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Old 12-02-2007, 12:35   #1
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Poor reception on new tv

Hi all, set up the new tv on Saturday (Matsui 32" lcd) but have found the reception to be very poor / lots of interference / scrolling lines etc, on all channels except channel5 and the sat channels. The aeriel is only an old loop thing off some 14" set - will I need to upgrade it? Set-up is as follows - Aeriel is in the sat box with coax to dvdr then tv, scart tv1 to sat / scart tv2 to dvdr/ scart sat to dvdr.
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Old 12-02-2007, 13:32   #2
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if i was you would try using a metal coat hanger
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Old 12-02-2007, 14:34   #3
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A decent aerial is certainly a must be it for analogue or digital terrestrial, granted it's amazing what you can get away with at times but different TV tuners react differently.

Channels via satellite are obviously not affected by terrestrial reception.
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Old 12-02-2007, 15:16   #4
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Crucially, what size TV did you have before?

Channel Five can act anomously. It will come (generally) from a local transmitter, quite seperate from the other terretrial channels. This is possibly why you can pick it up, and not the others.

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Old 12-02-2007, 15:20   #5
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oh dear... lcd tv... not good.
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Old 12-02-2007, 15:59   #6
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Hi Dan,
Had a 21" crt then got a 19" lcd, now the 32" lcd.
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Old 12-02-2007, 16:25   #7
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As has been mentioned, different TV's will react to a signal in different way, some will be more sensitive than others.

However, the visible screen size of a 21" crt is going to be about the same as a 19" LCD. (a glass crt's screen size is quoted as absolute diagonal, but there is some masking giving a "visible screen size")

You are jumping up by such a screen size (nearly double) that this will have an affect.

Think about a newspaper picture. It's made of dots. The further away you look, the clearer it becomes.

Jumping up by such a screen size is like magnifying a newspaper picture. Any flaw in the picture will be magnified.

You really need a decent aerial. Relatively not much cost. However, when you do get one, you will be treated to a picture that will blow your socks off. Especially if you are only used to watching via a portable aerial.

Go on. Treat yourself.

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Old 12-02-2007, 16:43   #8
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oh dear... lcd tv... not good.
Load of rubbish! Then again, Tractor country.
Hardly helpfull to OP. LCD is great. you need to upgrade your aerial set up though. Old loop aerial is not really getting the best from the set....

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Old 12-02-2007, 16:46   #9
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You really need a decent aerial. Relatively not much cost. However, when you do get one, you will be treated to a picture that will blow your socks off. Especially if you are only used to watching via a portable aerial.

Go on. Treat yourself.

Dan
Cheers Dan will get one tomorrow and let you know the outcome.
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Old 12-02-2007, 20:39   #10
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How snowy (or not) was the picture before on the previous tv.

Could it be that this new tv is tuning into signals more distant (weaker) signals rather than the stronger, closer signals? This is the situation where its possible to pick up duplicate stations from other transmitters.

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Old 13-02-2007, 17:09   #11
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Bought a new aerial from Maplins - amplifies up to 40db so fingers crossed for tonight
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Old 14-02-2007, 10:01   #12
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Ok ut new aerial on last night - a 1forAll amplified to 40db - but has made very little if any difference. I've switched it to Internal and External but still loads of interference on all channels.
Now I've noticed there's an aerial on the roof with a coax cable coming into one of the ground floor rooms. If I get that tested out to see its working does it carry to all rooms in the house or do I have to cable it thru to each room seperately?
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Old 14-02-2007, 11:10   #13
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scrolling lines is interference with your scart cables. get oxygen free scart cables for £20

snow is aerial is out of position/ poor reception.

get a digital aerial

i think ive been here before with you?
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Old 14-02-2007, 11:12   #14
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Old 14-02-2007, 11:15   #15
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i think ive been here before with you?
You have indeed Niall, all 3 scarts are oxygen free as per your previous advice. Only thing I've changed is adding the 3rd scart, as this tv has 2 scart sockets, the previous only had 1.

It's now snowy picture all over, sometimes b&w, I'd be happy to have just a few scrolling lines!
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Old 14-02-2007, 11:19   #16
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well you need to get an aerial guy out. get him to put new aerial up and run wf-100 cable from it. your existing cable may do ok for you.

it all depends if you watch enough tv via your satellite or normal aerial

what about sky+ record one watch another?
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Old 14-02-2007, 11:23   #17
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I haven't got sky+, it's just a sat box that picks up fta channels on hotbird.

Cheers Niall I'll get someone out to have a look.
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Old 14-02-2007, 17:41   #18
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Hi Campioni06
Now please do forgive me if I am wrong, as when I get new items of equipment, and I have any problems with them.

I want them sorted out straight away etc. etc.

But from the problems that you describe, I don't think it is anything to do with your aerial.

All the equipment I have got, have something called an RF frequency, which you can change.

The RF frequency, of equipment, can cause something called Clashing/Interferrence.

It should have something about the RF frequency, in the instruction books, that you have[Satallite/DVD/TV].

However, please do not assume, that it is the TV that you have to change, it will probably be the Satalite or DVD.

What I would advise, is to adjust the frequency a couple of numbers at a time[remember the original/preset frequency], and keep checking your TV and DVD picture on all channels etc.

This is because, if once you get a good picture, say on BBC 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5. You tend to think, brilliant it is sorted out. Then when you check Satallite and DVD channel, annoyingly, it is just your luck, one of them is affected etc.

Do try this first, before getting a new aerial, I do appologise if it is not this, as again I know just how frustrating it is with wanting to get something new working and sorted out.

Then you ring up loads of helplines etc, and just get pushed from piller to post.

Good Luck!.
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Old 14-02-2007, 17:48   #19
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Thanks Lee, appreciate your advice. Giving myself till the weekend to try and sort it myself, if not then I'll call someone in. Will give that a go, though I doubt it will be tonight
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Old 15-02-2007, 10:26   #20
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Hi Campioni06
Now please do forgive me if I am wrong, as when I get new items of equipment, and I have any problems with them.

I want them sorted out straight away etc. etc.

But from the problems that you describe, I don't think it is anything to do with your aerial.

All the equipment I have got, have something called an RF frequency, which you can change.

The RF frequency, of equipment, can cause something called Clashing/Interferrence.

It should have something about the RF frequency, in the instruction books, that you have[Satallite/DVD/TV].

However, please do not assume, that it is the TV that you have to change, it will probably be the Satalite or DVD.

What I would advise, is to adjust the frequency a couple of numbers at a time[remember the original/preset frequency], and keep checking your TV and DVD picture on all channels etc.

This is because, if once you get a good picture, say on BBC 1, 2, 3, 4 or 5. You tend to think, brilliant it is sorted out. Then when you check Satallite and DVD channel, annoyingly, it is just your luck, one of them is affected etc.

Do try this first, before getting a new aerial, I do appologise if it is not this, as again I know just how frustrating it is with wanting to get something new working and sorted out.

Then you ring up loads of helplines etc, and just get pushed from piller to post.

Good Luck!.

we have tried it before and its not the equipment
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Old 15-02-2007, 11:42   #21
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Now I've noticed there's an aerial on the roof with a coax cable coming into one of the ground floor rooms. If I get that tested out to see its working does it carry to all rooms in the house or do I have to cable it thru to each room seperately?
Ah! When I mentioned getting an aerial installed I meant a rooftop.

Have you tried connecting any equipment to the aerial? Is it possible just to take the TV to the aerial socket connnected to the wall?

If it shows a vast improvement, then you know it is working.

As for providing each room, that brings in the issue of amplifiers etc (not costly, just time consuming to do).

Of course this may be already done. Is it a new build house. Are there aerial sockets in each room?

Dan
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Old 15-02-2007, 11:56   #22
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Ah! When I mentioned getting an aerial installed I meant a rooftop.

Have you tried connecting any equipment to the aerial? Is it possible just to take the TV to the aerial socket connnected to the wall?

If it shows a vast improvement, then you know it is working.

As for providing each room, that brings in the issue of amplifiers etc (not costly, just time consuming to do).

Of course this may be already done. Is it a new build house. Are there aerial sockets in each room?

Dan
No its a fairly old house, only has the external cable coming in to one room. Tried a different telly on the external aerial last night and made no difference compared to the set-top aerial its got.
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