[jacks_back]

Thousands of illegal immigrants and their children marched in Las Vegas and elsewhere earlier this month in celebration of May Day, which the Soviets turned into the day of international communist solidarity.

In Los Angeles, numerous demonstrators cursed and threw bottles at the cops -- which is odd considering authorities persist in showing a fantastic forbearance in the face of these recurring opportunities to round them all up and put them on one-way buses to Hermosillo.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

(Some will say the kids, at least, are automatically U.S. citizens. Go read the 14th Amendment. Depends on whether they and their illegal alien mothers were "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States at the time of the birth, in the same way former slaves were.)

The marchers said they were demanding "immigration law reform." But that's just another politically correct lie. Why would anyone want "reform" of a law they've shown no intention of obeying? What they really want is "belly-up immigration surrender" -- free instant citizenship rights to all government welfare benefits for anyone who can get here.

Why is it dangerous that we can't discuss these things frankly in the open, without a lot of crippling euphemisms that disguise what this is really all about? Because it forces this debate underground, where things can fester unseen till we're ambushed by the Dark Side, as happened on 9/11, in the case of the long-ignored resurgence of murderous fanatical Islam.

I don't think this wave of discontent is racist, really (though a future demagogue might twist it in that direction). I don't think most Americans hate people with foreign accents, or people with Mexican names or brown skin. In fact, Americans are a generous people, always willing to lend a hand to someone who really wants to join us -- legally.

What Americans are fed up with are people who come here and do not seem to want to assimilate. People who send much of their earnings "home" to another country. People who meantime are turning entire neighborhoods of our cities into Little Tijuanas, where half the store signs seem to advertise "llanteras usadas." People who expect their kids to be taught in Spanish and don't seem to know or care that this renders our overcrowded free welfare schools even more dysfunctional. People who decline to either buy auto insurance or set enough aside to cover their liabilities. People who use our expensive hospital emergency rooms as their cold-and-sniffle clinics.

The real complaint here is that those "old Americans" who still try to "follow the rules" find themselves increasingly squeezed and taxed, fingerprinted and regulated and licensed and strip-searched, while the illegals seem to get a "bye" on all this stuff.

Does that seem right when college-educated, English-speaking, would-be immigrants spend years on waiting lists, trying to get here from Asia and Africa and Eastern Europe?

Remove your filters and read your real ocean of e-mail for a couple of days. Count the flag-waving messages that start out, "Why do I have to push 'one' if I want to speak English?"

Blocked from expressing their outrage anywhere in the mainstream media, there are a lot of Americans out there fuming at streets full of marching illegal aliens waving foreign flags and demanding more tax-funded "benefits." These frustrated citizens have no voice, so these tensions find no expression, like a pressure cooker with the little jiggler tied down.

Our politicians assume they can end this debate with the question, "Who else would do the jobs Americans don't want to do?" But did you notice how many bona fide U.S. citizens lined up to apply for those "jobs Americans won't do" after Immigration and Customs Enforcement rounded up the illegals at those six Swift meat-packing plants in December?

Suppose we were to see a real economic downturn in this nation. Imagine lots of American males ages 45 to 65 -- all mortgaged to the hilt, none with adequate savings -- lose their jobs. When they apply for lower-paying jobs, they're told there are no openings -- illegal aliens got there first.

Watch these guys having to sell their homes in a deflated market, taking half what they paid (or the same price they paid in devalued dollars that now buy only a pint of gasoline apiece, which is the same thing). Imagine the people who buy those underpriced houses are people with foreign accents flashing wads of cash.

Now let a demagogue take to the airwaves and invite those disgruntled, unemployed Americans to go downtown the next time the illegals stage a march with their Mexican flags and beat the hell out of them. Let's say a thousand people show up with ax handles, overwhelming a police force that protects these lawbreakers instead of arresting them -- as they'd arrest you or me if we went down there and lit up a joint, or even if we showed up wearing perfectly legal pistols on our hips.

Then let's say that radio demagogue decides to run for office -- and voter turnout suddenly doubles, the polling places swamped with his followers, shouting, "We're fed up and we're not going to take it anymore!"

It happened in Germany 70 years ago.

The reason those things don't happen in America is that we've been free to air our differences in public, in plain English -- nobody booed into silence for demanding that the criminals be rounded up -- and to express our will at the polls.

But which politician do I vote for if I want to see the immigration laws energetically enforced -- today -- or the expensive and dysfunctional welfare state promptly and actively disbanded? (Go ahead, tell me about Ron Paul and Wayne Allyn Root, God bless 'em. I was a Libertarian activist for years. All we need to do is paint a few more yard signs -- right?)

Open and frank discussion of these issues might inoculate us against some clever orator who wants to use this issue to get himself and his lieutenants outfitted for shiny black boots and a really nice hat.

Instead, the forces of political correctness will simply get out the picket signs, stomp their feet and bleat that such discussions hurt their feelings. And in response -- mindful of the fates of Howard Stern and Don Imus -- most who hope for long careers will choose the path of discretion, just lay low and not say nothin'.

http://www.lvrj.com/opinion/7483752.html

[KJ44]

No views of your own to add?

I'm also curious as to why it's necessary to post all the article when we have hyperlinks.

[pxd867]

I agree with the majority of that.

[Lorna1000]

I'm assuming all these people getting all riled up are Native Americans then?

[jen0607]

* grabs the popcorn*

I'm far too liberal and leftie to give an opinion on that.

[EleanorRigby]

I wish they would stop saying undocumented workers instead of illegal aliens. They are in the US illegally don't beat around the bush,and Bush should stop siding with them and promising them amnesty.
If they give them amnesty they will be able to bring in about ten other people each. So 12 million illegals that become12 million legal x10 (it's probably more than 12 million).
In the past the immigrants were legal and they wanted to assimilate but these illegals often dont want to learn English or assimilate into American culture.
I think there should be one language English and anyone who goes there to become a legal citizen must learn English.

[jacks_back]

the point is that illegal immigration is doing nothing but destroying the host country. The whole lie about them doing jobs that Americans don't want to do are just that lies. We are in threat in losing our country to mexico. Ever been to Los Angeles might have been mexico city for all we know. When they had their mayday march last year kids in all the schools where told not to wear American flags in fear of aggrevating the mexican students in our own country. In colorado a young girl who wore a red sweater, white shirt and blue jeans was told not wear those combination of colors again or risk expulsion. This is a warning that we need to enforce the rules that are writtin or else before you know it their is a foreign flag flying on your flag pole and your flag is considered outlawed.

[blueblade]

The Americans subjogated the indigenous Indians, and have always been a melting pot for the world, not to mention invading other countries themselves.

Then they complain when the chickens come home to roost.

[Lorna1000]

Does anyone know if Christopher Columbus had a green card??

[jacks_back]

Originally Posted by blueblade

The Americans subjogated the indigenous Indians, and have always been a melting pot for the world, not to mention invading other countries themselves.

Then they complain when the chickens come home to roost.

yeah we Americans did some work on those aztecs, Incas and mayans oh wait those were europeans. Nasty bastards they are. Burn the Inca kingt alive they did.

[jacks_back]

Originally Posted by Lorna1000

Does anyone know if Christopher Columbus had a green card??

Columbus never touch my counrty and besides his day is not really celebrated anymore.

[blueblade]

Originally Posted by jacks_back

yeah we Americans did some work on those aztecs, Incas and mayans oh wait those were europeans. Nasty bastards they are. Burn the Inca kingt alive they did.

What are you on about ?

[Lorna1000]

Originally Posted by jacks_back

yeah we Americans did some work on those aztecs, Incas and mayans oh wait those were europeans. Nasty bastards they are. Burn the Inca kingt alive they did.

If you aren't a decendant of a native american induian, or a decendant of a european, where the diddly did your ancestors come from?

[jacks_back]

Originally Posted by blueblade

What are you on about ?

Everytime you people talk about the natives you say those nasty Americans but in truth you europeans did most of the killing. Tell me the gold in spain's churches where did they come from? They language no spoken in those lands. I doubt spainish was the native language there. Obliviously taught to learn spainsh at the point of a sword.

[Lorna1000]

*twists index finger at side of head*

Time for me to go home I think.......

[jen0607]

Originally Posted by jacks_back

Everytime you people talk about the natives you say those nasty Americans but in truth you europeans did most of the killing. Tell me the gold in spain's churches where did they come from? They language no spoken in those lands. I doubt spainish was the native language there. Obliviously taught to learn spainsh at the point of a sword.

Where exactly did you learn to speak english?

And if you are American (which I presume you are) where are your ancestors from?

[lofichic]

Obviously that free American education system didn't teach you much about typos though

Yes, the Europeans. Those same ancestors of OURS are yours, unless you're indigenous/from another continent. I think that's the point the previous posters are trying to make. Our ancestors did the same things, in different places, from different original native states.

[Nine Bob Note]

*Wonders what jacks_back's first language is*

It sure as hell ain't English

[jacks_back]

Originally Posted by Lorna1000

If you aren't a decendant of a native american induian, or a decendant of a european, where the diddly did your ancestors come from?

I'm American decendant of Americans. I don'y consider myself European and why should I. Plus even though I'm half hispanic I don't consider myself mexican. I don't want anything to do with that corrupt country. But the rules of law need to be followed in any country. When towns and cities like farmers branch, Texas need to to make new laws to enforce federal laws. It shows that the American people no longer trusts the Federal goverment anymore. Farmers is only 1 of 33 that have made this laws or laws similar. The truth is I hate seeing my fellow country men being killed by illegal drunk drivers that never should be in the country and cops being sued because they don't know how to speak spanish.

[jacks_back]

I can't type for shit and when I type fast I can't spell for shit even though I can. Typing is different than writting a letter.

[leo]

Originally Posted by jacks_back

Everytime you people talk about the natives you say those nasty Americans but in truth you europeans did most of the killing. Tell me the gold in spain's churches where did they come from? They language no spoken in those lands. I doubt spainish was the native language there. Obliviously taught to learn spainsh at the point of a sword.

Are you an idiot? The europeans did do most of the killing, yes. But do you think those Europeans then turned around and went back to Europe? Those Europeans are the ancestors to modern "Americans"

Anyway, as this is a predominantly British forum, can you please go and find somewhere else to spew your hate filled xenophobia.

The fact is, there is very little that seperates an American and a Mexican. There was great debate over the official language of the USA, with Spanish getting almost half the votes. Indeed, even now, English is the official language of less than half the states.

Mexicans are simply more tanned versions of Americans who ended up on the poor side of the border.

[blueblade]

Originally Posted by jacks_back

Everytime you people talk about the natives you say those nasty Americans but in truth you europeans did most of the killing. Tell me the gold in spain's churches where did they come from? They language no spoken in those lands. I doubt spainish was the native language there. Obliviously taught to learn spainsh at the point of a sword.

I still haven't a clue what you're driving at, or even what the point behind this thread is.

One thing I can you is that if you expect a bucket of sympathy for the USA, you might not have come to the right place.

[Lorna1000]

Originally Posted by jacks_back

I can't type for shit and when I type fast I can't spell for shit even though I can. Typing is different than writting a letter.

I've got it! You're taking a stand against English as its a European language and so are rebelling by creating a whole new language of your own, for those proper americans! Good for you!

[jacks_back]

Originally Posted by leo

Are you an idiot? The europeans did do most of the killing, yes. But do you think those Europeans then turned around and went back to Europe? Those Europeans are the ancestors to modern "Americans"

Anyway, as this is a predominantly British forum, can you please go and find somewhere else to spew your hate filled xenophobia.

The fact is, there is very little that seperates an American and a Mexican. There was great debate over the official language of the USA, with Spanish getting almost half the votes. Indeed, even now, English is the official language of less than half the states.

Mexicans are simply more tanned versions of Americans who ended up on the poor side of the border.

Wrong mexicans are not Americans. We are 2 different countries and it wasn't Spanish it was German.

This what is happening right now
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/m...-7m13flag.html

soon it will happen in your country as well.

[jacks_back]

Not asking for sympathy but just warning you what will happen if Immigration is not checked.