cant wink at the queen, cant touch her.....whats all this rubbish - General Discussion

kraktoa · 08-05-2007, 13:03

Why cant a President/Prime minster touch the queen or wink at her. Who makes these stupid rules up and why do they have to be obeyed. If I were a Nobel prize winner i would fart in her presence. I got where i am out of sheer brilliance. what is her bloody claim to fame other than being born into that family. In the 21st century why do we put up with this kind of nonsense.

PamelaL · 08-05-2007, 13:04

*deckchair, gin and tonic*

Dazballer · 08-05-2007, 13:05

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Originally Posted by kraktoa

Why cant a President/Prime minster touch the queen or wink at her. Who makes these stupid rules up and why do they have to be obeyed. If I were a Nobel prize winner i would fart in her presence. I got where i am out of sheer brilliance. what is her bloody claim to fame other than being born into that family. In the 21st century why do we put up with this kind of nonsense.

Well, look on the bright side. It seems to distract you from all the REAL issues in the world.

kraktoa · 08-05-2007, 13:05

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Originally Posted by PamelaL

*deckchair, gin and tonic*

gimme the weather and i will do it....

nationwide232 · 08-05-2007, 13:08

How very dare you ! Take that back or I will throw you in the tower!

In fact I totally agree with you. The problem is that we have had this institution for so long that even though it is well past it's sell-by date, nobody can muster up the energy required to change things. Also people have the false notion that we have nobody better to put in her place as a president.

Milky Joe · 08-05-2007, 13:09

*opens thread*

*sniffs*

*closes thread*

grotbags1975 · 08-05-2007, 13:10

why would you want to wink or touch the queen?

you could always rent a copy of 'airtight grannies' if thats your thang

Deep Purple · 08-05-2007, 13:10

I dont think she's complained has she?

PamelaL · 08-05-2007, 13:10

There was a bit of a hullabulloo years ago when an Australian Prime Minister put his arm around her if I recall but is it still a no-no?

Misanthrope · 08-05-2007, 13:11

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Originally Posted by kraktoa

If I were a Nobel prize winner i would fart in her presence.

You mean you're not a Nobel prize winner ... Say it isn't so ??

TheSarge · 08-05-2007, 13:14

Seeing the Queen greasing up to Bush was disappointing.

Spot · 08-05-2007, 13:14

It really wouldn't be any different with a Head of State who wasn't the Queen. Physical contact of the sort we are talking about would almost certainly be inappropriate and winking - well it's maybe marginally more likely that you might do this but would you often wink at someone you don't know pretty well? Probably not.

Milky Joe · 08-05-2007, 13:15

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Originally Posted by Spot

It really wouldn't be any different with a Head of State who wasn't the Queen. Physical contact of the sort we are talking about would almost certainly be inappropriate and winking - well it's maybe marginally more likely that you might do this but would you often wink at someone you don't know pretty well? Probably not.

You could do a Mark from Peep Show and claim its involuntary twitching

SinSeer · 08-05-2007, 13:16

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Originally Posted by kraktoa

Why cant a President/Prime minster touch the queen or wink at her. Who makes these stupid rules up and why do they have to be obeyed. If I were a Nobel prize winner i would fart in her presence. I got where i am out of sheer brilliance. what is her bloody claim to fame other than being born into that family. In the 21st century why do we put up with this kind of nonsense.

Would YOU want to be touched up by Dubya or hit on by him?

If not, why should a marred woman in her 80s want to either? As for protocol, the Americans would probably shoot you dead if you tried to touch the President in case you were an assassin.

comedyfish · 08-05-2007, 13:17

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Originally Posted by SinSeer

If not, why should a marred woman in her 80s want to either?

heh heh

Chilli Dragon · 08-05-2007, 13:32

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Originally Posted by grotbags1975

why would you want to wink or touch the queen?

Indeed.

SANDGATIAN · 08-05-2007, 13:37

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Originally Posted by kraktoa

Why cant a President/Prime minster touch the queen or wink at her. Who makes these stupid rules up and why do they have to be obeyed. If I were a Nobel prize winner i would fart in her presence. I got where i am out of sheer brilliance. what is her bloody claim to fame other than being born into that family. In the 21st century why do we put up with this kind of nonsense.

that applies to any female, or are you saying it's ok to?

Milky Joe · 08-05-2007, 13:38

Cant touch this, STOP! Hammertime....

The queen needs to bust out some baggy trousers and a hip dance!

blueblade · 08-05-2007, 13:45

Her Majesty is not there to be touched or winked at by anybody. She is a royal personage, and therefore has dignity suitable to her bearing.

People are too familiar these days.

skp20040 · 08-05-2007, 13:49

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Originally Posted by kraktoa

Why cant a President/Prime minster touch the queen or wink at her. Who makes these stupid rules up and why do they have to be obeyed. If I were a Nobel prize winner i would fart in her presence. I got where i am out of sheer brilliance. what is her bloody claim to fame other than being born into that family. In the 21st century why do we put up with this kind of nonsense.

And who exactly told you that she cannot be winked at , I believe you will find it was the media who blew all this up. Buckingham Palace themselves say that when the Queen is visiting places it is the people at that end who get caught up in the protocol of it all , the Queen has hit that any of us are aware of complained about being winked at just as she has no desire for anyone to bow or curtsey to her if they do not wish to.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20...6323e80_1.html
The crowd laughed and the President paused, turned to the Queen and winked.

He turned back to the lectern and quipped: "She gave me a look that only a mother could give a child." The Queen laughed in response.

Does that sound like she was angry or someone had done something they should not, it was lighthearted.

There is on the other hand good old fashioned manners , and a wink may be ok depending on the circumstances , but it is not really the done thing to go around putting your arm round any person you do not really know and are not close to, I know my grandmother would not appreciate a person she hardly knew putting their arm round her.

08-05-2007, 13:50

why even have a queen? waste of money

The Chief · 08-05-2007, 13:50

I love the fact that people want to touch her, like some exhibit in a museum or something!

Maybe she should have one of those "Please Do Not Touch!" signs stapled to her forehead?

Dan Sette · 08-05-2007, 14:03

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Originally Posted by peter_anderson

why even have a queen? waste of money

Actually, no.

The Queen actually generates a substantial income for the country. (see numerous other threads on this topic)

D

Dan Sette · 08-05-2007, 14:04

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Originally Posted by kraktoa

Why cant a President/Prime minster touch the queen or wink at her. Who makes these stupid rules up and why do they have to be obeyed.

In a nutshell. Respect.

Something that is sadly lacking in this country today.

That you do not respect the institution, Respect that others might.

D

stumblebum · 08-05-2007, 14:08

Its called respect actually.....something this country is lacking more and more often

Saying that when my son was 3, he got to present her with a bouquet. When she stopped to speak to him, he said "Allo Queen"

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kraktoa Banned User Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,250	cant wink at the queen, cant touch her.....whats all this rubbish Why cant a President/Prime minster touch the queen or wink at her. Who makes these stupid rules up and why do they have to be obeyed. If I were a Nobel prize winner i would fart in her presence. I got where i am out of sheer brilliance. what is her bloody claim to fame other than being born into that family. In the 21st century why do we put up with this kind of nonsense.

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nationwide232 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Gender: Male Location: Manchester Services: Be broadband ; Sky + Posts: 1,135	How very dare you ! Take that back or I will throw you in the tower! In fact I totally agree with you. The problem is that we have had this institution for so long that even though it is well past it's sell-by date, nobody can muster up the energy required to change things. Also people have the false notion that we have nobody better to put in her place as a president.

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grotbags1975 Banned User Join Date: May 2006 Location: notts Services: sky/ntl Posts: 3,187	why would you want to wink or touch the queen? you could always rent a copy of 'airtight grannies' if thats your thang

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Deep Purple Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,215	I dont think she's complained has she?

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Spot Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Norwich, Tacolneston tx Services: Namesco Broadband, Freeview, FTA DSat, DAB. Posts: 12,687	It really wouldn't be any different with a Head of State who wasn't the Queen. Physical contact of the sort we are talking about would almost certainly be inappropriate and winking - well it's maybe marginally more likely that you might do this but would you often wink at someone you don't know pretty well? Probably not.

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Milky Joe Forum Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: 0.3 units from doom Services: Wii - Ask for wii number! Posts: 17,448	Cant touch this, STOP! Hammertime.... The queen needs to bust out some baggy trousers and a hip dance!

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blueblade Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Gender: Male Location: Chelmsford, Essex Services: Sky HD, VM broadband Posts: 37,382	Her Majesty is not there to be touched or winked at by anybody. She is a royal personage, and therefore has dignity suitable to her bearing. People are too familiar these days.

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peter_anderson Posts: n/a	why even have a queen? waste of money

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The Chief Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: × Scotland ♂ Services: Freeview, Sky Digital Posts: 5,918	I love the fact that people want to touch her, like some exhibit in a museum or something! Maybe she should have one of those "Please Do Not Touch!" signs stapled to her forehead?

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stumblebum Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ♀ Hampshire Services: Experience is something you get 10 seconds after you needed it Posts: 4,983 Blog Entries: 6	Its called respect actually.....something this country is lacking more and more often Saying that when my son was 3, he got to present her with a bouquet. When she stopped to speak to him, he said "Allo Queen"