Whats the point of going to work. - General Discussion

mintbro · 19-04-2007, 17:30

Firstly iam 19 this year and have worked as a head cook in a cafe for the last three years and when ive wanted something such as learing to drive i,ve had to work my arse off to pay for it.

However my best mate told me last nite that he bumped in to his ex girlfriend who after they seperated went on to have a baby by another man.

Since the baby was born she has only had access to it two days a week.However she has been provided with a flat to live in and gets everything paid for by us tax payers and now she is getting driving lessons for free paid for by us and will be provided with a car.Also her flat is a very nice place in the heart of the town centre yet the builders are coming in next week to decorate.

Why the hell does she get all this for free when there are loads of us who have to work our arse of everyday to pay for things like she is having.

magicmover · 19-04-2007, 17:33

Yep it's a cruel world!

MyJD · 19-04-2007, 17:33

Self respect.

elena · 19-04-2007, 17:35

I don't think I can imagine a world where I *didn't* work. I mean, what would you DO with yourself all day? I think I'd be bored out of my skull.

Basically, it gives me things to do. And I suppose I enjoy it. I wouldn't be living in this great city without doing the job I do!

grotbags1975 · 19-04-2007, 17:37

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Originally Posted by elena

I don't think I can imagine a world where I *didn't* work. I mean, what would you DO with yourself all day? I think I'd be bored out of my skull.

Basically, it gives me things to do. And I suppose I enjoy it. I wouldn't be living in this great city without doing the job I do!

I could if I had won the lotto - I'd be doing lots of 'non work' activities

elena · 19-04-2007, 17:39

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Originally Posted by grotbags1975

I could if I had won the lotto - I'd be doing lots of 'non work' activities

Ooh, no. I couldn't give up work entirely. Sure, it would be fun the first few months, but it wouldn't make me happy. I like feeling productive.

Sloopy · 19-04-2007, 17:39

Sitting on your a*se all day sounds tempting, but in reality boredom would soon set in - you have to have something to occupy your brain, or you'd go mad.

19-04-2007, 17:40

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Originally Posted by mintbro

Since the baby was born she has only had access to it two days a week.However she has been provided with a flat to live in and gets everything paid for by us tax payers and now she is getting driving lessons for free paid for by us and will be provided with a car.Also her flat is a very nice place in the heart of the town centre yet the builders are coming in next week to decorate.

It is highly unlikely that the government would pay for driving lessons. So, either someone is winding you and your mate up or she has a long term sickness or disability that requires aided mobility.

If that is the case she deserves everything that the government can help her with.

Edited to add: Did your friend say why she only had access to her child 2 days a week? You might also discover that the child has a serious illness which requires their parent be able to drive.

UKMikey · 19-04-2007, 17:41

Free internet, tea/coffee and toilet facilities.

Actually, you can probably forget the last one.

mintbro · 19-04-2007, 17:42

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Originally Posted by kittycate

It is highly unlikely that the government would pay for driving lessons. So, either someone is winding you and your mate up or she has a long term sickness or disability that requires aided mobility.

If that is the case she deserves everything that the government can help her with.

No she has no learn term sickness or disability at all and she is getting driving lessons paid for her.

lemoncurd · 19-04-2007, 17:43

People complain about benefit scroungers, but to be honest, even all the benefits you could possibly claim for wouldn't come to enough anyway! Maybe if I could claim £50k of benefits a year I might consider giving upwork, but otherwise, I think I'll stick at it!

19-04-2007, 17:45

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Originally Posted by mintbro

No she has no learn term sickness or disability at all and she is getting driving lessons paid for her.

Sorry, I did a naughty thing and added a bit after I posted (thought I had been quick but you were quicker

).

I wondered whether her child might be poorly if she has been given assistance with learning to drive?

stud u like · 19-04-2007, 17:46

It is about time they got rid of the welfare state. Too many rabbits out there getting free lettuce.

elena · 19-04-2007, 17:48

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Originally Posted by stud u like

It is about time they got rid of the welfare state. Too many rabbits out there getting free lettuce.

What - completely?

What if I suddenly became disabled and had to foot the bill for all my medical expenses? What if I lived in a small house in... I dunno.... Birmingham, I was poor, and I had no financial support? How would I cope?

19-04-2007, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Sloopy

Sitting on your a*se all day sounds tempting, but in reality boredom would soon set in - you have to have something to occupy your brain, or you'd go mad.

Would be great to have the funds to pretty much do anything you wanted though. Start your dream business...

mintbro · 19-04-2007, 17:49

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Originally Posted by kittycate

Sorry, I did a naughty thing and added a bit after I posted (thought I had been quick but you were quicker

).

I wondered whether her child might be poorly if she has been given assistance with learning to drive?

Like i said before she has an agreement with the babies father that she only has the baby two days a week and for only one of these days does the baby stay over night.

SpecialClub · 19-04-2007, 17:50

There is no point in going to work for its own sake. Given the choice, nobody would do, even those who insist they want to feel productive. People do it to pay for food, to have a roof over the head and the occasional luxury.

Being productive, as some have already alluded to, is something different. But if you are being productive for the benefit of the organisation and taking home a cr*ppy wage, then you are a mug. On the other hand, if you enjoy your productivity and are paid a rewarding salary, or better still in a position to retain the full fruits of your labour then work is work worth doing.

jen0607 · 19-04-2007, 17:50

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Originally Posted by mintbro

Since the baby was born she has only had access to it two days a week.However she has been provided with a flat to live in and gets everything paid for by us tax payers and now she is getting driving lessons for free paid for by us and will be provided with a car.Also her flat is a very nice place in the heart of the town centre yet the builders are coming in next week to decorate.

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Sorry, but the driving lessons and car thing is an absolute load of panda poo. The Govt do not pay for driving lessons, or cars.

The state do not pay fo decorators either.

stud u like · 19-04-2007, 17:52

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Originally Posted by elena

What - completely?

What if I suddenly became disabled and had to foot the bill for all my medical expenses? What if I lived in a small house in... I dunno.... Birmingham, I was poor, and I had no financial support? How would I cope?

People do fine in other countries without it. They don't have the scroungers we have.

kmac · 19-04-2007, 17:52

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Originally Posted by kittycate

It is highly unlikely that the government would pay for driving lessons. So, either someone is winding you and your mate up or she has a long term sickness or disability that requires aided mobility.

A friend of my youngest daughter who's a perfectly healthy 20 year old, was put through her forklift training and licence but not by the DSS it was by one of those government training programmes.

Maybe the girl in question has said that she wants to work on the ambulances or something else that requires a driving licence.

Paper Doll · 19-04-2007, 17:57

When I was unemployed they were giving free driving lessons to people who had been unemployed for a certain amount of time, they also paid for suits for interviews and tattoo removal, and at least a couple of people were bought scooters so they could get to jobs, so it's not a load of panda poo, there were only a limited number of people who could get the driving lessons though, not everyone.

19-04-2007, 17:57

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Originally Posted by mintbro

Like i said before she has an agreement with the babies father that she only has the baby two days a week and for only one of these days does the baby stay over night.

Well no, you didn't say that, but ok then.

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Originally Posted by mintbro

Since the baby was born she has only had access to it two days a week.However she has been provided with a flat to live in and gets everything paid for by us tax payers and now she is getting driving lessons for free paid for by us and will be provided with a car.Also her flat is a very nice place in the heart of the town centre yet the builders are coming in next week to decorate

19-04-2007, 18:00

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Originally Posted by kmac

A friend of my youngest daughter who's a perfectly healthy 20 year old, was put through her forklift training and licence but not by the DSS it was by one of those government training programmes.

Maybe the girl in question has said that she wants to work on the ambulances or something else that requires a driving licence.

Yes, in your context that would make sense.

What has annoyed me about the op is the assumptions made.

19-04-2007, 18:01

Just to earn cash for me.

19-04-2007, 18:02

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Originally Posted by jen0607

Sorry, but the driving lessons and car thing is an absolute load of panda poo. The Govt do not pay for driving lessons, or cars.

The state do not pay fo decorators either.

If the council have provided property they do the decorating as well.

Or it could be that this person has a social fund loan from the government to pay for it I guess.

19-04-2007, 17:30	#1
mintbro Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,157	Whats the point of going to work. Firstly iam 19 this year and have worked as a head cook in a cafe for the last three years and when ive wanted something such as learing to drive i,ve had to work my arse off to pay for it. However my best mate told me last nite that he bumped in to his ex girlfriend who after they seperated went on to have a baby by another man. Since the baby was born she has only had access to it two days a week.However she has been provided with a flat to live in and gets everything paid for by us tax payers and now she is getting driving lessons for free paid for by us and will be provided with a car.Also her flat is a very nice place in the heart of the town centre yet the builders are coming in next week to decorate. Why the hell does she get all this for free when there are loads of us who have to work our arse of everyday to pay for things like she is having. Last edited by mintbro : 19-04-2007 at 17:35.

19-04-2007, 17:33	#2
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19-04-2007, 17:35	#4
elena Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Posts: 11,621	I don't think I can imagine a world where I didn't work. I mean, what would you DO with yourself all day? I think I'd be bored out of my skull. Basically, it gives me things to do. And I suppose I enjoy it. I wouldn't be living in this great city without doing the job I do!

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Sloopy Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59,936	Sitting on your a*se all day sounds tempting, but in reality boredom would soon set in - you have to have something to occupy your brain, or you'd go mad.

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lemoncurd Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Gender: Male Location: Bristol Services: Freeview (Fusion FVRT200 DVR); BeUnlimited 8Mb Posts: 23,333 Blog Entries: 1	People complain about benefit scroungers, but to be honest, even all the benefits you could possibly claim for wouldn't come to enough anyway! Maybe if I could claim £50k of benefits a year I might consider giving upwork, but otherwise, I think I'll stick at it!

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stud u like Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Gender: Male Location: The Sunny Side Of The Street Services: masculine men with passion! Posts: 19,011 Blog Entries: 14	It is about time they got rid of the welfare state. Too many rabbits out there getting free lettuce.

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SpecialClub Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: London Services: 5.5" black and white TV analogue! Posts: 5,101	There is no point in going to work for its own sake. Given the choice, nobody would do, even those who insist they want to feel productive. People do it to pay for food, to have a roof over the head and the occasional luxury. Being productive, as some have already alluded to, is something different. But if you are being productive for the benefit of the organisation and taking home a cr*ppy wage, then you are a mug. On the other hand, if you enjoy your productivity and are paid a rewarding salary, or better still in a position to retain the full fruits of your labour then work is work worth doing.

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Paper Doll Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,731	When I was unemployed they were giving free driving lessons to people who had been unemployed for a certain amount of time, they also paid for suits for interviews and tattoo removal, and at least a couple of people were bought scooters so they could get to jobs, so it's not a load of panda poo, there were only a limited number of people who could get the driving lessons though, not everyone.

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