Reid Heckler Under Arrest - General Discussion

UKMikey · 08-02-2007, 16:51

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6343109.stm

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Originally Posted by BBC News

Activist held under Terrorism Act

A Muslim activist has been arrested in east London over allegations of encouraging terrorism.

Abu Izzadeen was held by in Leyton High Road by counter-terrorism officers, Scotland Yard said.

He hit the headlines last September after heckling Home Secretary John Reid but it is understood the inquiry is related to a 2006 speech in Birmingham.

Mr Izzadeen is being held at a central London police station under Section 1 of the Terrorism Act 2006.

Good news for the anti-nutter brigade (of which I'm claiming membership

) - here's hoping this thread won't be hijacked by the anti-Muslim brigade though.

Perhaps we can all agree that dangerous nutters should be kept off of the streets, but I'm keen to hear your views, pro and con.

No, really.

Deep Purple · 08-02-2007, 17:26

He is a trouble maker, and no doubt incites others to his extreme views.

It is the likes of him that do cause problems between muslims and everyone else, but that is what he wants.

I hope there is a clamp down on these types, and I'm sure the vast majority of muslims would agree with that.

pickwick · 08-02-2007, 18:43

It sounds like he's a troublemaker given the groups he's affiliated to, but I hope they've got him on something more serious than what it quotes there, because nothing there justifies being arrested under the terrorism laws.

(Also, what's with that apostrophe in "The group's Mr Izzadeen has been associated with"?! Standards at the BBC today, I don't know...

)

UKMikey · 08-02-2007, 18:53

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Originally Posted by pickwick

It sounds like he's a troublemaker given the groups he's affiliated to, but I hope they've got him on something more serious than what it quotes there, because nothing there justifies being arrested under the terrorism laws.

I would hate for the case to have been prioritized simply because it happened to be Dr Reid that this man heckled.

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(Also, what's with that apostrophe in "The group's Mr Izzadeen has been associated with"?! Standards at the BBC today, I don't know...

)

Clearly the Beeb journalist was so apoplectic with rage at Izzadeen's rabble rousing that s/he couldn't type straight.

While one particular newspaper was more concerned with his multiple wives, I'm sure the police took his describing the 7/7 suicide bombers as "completely praiseworthy" and "the fantastic four" into account when deciding to arrest him.

08-02-2007, 18:55

(This dates to 2004)

http://www.familysecuritymatters.org....php?id=716208

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This man Abu Izzadeen was recorded saying: "Whoever allies himself with the Kaffirs (non-believers) against the believers - he is one of them. So those so-called enemies to Allah who join the British Government - 'cos remember the British Government, my dear Muslim brothers, are Crusaders... Crusaders come to kill and rape Muslims. Whoever joins them - he who joins the British Army, the American Army, he is a mortal kaffir and his only hukum (punishment) is for his head to be removed. Indeed, whoever changes his deen (Muslim code of life); kill him."

.. perhaps a link to the recent terrorism arrests in Birmingham

Histeria · 08-02-2007, 19:04

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Little is known of the activist's early life...

That's a dead givaway of a 'bad guy', that.

Deep Purple · 08-02-2007, 19:05

The news said earlier that is was believed to be related to something in Birmingham a few months ago.

skp20040 · 08-02-2007, 19:19

Well I am glad they have arrested him, the man gets right up my nose. He talks of free speach , but he does not let people have free speech himself , he interupts meetings and then by shouting forces people listen to his bile being spouted out .

As for arresting him upsetting the Muslim community , I feel the Muslim community is better off without someone like him, and if he and his fellow fanatics are so concerned about their community , why oh why do they work so much against them ?

I for one feel for the normal Muslim community having someone like that claiming to speak for them when he so obviosuly does not , the man is an embarrassment to any one .

oulandy · 08-02-2007, 19:36

Breaking News:

BBC hires greengrocer to write its news reports. Apparently they interviewed the wrong person and the error didn't come to light until it was too late.

It is understood that this person is responsible for a loose apostrophe that has been circling the BBC. It is not known whether the same person is the source of the plethora of 'rooves' every time the BBC has to report on natural disasters or architectural features.

<only joking: this is not a true story>

Prince Monalulu · 08-02-2007, 20:09

Hopefully they can get rid of that other numbnut from Al Muhajiroun.

Lets be honest all that talk of free speech and general rabble rousing is intended to get up people's noses.
What they're really after is to inflame things hopefully to the point where there are random violent attacks against Muslim's.
They'll then use that to further the 'war against Islam' line, as far as this lot are concerned end justifies the means.

IIRC the Apostate argument was used in Algeria when they were blowing up people in the streets.
If you didn't support them you were and Apostate, therefore legitimate target.

About time Channel 4 repeated Sharia TV and trailed it a bit more, get to see there as many different views and debates going on in Islam as there are in other religions.

Deep Purple · 09-02-2007, 09:54

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...250764,00.html

The man who barracked Home Secretary John Reid in front of television news cameras last year will appear in court today charged with encouraging terrorism.

Abu Izzadeen, 31, is to attend Westminster Magistrates' Court under his original name of Omar Brooks.

Izzadeen, of no fixed abode, is accused of giving a speech in Birmingham last year in which he allegedly glorified terrorism.

He heckled Mr Reid in September, while the Home Secretary addressed a 30-strong group of Muslims at Leyton.

But Izzadeen's alleged illegal speech apparently pre-dates the widely publicised incident.

Radical Muslim leader Anjem Choudhury responded to news of Izzadeen's arrest by saying that Muslims were now the subject of a "witchhunt".

I'm pleased he's been charged. He's been spouting his hatred for long enough. The likes of him, and Choudhury are the cause of much tension between communities.

Deep Purple · 24-04-2007, 10:24

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6586819.stm

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Six men have been arrested on suspicion of incitement offences by anti-terror officers from the Metropolitan Police.
They include Abu Izzadeen, also known as Omar Brooks, who made headlines when he heckled Home Secretary John Reid at an event last year

Izzadeen has been arrested again under the Terrorism Act, along with five others.

I didn't realise he'd been bailed after his last charge, but it's good to see these cases are still being investigated thoroughly.

Media77 · 24-04-2007, 11:39

What ever happened free speech?

Deep Purple · 27-04-2007, 08:16

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Originally Posted by Media77

What ever happened free speech?

Not sure his arrest has anything to do free speech!

08-02-2007, 19:19	#8
skp20040 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Central London Services: Top Up Tv Anytime/Freeview/Bt Business Total Broadband Posts: 19,020	Well I am glad they have arrested him, the man gets right up my nose. He talks of free speach , but he does not let people have free speech himself , he interupts meetings and then by shouting forces people listen to his bile being spouted out . As for arresting him upsetting the Muslim community , I feel the Muslim community is better off without someone like him, and if he and his fellow fanatics are so concerned about their community , why oh why do they work so much against them ? I for one feel for the normal Muslim community having someone like that claiming to speak for them when he so obviosuly does not , the man is an embarrassment to any one . Last edited by skp20040 : 08-02-2007 at 19:45.

08-02-2007, 17:26	#2
Deep Purple Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,184	He is a trouble maker, and no doubt incites others to his extreme views. It is the likes of him that do cause problems between muslims and everyone else, but that is what he wants. I hope there is a clamp down on these types, and I'm sure the vast majority of muslims would agree with that.

08-02-2007, 18:43	#3
pickwick Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Gender: Female Location: a wretched hive Services: scum and liberalism Posts: 14,527 Blog Entries: 1	It sounds like he's a troublemaker given the groups he's affiliated to, but I hope they've got him on something more serious than what it quotes there, because nothing there justifies being arrested under the terrorism laws. (Also, what's with that apostrophe in "The group's Mr Izzadeen has been associated with"?! Standards at the BBC today, I don't know... )

08-02-2007, 19:05	#7
Deep Purple Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,184	The news said earlier that is was believed to be related to something in Birmingham a few months ago.

08-02-2007, 19:36	#9
oulandy Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,988	Breaking News: BBC hires greengrocer to write its news reports. Apparently they interviewed the wrong person and the error didn't come to light until it was too late. It is understood that this person is responsible for a loose apostrophe that has been circling the BBC. It is not known whether the same person is the source of the plethora of 'rooves' every time the BBC has to report on natural disasters or architectural features. <only joking: this is not a true story>

08-02-2007, 20:09	#10
Prince Monalulu Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 10,933	Hopefully they can get rid of that other numbnut from Al Muhajiroun. Lets be honest all that talk of free speech and general rabble rousing is intended to get up people's noses. What they're really after is to inflame things hopefully to the point where there are random violent attacks against Muslim's. They'll then use that to further the 'war against Islam' line, as far as this lot are concerned end justifies the means. IIRC the Apostate argument was used in Algeria when they were blowing up people in the streets. If you didn't support them you were and Apostate, therefore legitimate target. About time Channel 4 repeated Sharia TV and trailed it a bit more, get to see there as many different views and debates going on in Islam as there are in other religions.

09-02-2007, 09:54	#11
Deep Purple Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,184	http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...250764,00.html The man who barracked Home Secretary John Reid in front of television news cameras last year will appear in court today charged with encouraging terrorism. Abu Izzadeen, 31, is to attend Westminster Magistrates' Court under his original name of Omar Brooks. Izzadeen, of no fixed abode, is accused of giving a speech in Birmingham last year in which he allegedly glorified terrorism. He heckled Mr Reid in September, while the Home Secretary addressed a 30-strong group of Muslims at Leyton. But Izzadeen's alleged illegal speech apparently pre-dates the widely publicised incident. Radical Muslim leader Anjem Choudhury responded to news of Izzadeen's arrest by saying that Muslims were now the subject of a "witchhunt". I'm pleased he's been charged. He's been spouting his hatred for long enough. The likes of him, and Choudhury are the cause of much tension between communities.

24-04-2007, 11:39	#13
Media77 Banned User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Ireland Services: Irish Broadband and Sky Posts: 774	What ever happened free speech?