So much for unconditional love. - General Discussion

18-06-2006, 19:31

Read an article in one of the free magazines they give away in the Sunday papers, about Gail Porter and her alopocia.

It says that Gail's mother is having a hard time coping with her baldness, and sometimes cannot even stand to look at her.

So much for unconditional love and caring for your children, come what may.

It's a good job Gail didn't suffer some really bad disfigurement, such as facial burns.

There are so very shallow people in this world.

Peachie · 18-06-2006, 19:34

She can't bear to look at her own child, purely because she has no hair? Pffft, what a saddo. No other word for it. It must be hard to come to terms with the fact your daughter has an illness, granted, but that is so unbelievably shallow. What difference does a bit of hair make in the grand scheme of things?

ohmygosh · 18-06-2006, 19:37

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Originally Posted by Jean Luc Picard

Read an article in one of the free magazines they give away in the Sunday papers, about Gail Porter and her alopocia.

It says that Gail's mother is having a hard time coping with her baldness, and sometimes cannot even stand to look at her.

So much for unconditional love and caring for your children, come what may.

It's a good job Gail didn't suffer some really bad disfigurement, such as facial burns.

There are so very shallow people in this world.

that is highly disturbing. Over something like that. There are truly some oddies in this world

batdude_uk1 · 18-06-2006, 19:38

I think that if this is true, then it shows how very shallow indeed her mother is. A mother should love her siblings now matter what they look or act like.

ILoveMyDog · 18-06-2006, 19:39

Wow how sad

How horrible to not have support from your own Mother

Gail seems to be coping ok with it now though, after all her troubles

conzer16 · 18-06-2006, 19:41

I think that when she says she cannot stand to look at her, that she actually means she finds it hard to look at her - it breaks her heart. A mother and father will normally love their child with all the love they can give. Parents can be heartbroken to see their children suffering, in trouble, upset, struggling etc.

Thats how i would read that article.

Collette · 18-06-2006, 19:44

I agree with Conzer - maybe it's not worded that well but merely suggests that it's heartbreaking seeing the happy, vivacious child she used to know suffering with a condition that has no real chance of being cured?

18-06-2006, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Peachie

What difference does a bit of hair make in the grand scheme of things?

None whatsoever.

I've got a great deal of respect for Gail Porter, for not wearing a wig.

She's done far more for women who have lost their hair (eg. cancer patients), by showing off her bald head, than the likes of Kiley Minogue with her scarf.

Good on you Gail.

Collette · 18-06-2006, 19:52

She has - she's gone up so much in my opinion since the days when she was projected onto the houses of parliament (was it there - I forget?!) and supposedly gorgeous. She seems so much more human nowadays and more like a real person which automatically makes her (in my opinion) far more attractive.

conzer16 · 18-06-2006, 19:52

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Originally Posted by Collette

I agree with Conzer - maybe it's not worded that well but merely suggests that it's heartbreaking seeing the happy, vivacious child she used to know suffering with a condition that has no real chance of being cured?

Collette, thats exactly what I tried to say.....I apologise for the bad wording!

Collette · 18-06-2006, 19:54

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Originally Posted by conzer16

Collette, thats exactly what I tried to say.....I apologise for the bad wording!

Noooo, sorry I meant the article not you!!

Joe'sgirl · 18-06-2006, 19:58

I haven't read the article, but I could believe a mother's harbouring less than maternal feelings about her daughter, but not broadcasting them in some rag!

18-06-2006, 20:06

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Originally Posted by conzer16

I think that when she says she cannot stand to look at her, that she actually means she finds it hard to look at her - it breaks her heart.

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Originally Posted by conzer16

Thats how i would read that article.

Even if that is the case, I cannot believe anyone would be so insensitive as to express those thoughts to their own child.

Surely one of the most important things about being a parent is to learn to keep silent about negative feelings you have about your child's appearance?

Could you imagine a parent telling their child "My God, you are ugly, with that huge nose and those sticking out ears"?

Me neither.

At the very least, Mrs Porter needs to learn a bit of discretion!

me@home · 18-06-2006, 20:09

GP just had a special on TV a couple of weeks ago about her alopoecia. In it she went home to Scotland to visit her mother with her daughter. Her mother seemed to accept it then and was very loving to GP. I wonder if the article was really quoting her mother or just a piece of fiction.

Collette · 18-06-2006, 20:12

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Originally Posted by me@home

GP just had a special on TV a couple of weeks ago about her alopoecia. In it she went home to Scotland to visit her mother with her daughter. Her mother seemed to accept it then and was very loving to GP. I wonder if the article was really quoting her mother or just a piece of fiction.

Or even, as is very possible with our beloved media in this country taking what she said totally out of context

ILoveMyDog · 18-06-2006, 20:16

She seems so "real" now, like Collette said above.

And the fact she won't hide who she is is so encouraging, someone to look up to I say

me@home · 18-06-2006, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Collette

Or even, as is very possible with our beloved media in this country taking what she said totally out of context

Yep. She might have said something like " I can't bear to see Gail like that. Her suffering upsets me because I can't do anything about it." And you can guess which part of it the press decided to quote.

podge1 · 18-06-2006, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Jean Luc Picard

None whatsoever.

I've got a great deal of respect for Gail Porter, for not wearing a wig.

She's done far more for women who have lost their hair (eg. cancer patients), by showing off her bald head, than the likes of Kiley Minogue with her scarf.

Good on you Gail.

I can never understand why, when congratulating one aspect of courage, it is deemed necessary to knock a different example of a similar determination to make a point.

Remarks like this are judgemental on those women who opt to wear a wig during hair loss. Why not acknowledge that both personalities have, and still are, battling with a serious condition.

Gail's condition, whilst not life threatening, could result in permanent hair loss. It took a lot of courage for a young woman, whose celebrity status was partially built on her appearance, to face the world without woman's so called 'crowing glory.'

Kylie's illness was life threatening, but she opted to wear a wig. Does that make her less courageous than Gail? I hardly think so.

Perhaps I'm more qualified than some to comment; I lost my hair through chemo. I donned a wig and discarded it when my hair was a similar length to Kylie's. That was my decision. Those who think it reflected on my attitude when fighting cancer, clearly haven't been in that position.

Mort Rainey · 18-06-2006, 20:34

I have so much admiration for Gail Porter. She also survived Post Natal Depression as well as her alopecia.

She's fortunate in that she's a pretty girl, she looks great bald. I think it would be even more difficult to put on a brave face if you had an odd shaped head or were a bit unattractive. I'd look like a complete moose if I went bald, I'd have to wear a wig or scarf!

blueblade · 18-06-2006, 22:42

Maybe when her Mother is lying in some hospital bed, looking awful through being desperately ill, Gail will remember her words.......

Terrence Chant · 18-06-2006, 23:05

I had to take my Nan to buy a wig.........the staff there were extremely sensitive, obviously they are used to serving people who have had chemotherapy, etc..........

To my eternal shame I had a fit of the giggles when she tried on the first toupee........looked like Rumpole Of The Bailey.........

podge1 · 18-06-2006, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Terrence Chant

I had to take my Nan to buy a wig.........the staff there were extremely sensitive, obviously they are used to serving people who have had chemotherapy, etc..........

To my eternal shame I had a fit of the giggles when she tried on the first toupee........looked like Rumpole Of The Bailey.........

Don't feel ashamed - I insisted on trying on the clearly unsuitable and giggling; reminded me of trying on equally unflattering hats in BHS and falling about laughing. Little did I know!

Terrence Chant · 18-06-2006, 23:18

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Originally Posted by podge1

Don't feel ashamed - I insisted on trying on the clearly unsuitable and giggling; reminded me of trying on equally unflattering hats in BHS and falling about laughing. Little did I know!

Thanks. I sincerely hope you are better now.

podge1 · 18-06-2006, 23:22

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Originally Posted by Terrence Chant

Thanks. I sincerely hope you are better now.

eight years ago I was given a 50/50 chance of surviving 12 months and 5% chance of living for 5 years or more. I'm still here - with hair and my consultant gave me the all clear last year.

Terrence Chant · 18-06-2006, 23:31

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Originally Posted by podge1

eight years ago I was given a 50/50 chance of surviving 12 months and 5% chance of living for 5 years or more. I'm still here - with hair and my consultant gave me the all clear last year.

That's tremendous news.........sadly, my Mother has incurable cancer so it's a subject close to my heart. On the plus side, it's slow growing, so hopefully she'll be with us for a long time yet.

I wish you well.

18-06-2006, 19:31	#1
Jean Luc Picard Posts: n/a	So much for unconditional love. Read an article in one of the free magazines they give away in the Sunday papers, about Gail Porter and her alopocia. It says that Gail's mother is having a hard time coping with her baldness, and sometimes cannot even stand to look at her. So much for unconditional love and caring for your children, come what may. It's a good job Gail didn't suffer some really bad disfigurement, such as facial burns. There are so very shallow people in this world.

18-06-2006, 19:34	#2
Peachie Banned User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cuddling Cain Services: PM me for hourly rate ;) Posts: 3,830	She can't bear to look at her own child, purely because she has no hair? Pffft, what a saddo. No other word for it. It must be hard to come to terms with the fact your daughter has an illness, granted, but that is so unbelievably shallow. What difference does a bit of hair make in the grand scheme of things?

18-06-2006, 19:38	#4
batdude_uk1 Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 16,458	I think that if this is true, then it shows how very shallow indeed her mother is. A mother should love her siblings now matter what they look or act like.

18-06-2006, 19:39	#5
ILoveMyDog Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Female Location: Malcolm Tucker's Office Services: Dog Grooming and Walking Posts: 2,625	Wow how sad How horrible to not have support from your own Mother Gail seems to be coping ok with it now though, after all her troubles

18-06-2006, 19:41	#6
conzer16 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Republic of Ireland Posts: 1,377	I think that when she says she cannot stand to look at her, that she actually means she finds it hard to look at her - it breaks her heart. A mother and father will normally love their child with all the love they can give. Parents can be heartbroken to see their children suffering, in trouble, upset, struggling etc. Thats how i would read that article.

18-06-2006, 19:44	#7
Collette Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Schmocation Posts: 3,777	I agree with Conzer - maybe it's not worded that well but merely suggests that it's heartbreaking seeing the happy, vivacious child she used to know suffering with a condition that has no real chance of being cured?

18-06-2006, 19:52	#9
Collette Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Schmocation Posts: 3,777	She has - she's gone up so much in my opinion since the days when she was projected onto the houses of parliament (was it there - I forget?!) and supposedly gorgeous. She seems so much more human nowadays and more like a real person which automatically makes her (in my opinion) far more attractive.

18-06-2006, 19:58	#12
Joe'sgirl Banned User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: away from the madding crowd Services: reserved for an elite group Posts: 8,713	I haven't read the article, but I could believe a mother's harbouring less than maternal feelings about her daughter, but not broadcasting them in some rag!

18-06-2006, 20:09	#14
me@home Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Services: grumpiness with a smile Posts: 6,816	GP just had a special on TV a couple of weeks ago about her alopoecia. In it she went home to Scotland to visit her mother with her daughter. Her mother seemed to accept it then and was very loving to GP. I wonder if the article was really quoting her mother or just a piece of fiction.

18-06-2006, 20:16	#16
ILoveMyDog Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Female Location: Malcolm Tucker's Office Services: Dog Grooming and Walking Posts: 2,625	She seems so "real" now, like Collette said above. And the fact she won't hide who she is is so encouraging, someone to look up to I say

18-06-2006, 20:34	#19
Mort Rainey Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,542	I have so much admiration for Gail Porter. She also survived Post Natal Depression as well as her alopecia. She's fortunate in that she's a pretty girl, she looks great bald. I think it would be even more difficult to put on a brave face if you had an odd shaped head or were a bit unattractive. I'd look like a complete moose if I went bald, I'd have to wear a wig or scarf!

18-06-2006, 22:42	#20
blueblade Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex Services: Sky HD, VM broadband Posts: 37,388	Maybe when her Mother is lying in some hospital bed, looking awful through being desperately ill, Gail will remember her words.......

18-06-2006, 23:05	#21
Terrence Chant Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Male Location: Wantage Posts: 36,816	I had to take my Nan to buy a wig.........the staff there were extremely sensitive, obviously they are used to serving people who have had chemotherapy, etc.......... To my eternal shame I had a fit of the giggles when she tried on the first toupee........looked like Rumpole Of The Bailey.........