Corrie shoots itself in foot with fake cancer story - Soaps

hotpotato · 09-12-2006, 00:08

I have just read that Cilla's cancer is treated as curable but she doesn't tell anyone and gloats while everyone else thinks she is terminally ill. As someone who lost their nearest to cancer I really think this is despicable, it will obviously be treated as a knockabout comedy interspersed with those interminable Norris/Rita scenes. Vile Granada.

Jalabert · 09-12-2006, 00:20

The character Cilla is the reason I don't watch Corrie anymore. She is vile. I've watched since the '60s.

Tizzy · 09-12-2006, 00:20

This isn't the first time this kind of "trick" has been used in soaps (Angie, in Eastenders for instance). I sincerely hope the storyline isn't used in any comedy kind of way.

But when you think of Cilla's track record so far it is the kind of thing she might do. She's a barefaced liar, her children grew up in care and her selfishness knows no bounds. Nothing good could come of her taking this sort of action.

I know how raw these feelings can be. I also lost two close friends to cancer this year. I'm so sorry to hear of your loss.

gregrichards · 09-12-2006, 00:23

I think Corrie are really making her character into a right shambles. On one side the show her to be devious, vile tart on the other she has moments of sincerity and tries to be human. I dont get it at all.

lookslikefun · 09-12-2006, 00:25

It's not the first time a soap has done it, in fact, it's happening right now in EastEnders. I understand that you feel it's rather insensitive, but I doubt it will be treated as a comedy storyline. Things like this happen in real life. And it is staying true to the character of Cilla.

Having said that, it's a shame that they're going down this route with Cilla. I thought they were changing the character for the better...

skp20040 · 09-12-2006, 00:44

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Originally Posted by lookslikefun

Having said that, it's a shame that they're going down this route with Cilla. I thought they were changing the character for the better...

Exactly what I thought. Well maybe not change the character for the better, but to show that however big your ego is , however hard you might be , we are none of us immune to such diseases.

I do hope that if they go down the this line of her not telling the truth that the story reflects the consequences of such lies such as people abandoning her.

SULLA · 09-12-2006, 01:10

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Originally Posted by lookslikefun

Having said that, it's a shame that they're going down this route with Cilla. I thought they were changing the character for the better...

Not possible

Elsie Tanner · 09-12-2006, 03:08

Why not cast judgement when we have seen the story actually on screen?

CRIM NO1 · 09-12-2006, 07:22

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Originally Posted by Elsie Tanner

Why not cast judgement when we have seen the story actually on screen?

Agreed!
Corrie, or the writers for that matter are not making a joke about the condition, and also there is a long way for the story to go. As Elsie said, watch it unfold and then be judgemental.

5 a day · 09-12-2006, 08:06

Errr...I thought this was a STORY in a fictional show?

Do people feel as strongly when someone is murdered in these programmes?

Thumbolina · 09-12-2006, 08:40

I've read the spoilers about this story line and from what I read I think the writers are showing Cilla as the nasty person she is but after it gets out of hand she regrets her con.

It's in the Christmas TV Times.

Sooz · 09-12-2006, 08:52

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Originally Posted by pconno1

Errr...I thought this was a STORY in a fictional show?

Do people feel as strongly when someone is murdered in these programmes?

If someone close to them was murdered then I would guess so!!

It might be a STORY but the situation is real, perhaps you have been very lucky and not experienced that in your life, but as someone who has, its always going to be an insensitive subject when you've had to watch a loved one slowly slip away and a soap then trivialises it.

5 a day · 09-12-2006, 09:01

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Originally Posted by Sooz

If someone close to them was murdered then I would guess so!!

It might be a STORY but the situation is real, perhaps you have been very lucky and not experienced that in your life, but as someone who has, its always going to be an insensitive subject when you've had to watch a loved one slowly slip away and a soap then trivialises it.

I appreciate that, but surely a lot of the stories that soaps deal with these days are going to 'hit home' with somebody at some level? Soaps trivialise everything they deal with, given the number of storylines they get through.

CRIM NO1 · 09-12-2006, 09:27

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Originally Posted by pconno1

I appreciate that, but surely a lot of the stories that soaps deal with these days are going to 'hit home' with somebody at some level? Soaps trivialise everything they deal with, given the number of storylines they get through.

Define trivialise! I dont watch Enders but I believe their Down Syndrome baby story hasnt become a pantomine. Claire in Corrie over the summer suffering from PMT was hardly a joke to watch, and Cilla being as big and loud (and remember it is a character) as she is, can still be struck down with any condition, and no way have the writers trivialised it

5 a day · 09-12-2006, 09:35

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Originally Posted by CRIM NO1

Define trivialise! I dont watch Enders but I believe their Down Syndrome baby story hasnt become a pantomine. Claire in Corrie over the summer suffering from PMT was hardly a joke to watch, and Cilla being as big and loud (and remember it is a character) as she is, can still be struck down with any condition, and no way have the writers trivialised it

I mean that usually, these stories are given so much airtime, then either completely forgotten about, or mentioned briefly in passing once every few months (Claire's condition being an example - wasn't it post-natal depression?).

I'm not blaming soaps, but the stories they show need to be taken with a large pinch of salt, and not treated as a medical guide, or a public information film, on the subjects them cover.

scone · 09-12-2006, 09:46

I thought Bruce Jones was getting the sack for his racist comments, or has he been let off? Without Les, there is no point to Cilla so this story wouldnt go ahead.

CRIM NO1 · 09-12-2006, 09:51

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Originally Posted by pconno1

I mean that usually, these stories are given so much airtime, then either completely forgotten about, or mentioned briefly in passing once every few months (Claire's condition being an example - wasn't it post-natal depression?).

I'm not blaming soaps, but the stories they show need to be taken with a large pinch of salt, and not treated as a medical guide, or a public information film, on the subjects them cover.

Firstly you are blaming soaps because you think Cilla's condition (a character just so you know) is being trivialised, and then you are saying the story ends within a passing moment without enough airtime.

Within some of these "trivialised" stories there is a little bit of education. Womens Aid was unindated the length of time the Charlie/Shelly story was aired on Corrie, and that is just one example

CRIM NO1 · 09-12-2006, 09:52

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Originally Posted by scone

I thought Bruce Jones was getting the sack for his racist comments, or has he been let off? Without Les, there is no point to Cilla so this story wouldnt go ahead.

His scenes for the next 6 weeks have been filmed

Butters · 09-12-2006, 09:54

I must admit, I don't like this route in Cilla's cancer story.

scone · 09-12-2006, 10:01

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Originally Posted by CRIM NO1

His scenes for the next 6 weeks have been filmed

I know, the story can start, but wouldn't run for a long time, if he was sacked, the less i see of les the better, such an appalling actor.

Mirage · 09-12-2006, 11:31

If they proceed with this storyline, it could give them a way to axe Cilla, Les or all of them.

Now I haven't read many spoilers, so forgive me if I get the basic story wrong. Cilla is cured of her skin cancer, but pretends it is terminal. It is very obvious she will be found out and I think when the truth comes out, the neighbours are never going to forgive and forget. I can imagine the street really turning on her/them. From bricks or whatever being thrown through their windows, paint sprayed on their house, to being totally blanked by everyone. Cilla walking down the street and every single person, including Yana turning their backs on her.

The pressure from that alone could split her and Les up and he leaves/she leaves/they leave, or it could continue until the next street upset comes along and distracts everyone.

Of course they could always be found out to be pulling a fast one and then later on, Cilla's cancer returns and nobody will take any notice, as she will be like the boy who cried wolf!

There are endless possibilities to the storyline that don't mean it has to go down a comedy route. It would be nice to see it take another course, as we all expect Cilla/Les things to go down the comedy road.

CRIM NO1 · 09-12-2006, 11:40

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Originally Posted by Mirage

If they proceed with this storyline, it could give them a way to axe Cilla, Les or all of them.

Now I haven't read many spoilers, so forgive me if I get the basic story wrong. Cilla is cured of her skin cancer, but pretends it is terminal. It is very obvious she will be found out and I think when the truth comes out, the neighbours are never going to forgive and forget. I can imagine the street really turning on her/them. From bricks or whatever being thrown through their windows, paint sprayed on their house, to being totally blanked by everyone. Cilla walking down the street and every single person, including Yana turning their backs on her.

The pressure from that alone could split her and Les up and he leaves/she leaves/they leave, or it could continue until the next street upset comes along and distracts everyone.

Of course they could always be found out to be pulling a fast one and then later on, Cilla's cancer returns and nobody will take any notice, as she will be like the boy who cried wolf!

There are endless possibilities to the storyline that don't mean it has to go down a comedy route. It would be nice to see it take another course, as we all expect Cilla/Les things to go down the comedy road.

There is no comedy route

kania · 09-12-2006, 12:02

I can understand the storyline of someone making something up like being ill with cancer as a spur of the moment thing, to excuse their behaviour or to get out of some predicament, but not a storyline of someone who is recovering from cancer and saying it is terminal, after all you wouldn't want to tempt fate.

I don't think they'll make it into a joke though, surely the writers realise what a sensitive issue the subject is?

hattersfan · 09-12-2006, 12:11

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Originally Posted by CRIM NO1

Define trivialise! I dont watch Enders but I believe their Down Syndrome baby story hasnt become a pantomine. Claire in Corrie over the summer suffering from PMT was hardly a joke to watch, and Cilla being as big and loud (and remember it is a character) as she is, can still be struck down with any condition, and no way have the writers trivialised it

PMT? Blimey, I think it was a bit more than that! Mind you, she did get over it in about three weeks and if she starts acting oddly towards young Fred again then all Ashley needs to do is rub his wife's tuimmy and buy her chocolate rather than have her sectioned under the Mental Health Act.

CRIM NO1 · 09-12-2006, 12:12

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Originally Posted by kania

I can understand the storyline of someone making something up like being ill with cancer as a spur of the moment thing, to excuse their behaviour or to get out of some predicament, but not a storyline of someone who is recovering from cancer and saying it is terminal, after all you wouldn't want to tempt fate.

I don't think they'll make it into a joke though, surely the writers realise what a sensitive issue the subject is?

I think that is why Cilla is the one that has the issue. You can put as much slap on your face and show off your wears, but still end up with life threatening conditions

09-12-2006, 00:08	#1
hotpotato Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,904	Corrie shoots itself in foot with fake cancer story I have just read that Cilla's cancer is treated as curable but she doesn't tell anyone and gloats while everyone else thinks she is terminally ill. As someone who lost their nearest to cancer I really think this is despicable, it will obviously be treated as a knockabout comedy interspersed with those interminable Norris/Rita scenes. Vile Granada.

09-12-2006, 11:31	#21
Mirage Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Hampshire Services: Sky HD, Virgin TV, Virgin 20MB Broadband Posts: 24,345	If they proceed with this storyline, it could give them a way to axe Cilla, Les or all of them. Now I haven't read many spoilers, so forgive me if I get the basic story wrong. Cilla is cured of her skin cancer, but pretends it is terminal. It is very obvious she will be found out and I think when the truth comes out, the neighbours are never going to forgive and forget. I can imagine the street really turning on her/them. From bricks or whatever being thrown through their windows, paint sprayed on their house, to being totally blanked by everyone. Cilla walking down the street and every single person, including Yana turning their backs on her. The pressure from that alone could split her and Les up and he leaves/she leaves/they leave, or it could continue until the next street upset comes along and distracts everyone. Of course they could always be found out to be pulling a fast one and then later on, Cilla's cancer returns and nobody will take any notice, as she will be like the boy who cried wolf! There are endless possibilities to the storyline that don't mean it has to go down a comedy route. It would be nice to see it take another course, as we all expect Cilla/Les things to go down the comedy road. Last edited by Mirage : 09-12-2006 at 11:33.

09-12-2006, 00:20	#2
Jalabert Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,096	The character Cilla is the reason I don't watch Corrie anymore. She is vile. I've watched since the '60s.

09-12-2006, 00:20	#3
Tizzy Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: On t'case Services: Searching for Emmerdale pets Posts: 14,906	This isn't the first time this kind of "trick" has been used in soaps (Angie, in Eastenders for instance). I sincerely hope the storyline isn't used in any comedy kind of way. But when you think of Cilla's track record so far it is the kind of thing she might do. She's a barefaced liar, her children grew up in care and her selfishness knows no bounds. Nothing good could come of her taking this sort of action. I know how raw these feelings can be. I also lost two close friends to cancer this year. I'm so sorry to hear of your loss.

09-12-2006, 00:23	#4
gregrichards Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 762	I think Corrie are really making her character into a right shambles. On one side the show her to be devious, vile tart on the other she has moments of sincerity and tries to be human. I dont get it at all.

09-12-2006, 00:25	#5
lookslikefun Banned User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 57	It's not the first time a soap has done it, in fact, it's happening right now in EastEnders. I understand that you feel it's rather insensitive, but I doubt it will be treated as a comedy storyline. Things like this happen in real life. And it is staying true to the character of Cilla. Having said that, it's a shame that they're going down this route with Cilla. I thought they were changing the character for the better...

09-12-2006, 03:08	#8
Elsie Tanner Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Portugal Posts: 5,025	Why not cast judgement when we have seen the story actually on screen?

09-12-2006, 08:06	#10
5 a day Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 11,770	Errr...I thought this was a STORY in a fictional show? Do people feel as strongly when someone is murdered in these programmes?

09-12-2006, 08:40	#11
Thumbolina Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 1,893	I've read the spoilers about this story line and from what I read I think the writers are showing Cilla as the nasty person she is but after it gets out of hand she regrets her con. It's in the Christmas TV Times.

09-12-2006, 09:46	#16
scone Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 7,082	I thought Bruce Jones was getting the sack for his racist comments, or has he been let off? Without Les, there is no point to Cilla so this story wouldnt go ahead.

09-12-2006, 09:54	#19
Butters Banned User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3,111	I must admit, I don't like this route in Cilla's cancer story.

09-12-2006, 12:02	#23
kania Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Female Location: Hull Services: Karoo Posts: 4,148	I can understand the storyline of someone making something up like being ill with cancer as a spur of the moment thing, to excuse their behaviour or to get out of some predicament, but not a storyline of someone who is recovering from cancer and saying it is terminal, after all you wouldn't want to tempt fate. I don't think they'll make it into a joke though, surely the writers realise what a sensitive issue the subject is?