[DM72]

I am intending to get a 90cm satellite dish to pick up eutelsat 16E. I have a sky dish on the front of the house as my house faces east. Its a 2-storey semi detached and the gable wall is facing south. So I assume the dish for eutelsat will have to go on the front of the house. However, the wife is moaning about this, would it be possible to place in the back garden and if so what would I need to have done before they install it, eg. concrete base, etc.... Also, is installing it on the back garden on the ground very expensive and how would it affect the signal?

[3dom]

If you have a clear line of sight then you shouldn't have any problems if you put it in your back garden but if not you will have to mount it high on your house if you don't wnat it on the front of the building.

[DM72]

Originally Posted by 3dom

If you have a clear line of sight then you shouldn't have any problems if you put it in your back garden but if not you will have to mount it high on your house if you don't wnat it on the front of the building.

Clear line of sight, but the house is in the way??? Will the signal not pass through the structure. Thats probably dumb!

[Sam Radford.]

The signal won't even pass through a damp leaf. You need a clear line of sight. That means mounting the dish where it can see over the roof.

[JamesE]

Required angle about 28 degrees. It fires upwards.

[sat12345]

The dish on the front of the house, which way does it face compared to the house, imagine your standing behind the dish

[DM72]

Originally Posted by sat12345

The dish on the front of the house, which way does it face compared to the house, imagine your standing behind the dish

The dish on the front wall is pointing straight across no angle to the left or right, if that makes sense.

[rai uno]

Yes, but the LNB Arm is "Offset": Remember your School Physics (Optics), then draw an imaginary lion between the LNB and the Dish, apply angle of incidence = angle of reflection and you will find another imaginary lion pointing upwards at around 25 degrees.

QED.

[Starkicker]

Originally Posted by rai uno

Yes, but the LNB Arm is "Offset": Remember your School Physics (Optics), then draw an imaginary lion between the LNB and the Dish, apply angle of incidence = angle of reflection and you will find another imaginary lion pointing upwards at around 25 degrees.

QED.

Lines work just as well - and are easier to draw.

[sat12345]

Unless your house is 1 story and the garden is 200m+ long the dish will have to be on the front, or look over the house which would be against planning rules.

[wod1]

or remove the sky dish and mount the 90cm dish align it on 16east and use an offset bracket with lnb for 28east ?

[rai uno]

Originally Posted by Starkicker

Lines work just as well - and are easier to draw.

I think your irony/humour circuits are on the blink!

[sat12345]

Originally Posted by thewod_uk

or remove the sky dish and mount the 90cm dish align it on 16east and use an offset bracket with lnb for 28east ?

He doesn't want it on front

[DM72]

Originally Posted by thewod_uk

or remove the sky dish and mount the 90cm dish align it on 16east and use an offset bracket with lnb for 28east ?

Is this expensive to do and would it affect the quality and strength of my sky digital signal?

[wod1]

no as astra 2 is very strong signal over the uk

[sat12345]

Originally Posted by DM72

Is this expensive to do and would it affect the quality and strength of my sky digital signal?

If your going to add 90cm on the front of your house stick a motor on it too, there is so much more out there.

[JamesE]

Originally Posted by sat12345

Unless your house is 1 story and the garden is 200m+ long the dish will have to be on the front, or look over the house which would be against planning rules.

Not true - do a bit of geometry. In any case it can be on a pole at the back above eaves level as long as it is not above ridge level to conform with planning regs.

Height of house = (say) 12m, then 12/tan35=25.7m and that assumes ground level.

[DM72]

Originally Posted by sat12345

If your going to add 90cm on the front of your house stick a motor on it too, there is so much more out there.

Right if i install this dish i will want to get sky, digitalb and premiere, is the motor the best option and how many other satellites could i pick up with this and my technomate 1500ci+

[coopermanyorks]

Originally Posted by sat12345

He doesn't want it on front

I think its his wife that doesn't want it on the front

[davemurgatroyd]

With a motorised dish you will only be able to watch channels on one satellite at a time. ( Could be major conflicts between Football on other satellites and soaps etc on Sky). Could also cause problems on a Sky subscription card if the dish is not parked pointing at Sky's 28.2 when not in use so as the card receives its "keep alive" signal.

If you only really want 3 (or even 4) satellites a far better alternative would be a fixed dish with multiple lnbs = one of which is permanently connected to your $ky dodgibox (enabling its use at any time) and the others connected to your Technomate.

Switching between channels on different satellites is virtually instant with a fixed dish whereas with a motorised dish you have to wait a couple of seconds ( between adjacent satellites) or up to 30 or 40 seconds (if satellites are at opposite ends of the arc.

You really have to decide what your and the rest of your households viewing requirements are- one programme at a time or Sky available to others when you are watching footie etc. if you are restricted to one dish.

[Sam Radford.]

Put it on the rear, as in my photo:
http://sam-radford.me.uk/install.htm#rear

[DM72]

Originally Posted by sat12345

If your going to add 90cm on the front of your house stick a motor on it too, there is so much more out there.

But if I do stick a second dish up would I be better with a motor rather than 2 lnbs. How many more satellites would I have access to and would it be really worthwhile?

[Sam Radford.]

You can't use a motorised dish with a Sky Digibox connected. (Well, you can, but you'll be sorry!)

[davemurgatroyd]

Originally Posted by Sam Radford.

You can't use a motorised dish with a Sky Digibox connected. (Well, you can, but you'll be sorry!)

As I stated in post #20

[DM72]

Originally Posted by sat12345

If your going to add 90cm on the front of your house stick a motor on it too, there is so much more out there.

I don't mean that! I am going to keep my sky minidish, but the second dish is for connecting to digitalb, would i be better using a motor on this dish rather than 2 lnbs. I want to get digitalb and premiere but if there are any other satellites worth getting then would i be better with a motor. How many satellites are we talking about in the east!