if you don't they will KILL YOU. So, for example, should you attempt to help someone out by selling them a spare token you have, that may be deemed as suspicious behaviour and you will be cuffed and taken away. If you resist you will be shot. There's no half way here, that is Martial Law. Last month we reported that Miami cops are to stage sieges, randomly check ID's, ride buses and trains and stop anyone they choose for no reason. The Miami model is the very definition of a pervasive police state based on the fear of terrorists and the fear of being identified as a terrorist if you do not comply with every demand, no matter how much it brutalizes every notion of what it is to live in a free society. All of this seems to be direct fallout from the London transport bombings in July. However, in London there are currently no more personnel at underground stations than there was before July 7. How is it that there are major debates going on over new terror laws in Britain and urgent talk of installing biometric ID scanning equipment, yet the authorities do not seem to care one jot about hiring more London transport workers to man stations. Furthermore, the government have announced that there is to be NO INDEPENDENT INQUIRY into the July 7 bombings. They are simply going to release an official report telling us what happened - how helpful. So no public inquiry, no extra workers at stations but we HAVE to pass new terror laws and install surveillance equipment, and then possibly military police and sniffer dogs? Coming in Part Two - The domestic surveillance grid and the extended global police State. http://prisonplanet.com/articles/dec...artial_law.htm

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27-12-2005, 19:32	#2
john74 Banned User Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,714	Martial Law No Longer On The Horizon: It's Already Here - Part Two Global Move Into Police State Confirms Earth As Literal Prison Planet Steve Watson / Prisonplanet \| December 15 2005 Part one of this report here Along with militarized Federal police roaming around in public nationwide, moves are afoot by the Pentagon to track and trace American citizens whom they deem to be 'Suspicious'. This once again highlights that America has already moved into a martial law situation. MSNBC ran a piece yesterday covering the fact that a secret 400-page Defense Department document reveals that the Pentagon now collects domestic intelligence that goes beyond legitimate concerns about terrorism or protecting U.S. Military installations. It has a giant database set up into which peaceful antiwar and counter-military recruitment groups have been entered as possible threats. Those who attend antiwar demonstrations or Quaker meetings have been monitored and placed on the database. Think about that for a minute, the military is monitoring peaceful US citizens who do not agree with illegal warfare and placing them on a list of possible enemies. The attitude of the Pentagon can be summed up by arch Neocon, Regan Pentagon adviser and former State Department man Michael Ledeen: "Americans believe that peace is normal, but that's not true. Life isn't like that. Peace is abnormal." When questioned by the AP on whether domestic surveillance is common practice the Pentagon did not deny it. We have previously reported multiple times on how the intelligence and law enforcement agencies have "domestic-terrorism files" into which peaceful protesters have been placed. The ACLU has obtained a number of these files under the Freedom of Information Act. Those who utilize their First Amendment right are now being placed on file by the FBI and the State Department as possible terrorists. The precedent is set, if you protest you go on the subversive list and you'll be first into the forced labor camps when a city or two gets nuked. Of course, we have known for a long time that The renewed and extended Patriot Act will target protesters and allow secret services a wider latitude at public events. Penalties for such violations would increase from six months to a year in prison. The House yesterday voted to revise and extend The Patriot Act to give the FBI more powers to track communications, monitor library usage, demand business records, conduct secret searches, monitor telephone calls and e-mails, and obtain bank records and other personal documents. The Patriot Act as we have exhaustively documented is the key police state weapon the authorities have in their armory. The party line often heard from Neo-Cons in their attempts to defend the Patriot Act either circulate around the contention that the use of the Patriot Act has never been abused or that it isn't being used against American citizens. The Legislation's reach HAS gone beyond terrorism and it IS actively being used to target American citizens. Remember, section 802 is specifically aimed at US citizens and announces any crime as "domestic terrorism". Citizens can be held without a trial as "Enemy Combatants" Also under the Patriot Act police are authorized to impose "Free Speech Zones". I thought the entire nation was a "Free Speech Zone." I thought that's what "freedom of speech" meant in the Constitution. Oh sorry, I forgot it's only a "goddammed piece of paper" It seems that America is now a country where"free speech" means something entirely different if you don`t happen to agree with what your President, and/or his administration, have done in your name. Of course none of this is entirely new, we have documented it for a long time now, it is simply now more out in the open and more widespread. America is now under Martial Law, but it does not end there, a large portion of the planet has now shifted into this state. The American model has become the norm everywhere. We are literally living on a prison planet. Canada has also just implemented armed transit police to keep everyone safe. Both Britain and Australia also have domestic surveillance databases that gather the information of anyone who criticizes them or who they consider to be subversive (May I just take this opportunity to say YOU'VE ALREADY GOT ME ON IT, I've been doing this for a while now!). Last year the Scotland Sunday Herald reported that the British Government was considering just banning protest altogether after a major terror attack and making it against the law to criticize the government in a State of emergency. Free Speech Zones have also been introduced in Britain this year, making it illegal to protest outside parliament. The new draconian laws forbid spontaneous free speech within a one-kilometre radius of the House of Commons. "I pass protesters every day at Downing Street, and believe me, you name it, they protest against it. I may not like what they call me but I thank God they can. That's called freedom" - Tony Blair, April 2002 And that's what you have systematically killed off Blair. Here is just a short London Independent list of incidents this year in Britain indicating that we have now moved into a police state. Convicted for reading the names of 97 war dead, Held for shouting 'nonsense' at Jack Straw, Threatened with jail for Iraq protest , Apprehended for 'offensive' T-shirt, Detained for throwing a tea party, feel the freedom of being British. Add to that list a woman who voiced her opinions against gay adoption on the radio and subsequently got a phone call from the police. I didn't realise that it was a crime to believe giving a small child or baby to two homosexuals is wrong. Mrs Burrows commented: "I think the issue of gay adoption is something which ought to be spoken about. The idea of telling you you can't talk about it is so repressive, it's like the KGB calling you up." In addition to repressive new terror laws, including the right to detain people without trial for up to 90 days, being debated and subsequently defeated in Britain, Australia has faced the same situation, sadly with a different outcome. When the Australian Government was under intense pressure to water down proposed draconian laws, including provisions whereby peaceful antiwar protesters could be jailed for 7 years for "supporting the opposition of the Australian military", Prime Minister John Howard played the terror card. Since then violence has erupted throughout the country which has been reported as racially motivated both ways. The Government has simply passed draconian laws allowing police to "lockdown" major cities with curfews, stop and search people and vehicles and seize vehicles and mobile telephones. Similar events in France last month resulted in the hastened passing of anti terror legislation which vastly increases the state’s powers of electronic surveillance of its citizens through the use of closed-circuit cameras in public places, the recording and monitoring of Internet activity, and the retention of data that must be made available to the state. The bill also included a provision that allowed for the denial of "the right of assembly" i.e. protesting. Martial law is clearly being implemented globally and anyone who resists is to be categorized as a subversive and possible domestic terrorist. Why is this legislation, that is clearly aimed at the citizens of the respective countries all over the planet, being called anti-terror legislation? The answer is because everyone is a possible terrorist, almost any crime can now be interpreted as terrorism. If you think this is an alarmist rant, ignore me, pay no attention. But maybe you should listen to the scores of congressmen and women, FBI and MI5 whistleblowers, British MPs, former CIA analysts, former Bush and Regan Administration officials, Army Generals - a few of which are summarized here. Maybe you should pay attention when Congressman Ron Paul warns that Martial law is being implemented, or when Former Republican Congressman and CIA official Bob Barr says a military dictatorship is emerging. Or perhaps it's worth a listen when Former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal and former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury Dr. Paul Craig Roberts says the Government is in the hands of total psychopaths bent on martial law. The list of credible individuals sounding the alarm is extensive and all we can do is attempt to beef up what they are saying with constant facts and reports and give them a platform to get the word out. But it is primarily you people out there who must spread this information far and wide. If we work together to do that we can move out of the Martial law State that we have been herded into. We cannot all be placed on the subversive list, they can't herd us all into pens. Remember, we are the majority and no matter how much they attempt to quell peaceful protest and the right to free speech, it is still there because it is God given, not government given. Martial law is upon us, but as they ratchet up the stakes a harmonized peaceful revolution of information is also emerging.

27-12-2005, 19:33	#3
Misanthrope Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In my happy place Posts: 5,196	We interupt this program with a special bulletin... America is now under martial law. All constitutional rights have been suspended stay in your homes, do not attempt to contact loved ones, insurance agents or attorneys SHUT UP! Do not attempt to think, or depresion may occur stay in your homes curfew is at 7 pm sharp after work anyone caught outside the gates of their subdivision sector will be shot! Remain calm, do not panic. Your neighborhood watch inspector will be around to collect urine samples in the morning Anyone caught interfering with the collection of urine samples will be shot! Stay in your homes, remain calm. The number one enemy of progress is questions. National security is more important that individual will. All sports broadcast will proceed as normal. No more than two people may gather anywhere without permission. Use only the drugs prescribed by your boss or supervisor. SHUT UP! BE HAPPY! Obey all orders without question. the comfort you've demanded is now manditory. BE HAPPY! At last, everything is done for you... Jello Biafra

27-12-2005, 19:34	#4
Jargonizer Banned User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,005	Scaremonger.

27-12-2005, 19:42	#6
John, Posts: n/a	I hate long post like that they bore me and I've had alittle dwink

27-12-2005, 19:44	#7
Jargonizer Banned User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,005	I hate such long, unnecessary posts, period..........

27-12-2005, 19:47	#8
Milky Joe Forum Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: 0.3 units from doom Services: Wii - Ask for wii number! Posts: 17,448	Aw john74, your posts...i never read them but i still love them...

27-12-2005, 19:54	#9
Mesostim Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Services: You Missed :) Posts: 31,988 Blog Entries: 9	The old cut and paste has been at work....

27-12-2005, 19:55	#10
tired Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 4,911	I haven't seen samo hung for ages.

27-12-2005, 20:03	#14
KJ44 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: location location Services: held fortnightly at Selhurst Park Stadium, Saturday at 3 o'clock Posts: 14,996	Why not just post the links, a short summary and a short comment? I suppose knowing you don't really have that secret insight that would make you feel special, means that the more words you have to hide behind, the better.

27-12-2005, 20:55	#16
blueblade Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex Services: Sky HD, VM broadband Posts: 37,377	john74 ~ the mods have already told us not to plagiarise documents. All you need to do is give a brief summary and post a link. As for the subject matter. Well it's a bit dramatic, but I've said for a long time that America is becoming a repressed society, with an increasingly authoritarian regime. I hope it's a phase like McCarthy in the 1950's. I really don't like the way the US administration is operating. They are becoming more bellicose, intrusive and threatening all the time. I just pray that we don't start seriously going down the same road. It's a sign, in both our countries, that the terrorists have won hands down. Either that, or it's deliberately imposing increased control on the population, using counter terrorism as the pretext.