gillian mkieth, chocolate cake & vegetarians?? - TV Programmes

MOODYSU · 07-03-2007, 07:31

its not very often i shout at the tv but last night gillian mkieth came out with the most stupid comment i have ever heard. what does chocolate cake have to do with being a vegetarian or working in a vegetarian cafe/restraunt?? as far as i know chocolate cake does not contain meet, it may contain gelatine. but some vegetarians eat gelatine. gillian made it sound like vegetarians are people who like her are like her! health obsessed and are connstantly on check of there food. vegetarians dont eat meat, wake up gillian, that doesnt mean they all live on lentils and bananas.

i am a vegetarian, only because i cant stomach meet, i sick it back up again so i cant eat it full stop, but the likes of chocolate cake and others i can eat, yes i know chocolate cake is unhealthy but gillian mad eout if eating chocolate cake in a vegetarian place was a major crime. i cant see why? yes the woman shouldnt have been eating as much cake but what has that got to do with vegetarians?

rant over sorry

topdoris · 07-03-2007, 07:46

I wouldn't take an ounce of notice of what that woman says. She talks absolute rubbish and gets paid for it.

Her ethos is: eat more greens and exercise, except she likes to dress it up as some wonderful diet, along with her fake Phd to make her seem more important than she is. I wonder if C4 originally signed her up because she seemed to be highly qualified. I can't believe they'd advocate allowing some unqualified nutter to play around with peoples diets and health. It is very, very dangerous.

Just ask yourself this.... do YOU want to end up looking like her? No, thought not. Her hair looks dried up and her skin looks awful.

So ignore her programmes, don't buy her books and just eat better and move more. And, yes, you can afford to eat a little bit of chocolate cake if you like. Just do it in moderation.

I can't stand this woman. Can you tell?

Achtung · 07-03-2007, 07:53

So Gillian McKeith doesn't know anything about nutrition at all having studied and worked in this area for years?

Snikpoh · 07-03-2007, 08:16

And however you look at it, her methods get results.

MOODYSU · 07-03-2007, 08:19

im not questioning that, but what has chocolate cake got do do with being vegetarian, some one should remind gillian that its meat vegetarians dont eat!

Loz_Fraggle · 07-03-2007, 08:22

I highly doubt chocolate cake is non-veggie, non-vegan yes, but non-veggie no. I mean the only thing that could possibly contain gelatine is the icing, and if it's made with butter icing with cocoa powder, then that's defiantly veggie

MOODYSU · 07-03-2007, 08:24

if the woman had been eating a beef burger and gillian had gone "a beef burger in a vegetarian place blah blah blah" i could understand it, but chocolate cake? a chocolate cake with chocolate on top which may contain geletine, MAY, how does gillian know, can she tell just by looking?

dadioflex · 07-03-2007, 08:43

Ben Goldacre devotes a good deal of his science/medical column to her at:

http://www.badscience.net/

He's a Guardian columnist. I saw him on RTE's The Panel a few weeks back and have been following his blog ever since. His dead cat is a member of one of the same organisations as McKeith. All it took was for his cheque to clear.

EDIT: here's the McKeith specific section of the site:

http://www.badscience.net/?cat=12

dumdedum#1 · 07-03-2007, 09:25

its nothing to do with hter being veggie it was the fact that it was CHOCOLATE CAKE the only point about her being veggie was that she had the opportunity for healthy meals at her restaurant

Loubogroll · 07-03-2007, 09:29

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Originally Posted by MOODYSU

im not questioning that, but what has chocolate cake got do do with being vegetarian, some one should remind gillian that its meat vegetarians dont eat!

I saw that programme last night too and the point was that the fat woman worked in a health food restaurant (which happened to be a veggie one), but stuffed chocolate cake and fatty lattes down her throat all day. She didn't eat anything healthy and was therefore not a very good advertisement for the food she was serving.

The message wasn't that chocolate cake is not vegetarian, but that chocolate cake for breakfast, lunch, dinner and everything inbetween is very unhealthy and ironic given that she worked in a health food shop.

Crazydennis · 07-03-2007, 09:31

As Paul McKenna said about her: "If you are what you eat, what has she been eating? Gollum?"

Loubogroll · 07-03-2007, 09:33

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Originally Posted by Crazydennis

As Paul McKenna said about her: "If you are what you eat, what has she been eating? Gollum?"

Ha ha! Brilliant!

rolergirl · 07-03-2007, 10:12

im vegetarian,and i know that tesco chocolate cake DOES contain meat, pork and beef gelatine.

thecreepingmess · 07-03-2007, 10:17

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Originally Posted by Achtung

So Gillian McKeith doesn't know anything about nutrition at all having studied and worked in this area for years?

Not that she doesn't know anything; just that some of what she does know is fundamentally flawed (or completely wrong).

Tabbythecat · 07-03-2007, 10:19

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Originally Posted by thecreepingmess

Not that she doesn't know anything; just that some of what she does know is fundamentally flawed (or completely wrong).

I seem to think that the woman has completely lost the plot

Melanie858 · 07-03-2007, 11:13

She looks very gaunt and unhealthy, IMO. I wish she would focus on eating in moderation (including occaisonal treats) and make her diet regimes more accessible to the normal, everyday people!

airfix · 07-03-2007, 12:34

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Originally Posted by Achtung

So Gillian McKeith doesn't know anything about nutrition at all having studied and worked in this area for years?

Erm, why was she told to drop the Dr from her name if she is so well qualified?

She is just a haggard looking control freak who likes to sniff other peoples poo!

Sloopy · 07-03-2007, 12:35

I don't think she looks healthy either. She looks thin, drawn and pasty.

There is nothing wrong with striving to have a healthy diet but her rules are totally over the top. There is no way you could realistically keep to her restrictions in the long term.

Achtung · 07-03-2007, 13:09

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Originally Posted by airfix

control

I think that's the real reason some people don't like her, they kick off at the mere thought of someone taking charge of a situation. It's quite obvious that, in the obese society in which we live, many people don't have self-control otherwise they'd stop stuffing so much stodge down their throats. People like McKeith are needed to give others a kick up their backsides even if that does put her in the firing line.

Shrike · 07-03-2007, 15:57

I agree with Sloopy - long term people are just not going to stick with her regieme.

All people need to do is eat less calories & excercise more - but we all know that anyway so it would make dull telly.
(Not that seeing the witch queen looking at various fatty's poo is my idea of interesting telly!)

Achtung · 07-03-2007, 16:12

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Originally Posted by Shrike

All people need to do is eat less calories & excercise more

So like one chocolate cake instead of two?

Eating less calories is not the same as eating healthy food. McKeith talks about how you can get the most nutrition from your food, she doesn't promote "diets".

Loubogroll · 07-03-2007, 16:16

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Originally Posted by Achtung

So like one chocolate cake instead of two?

From Marjorie Dawes: half the cake is half the calories so you can have twice as much!

Radiomaniac · 07-03-2007, 16:22

This hideous turd-poking fake shouldn't be allowed on any TV screen on earth.

I'd rather weigh a ton than look like the scrawny, shrivelled, wrinkled, hunched-up old hag that she is. If that's healthy, give me fat, sugar and salt NOW.

No-one with any sense will listen to anything she says. To lose weight you need to eat less. Simple as that.

She's already been outed as a fake 'Doctor', her time is up now.

May Blossom · 07-03-2007, 16:31

Caught end of last night show when she actually followed two of the dieters at end of show. Assume these must be the 'best' or at least 'almost the best' of the last series. A year on & one had lost another half stone & the other had maintained their weight. Given that they were still overweight after the initial 8 weeks if they had really been able to change their diet to that outlined by McKeith then they would have continued to lose a lot more weight. It said to me - fad diet but not sustainable. Far more realistic to get people to adopt just a healthy diet which is actually doable on a life long basis.

MB

Badger Madge · 07-03-2007, 16:59

Totally. Anyone who says "yeah, but she gets results" obviously doesn't understand that "results" for most dieters/overweight people means sustainable results. Not just a reaching your goal weight in a matter of weeks only to put it all back (and more) again. Her diet of beans and lettuce for ever. That's just not possible for anyone to sustain (both mentally as well as economically).

My mum joined Weight Watchers a few years ago. She was a size 16 and went from a 16 to a 10 in a year. She lost the weight slowly but healthily through a balanced diet and going to the gym three times a week. She's now a healthy size 12 (we both thought she lost too much initially).

It's about a change for life, not just adopting a radical change for eight weeks and expecting it to last. My mum still eats healthily and goes to the gym. But she does have the odd treat now and then. I'm very proud of her!

07-03-2007, 07:46	#2
topdoris Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,158	I wouldn't take an ounce of notice of what that woman says. She talks absolute rubbish and gets paid for it. Her ethos is: eat more greens and exercise, except she likes to dress it up as some wonderful diet, along with her fake Phd to make her seem more important than she is. I wonder if C4 originally signed her up because she seemed to be highly qualified. I can't believe they'd advocate allowing some unqualified nutter to play around with peoples diets and health. It is very, very dangerous. Just ask yourself this.... do YOU want to end up looking like her? No, thought not. Her hair looks dried up and her skin looks awful. So ignore her programmes, don't buy her books and just eat better and move more. And, yes, you can afford to eat a little bit of chocolate cake if you like. Just do it in moderation. I can't stand this woman. Can you tell? Last edited by topdoris : 07-03-2007 at 07:47.

07-03-2007, 08:43	#8
dadioflex Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 851	Ben Goldacre devotes a good deal of his science/medical column to her at: http://www.badscience.net/ He's a Guardian columnist. I saw him on RTE's The Panel a few weeks back and have been following his blog ever since. His dead cat is a member of one of the same organisations as McKeith. All it took was for his cheque to clear. EDIT: here's the McKeith specific section of the site: http://www.badscience.net/?cat=12 Last edited by dadioflex : 07-03-2007 at 08:45.

07-03-2007, 16:22	#23
Radiomaniac Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Old Amsterdam Services: Cheese, Clogs, Tulips, Barrel Organ Posts: 18,517 Blog Entries: 2	This hideous turd-poking fake shouldn't be allowed on any TV screen on earth. I'd rather weigh a ton than look like the scrawny, shrivelled, wrinkled, hunched-up old hag that she is. If that's healthy, give me fat, sugar and salt NOW. No-one with any sense will listen to anything she says. To lose weight you need to eat less. Simple as that. She's already been outed as a fake 'Doctor', her time is up now. Last edited by Radiomaniac : 07-03-2007 at 16:24.

07-03-2007, 07:31	#1
MOODYSU Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hull & York Posts: 621	gillian mkieth, chocolate cake & vegetarians?? its not very often i shout at the tv but last night gillian mkieth came out with the most stupid comment i have ever heard. what does chocolate cake have to do with being a vegetarian or working in a vegetarian cafe/restraunt?? as far as i know chocolate cake does not contain meet, it may contain gelatine. but some vegetarians eat gelatine. gillian made it sound like vegetarians are people who like her are like her! health obsessed and are connstantly on check of there food. vegetarians dont eat meat, wake up gillian, that doesnt mean they all live on lentils and bananas. i am a vegetarian, only because i cant stomach meet, i sick it back up again so i cant eat it full stop, but the likes of chocolate cake and others i can eat, yes i know chocolate cake is unhealthy but gillian mad eout if eating chocolate cake in a vegetarian place was a major crime. i cant see why? yes the woman shouldnt have been eating as much cake but what has that got to do with vegetarians? rant over sorry

07-03-2007, 07:53	#3
Achtung Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 7,877	So Gillian McKeith doesn't know anything about nutrition at all having studied and worked in this area for years?

07-03-2007, 08:16	#4
Snikpoh Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,345	And however you look at it, her methods get results.

07-03-2007, 08:19	#5
MOODYSU Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hull & York Posts: 621	im not questioning that, but what has chocolate cake got do do with being vegetarian, some one should remind gillian that its meat vegetarians dont eat!

07-03-2007, 08:22	#6
Loz_Fraggle Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,513	I highly doubt chocolate cake is non-veggie, non-vegan yes, but non-veggie no. I mean the only thing that could possibly contain gelatine is the icing, and if it's made with butter icing with cocoa powder, then that's defiantly veggie

07-03-2007, 08:24	#7
MOODYSU Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Hull & York Posts: 621	if the woman had been eating a beef burger and gillian had gone "a beef burger in a vegetarian place blah blah blah" i could understand it, but chocolate cake? a chocolate cake with chocolate on top which may contain geletine, MAY, how does gillian know, can she tell just by looking?

07-03-2007, 09:25	#9
dumdedum#1 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 28	its nothing to do with hter being veggie it was the fact that it was CHOCOLATE CAKE the only point about her being veggie was that she had the opportunity for healthy meals at her restaurant

07-03-2007, 09:31	#11
Crazydennis Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 35	As Paul McKenna said about her: "If you are what you eat, what has she been eating? Gollum?"

07-03-2007, 10:12	#13
rolergirl Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,455	im vegetarian,and i know that tesco chocolate cake DOES contain meat, pork and beef gelatine.

07-03-2007, 11:13	#16
Melanie858 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Gender: Female Location: Canterbury Posts: 2,201	She looks very gaunt and unhealthy, IMO. I wish she would focus on eating in moderation (including occaisonal treats) and make her diet regimes more accessible to the normal, everyday people!

07-03-2007, 12:35	#18
Sloopy Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59,912	I don't think she looks healthy either. She looks thin, drawn and pasty. There is nothing wrong with striving to have a healthy diet but her rules are totally over the top. There is no way you could realistically keep to her restrictions in the long term.

07-03-2007, 15:57	#20
Shrike Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nottingham Posts: 3,230	I agree with Sloopy - long term people are just not going to stick with her regieme. All people need to do is eat less calories & excercise more - but we all know that anyway so it would make dull telly. (Not that seeing the witch queen looking at various fatty's poo is my idea of interesting telly!)

07-03-2007, 16:31	#24
May Blossom Banned User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 4,425	Caught end of last night show when she actually followed two of the dieters at end of show. Assume these must be the 'best' or at least 'almost the best' of the last series. A year on & one had lost another half stone & the other had maintained their weight. Given that they were still overweight after the initial 8 weeks if they had really been able to change their diet to that outlined by McKeith then they would have continued to lose a lot more weight. It said to me - fad diet but not sustainable. Far more realistic to get people to adopt just a healthy diet which is actually doable on a life long basis. MB

07-03-2007, 16:59	#25
Badger Madge Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 903	Totally. Anyone who says "yeah, but she gets results" obviously doesn't understand that "results" for most dieters/overweight people means sustainable results. Not just a reaching your goal weight in a matter of weeks only to put it all back (and more) again. Her diet of beans and lettuce for ever. That's just not possible for anyone to sustain (both mentally as well as economically). My mum joined Weight Watchers a few years ago. She was a size 16 and went from a 16 to a 10 in a year. She lost the weight slowly but healthily through a balanced diet and going to the gym three times a week. She's now a healthy size 12 (we both thought she lost too much initially). It's about a change for life, not just adopting a radical change for eight weeks and expecting it to last. My mum still eats healthily and goes to the gym. But she does have the odd treat now and then. I'm very proud of her!