Virgins letter arrived this morning - Cable

daveetwo · 04-04-2007, 08:27

Nice to see a timely letter about the broadband increase being rolled out in may.
Whats even better is that they actually state that certain modems may need upgrading.
When ntl brought out the 10mb i had endless arguments with them before writing to head office in hook and management got me a new modem within a couple of weeks.
I think this is a significant improvement.
(slightly soured by the fact that there is a charge to get a modem that copes with it but still a big improvement)
From the letter i see there is an updates page on the website which i hadnt noticed.

xyphic · 04-04-2007, 09:54

I got the letter early last week. They still haven't updated the website listed to say when it's rolling out or which modems are compatible.

kitano · 04-04-2007, 10:00

I had that letter the other week too.

Also received another yesterday mentioning the Sky channels again (saying they were putting money into other things now) - arrived with a card added listing the 1p promotion films you could vote for - this weeks 'blockbuster' promotion is the only week a newly made film could be chosen, the rest are years old.

04-04-2007, 10:08

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Originally Posted by kitano

- arrived with a card added listing the 1p promotion films you could vote for - this weeks 'blockbuster' promotion is the only week a newly made film could be chosen, the rest are years old.

Yes, I noticed that too. I guess it was asking too much for any newish films to be available in later weeks of the "promotion". Still, we shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth-they'll still only cost a penny.

peasonokay · 04-04-2007, 10:12

why do you need the extra speed??????? i use P2P software to get what i used to get via Skyone and even though i have the potential get get 1.2mBper secs (10mb line), it never goes over 400KB so the extra from a 20mb line will NEVER be used - except on the rare occassion i download direct from a bluechip company.

blaggard · 04-04-2007, 10:28

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Originally Posted by peasonokay

why do you need the extra speed??????? i use P2P software to get what i used to get via Skyone and even though i have the potential get get 1.2mBper secs (10mb line), it never goes over 400KB so the extra from a 20mb line will NEVER be used - except on the rare occassion i download direct from a bluechip company.

one word, newsgroups, maxed at 10.2 constantly, I'm sure I'll get double when it changes. P2P is a nightmare in so many ways, and SLOOOOW.

daveetwo · 04-04-2007, 10:41

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Originally Posted by peasonokay

why do you need the extra speed??????? i use P2P software to get what i used to get via Skyone and even though i have the potential get get 1.2mBper secs (10mb line), it never goes over 400KB so the extra from a 20mb line will NEVER be used - except on the rare occassion i download direct from a bluechip company.

You will probably notice that i didnt say i needed the extra speed. The comment was more about the difference in service between ntl when they increased from 5 to 10 and virgin with the current increase planned.

mclarenf1 · 04-04-2007, 12:40

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Originally Posted by peasonokay

why do you need the extra speed??????? i use P2P software to get what i used to get via Skyone and even though i have the potential get get 1.2mBper secs (10mb line), it never goes over 400KB so the extra from a 20mb line will NEVER be used - except on the rare occassion i download direct from a bluechip company.

have to agree with blaggard - newsgroups are far superiour to p2p rubbish - esp with full speeds. I get about 1200kbps speed atm, i am looking forward to getting 2400kbps soon

martytoo · 04-04-2007, 15:08

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Originally Posted by peasonokay

why do you need the extra speed??????? i use P2P software to get what i used to get via Skyone and even though i have the potential get get 1.2mBper secs (10mb line), it never goes over 400KB so the extra from a 20mb line will NEVER be used - except on the rare occassion i download direct from a bluechip company.

Remember the maximum speed you get from a P2P connection is determined by the maximum UPLOAD speed of the host computer you are connected to, in other words you may be able to receive data at 1.2MB per sec but the uploader may only be able to supply at 400KB

Jez_Gafys · 04-04-2007, 15:40

I need the xtra speed so that I can download more movies in a day!!!

Don't care what everyone says about blah blah all I download are linix distros, patches and updates, they are all lying!!!!!!!

goomba · 04-04-2007, 16:11

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Originally Posted by martytoo

Remember the maximum speed you get from a P2P connection is determined by the maximum UPLOAD speed of the host computer you are connected to, in other words you may be able to receive data at 1.2MB per sec but the uploader may only be able to supply at 400KB

A Bit torrent client connects you to many peers though. Or so I have heard

TK421 · 04-04-2007, 16:53

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Originally Posted by goomba

A Bit torrent client connects you to many peers though. Or so I have heard

Yes, but its going to take a LOT of uploaders to match a maxed out newsgroup connection. I rarely get my 10MB maxed out with the Blueyonder newsgroup servers though, it only seems to be giving me 3 simultaneous connections these days.

virginmedia · 04-04-2007, 18:15

Can anyone put a scan of this letter on the website please.

mclarenf1 · 04-04-2007, 18:58

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Originally Posted by TK421

Yes, but its going to take a LOT of uploaders to match a maxed out newsgroup connection. I rarely get my 10MB maxed out with the Blueyonder newsgroup servers though, it only seems to be giving me 3 simultaneous connections these days.

giganews is better imo

Ginger Nut · 04-04-2007, 19:19

Are these letters to ex ntlers only as I haven't received anything.

I'm ex TW.

JethroUK · 04-04-2007, 21:32

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Originally Posted by goomba

A Bit torrent client connects you to many peers though. Or so I have heard

Peer 2 peer programs always have (not just bit torrent)

virginmedia · 04-04-2007, 22:38

So can anyone provide a scan of this letter.

04-04-2007, 23:17

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Originally Posted by virginmedia

So can anyone provide a scan of this letter.

I haven't received it either

04-04-2007, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Ginger Nut

Are these letters to ex ntlers only

Perhaps.

carl.waring · 04-04-2007, 23:33

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Originally Posted by sskywatcher

nojo608 started a thread about this about a week ago. Someone posted the contents of the letter in that thread.

No. That was a different letter. I've not had the 'broadband speed upgrade' one yet either

04-04-2007, 23:46

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Originally Posted by carl.waring

No. That was a different letter. I've not had the 'broadband speed upgrade' one yet either

Yes, just realised it was Kitano's post about the letter from Branson about Sky channels that I responded to earlier.
I haven't had the broadband letter either and I'm ex Telewest.

Radio Informer · 05-04-2007, 09:22

Igot a a booklet how to use the new look virgin tv guides as the menus changed from telewest to virgin yesterday same day the booklet arrived.

stephend · 05-04-2007, 11:45

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Originally Posted by mclarenf1

have to agree with blaggard - newsgroups are far superiour to p2p rubbish - esp with full speeds. I get about 1200kbps speed atm, i am looking forward to getting 2400kbps soon

This newsgroup stuff sounds interesting - I'm guessing it's alt.binaries something-or-other...?

How do they escape the wrath of the MPAA and the like - surely the files are located on a central server, than can be the subject of a DMCA take-down? Or the downloader could be identified through subpoenaed IP logs?

I only ask from the perspective of how the legal system deals with such things....

04-04-2007, 08:27	#1
daveetwo Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Gender: Male Location: Farnborough, Hants Services: Virgin VIP Pack Posts: 2,710	Virgins letter arrived this morning Nice to see a timely letter about the broadband increase being rolled out in may. Whats even better is that they actually state that certain modems may need upgrading. When ntl brought out the 10mb i had endless arguments with them before writing to head office in hook and management got me a new modem within a couple of weeks. I think this is a significant improvement. (slightly soured by the fact that there is a charge to get a modem that copes with it but still a big improvement) From the letter i see there is an updates page on the website which i hadnt noticed.

04-04-2007, 09:54	#2
xyphic Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Services: Virgin VIP Posts: 277	I got the letter early last week. They still haven't updated the website listed to say when it's rolling out or which modems are compatible.

04-04-2007, 10:00	#3
kitano Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Liverpool Services: Virgin Media TV XL & Phone, VM BB XL (20MB) Posts: 337	I had that letter the other week too. Also received another yesterday mentioning the Sky channels again (saying they were putting money into other things now) - arrived with a card added listing the 1p promotion films you could vote for - this weeks 'blockbuster' promotion is the only week a newly made film could be chosen, the rest are years old.

04-04-2007, 10:12	#5
peasonokay Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: south Services: Virgin XL TV & L BB and V+ Posts: 1,136	why do you need the extra speed??????? i use P2P software to get what i used to get via Skyone and even though i have the potential get get 1.2mBper secs (10mb line), it never goes over 400KB so the extra from a 20mb line will NEVER be used - except on the rare occassion i download direct from a bluechip company.

04-04-2007, 15:40	#10
Jez_Gafys Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 106	I need the xtra speed so that I can download more movies in a day!!! Don't care what everyone says about blah blah all I download are linix distros, patches and updates, they are all lying!!!!!!!

04-04-2007, 18:15	#13
virginmedia Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St Helens Services: Virgin Media: TV Size XL V+ and V box, BB 10Mb, Phone XL Posts: 197	Can anyone put a scan of this letter on the website please.

04-04-2007, 19:19	#15
Ginger Nut Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 6,362	Are these letters to ex ntlers only as I haven't received anything. I'm ex TW.

04-04-2007, 22:38	#17
virginmedia Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: St Helens Services: Virgin Media: TV Size XL V+ and V box, BB 10Mb, Phone XL Posts: 197	So can anyone provide a scan of this letter.

05-04-2007, 09:22	#22
Radio Informer Banned User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex England Services: Blueyonder Size M : Virgin Media :Size XL : Freeview,DAB Radio Posts: 2,047	Igot a a booklet how to use the new look virgin tv guides as the menus changed from telewest to virgin yesterday same day the booklet arrived.