[zzenzero]

This may appear to be in hindsight, given what's occured, but I have made several references in previous posts to Emily being a loose cannon and fiercely independent in true Aries Dragon style.

So here's an astro-perspective of Emily.Of course upbringing and social influences come into it, too but that side of things has been well-covered elsewhere.Call her an arrogant,spoilt,immature girl or what you will but in twenty years time that powerful aries dragon will still be with her.It's an essential part of her make-up.

Emily isn't just aries-dragon,headstrong and explosive enough in itself but she also has moon and mercury in aries.This is an astrological cocktail that can self-explode at any moment.Going where angels fear to tread and collecting the scars, accordingly.Emily, for all her detractors, gained many admirers on the forum[myself included]

Emily's Aries dragon is a supremely confident,enterprising, raw energy which can dazzle and inspire you one moment but exasperate you the next with its impetuous,egotistical, domineering nature.A creative,pioneering leader whose sheer enthusiasm and charisma may will you to follow but whose recklessness and inconsideration may send you running for cover, leaving aries dragon to walk the hot coals alone.

Emily put her foot in it several times before the Charley incident and protested vehemently that she didn't mean to do it or "it isn't fair".Child-like in her protestations and aries,being the first sign of the zodiac is seen as the child or new-born one.Aries,like the child, has much to learn, being the zodiac's first sign,and will have many falls along the way.For all its power and presence["I am"] its still the child of the zodiac.

No in-betweens here, no generalities that could be applied to any sign or person.Emily and aries dragons are stand-outs,love them or hate them.Aries dragons can be inspirational leaders,particularly when they curb their excesses and allow their positive qualities to shine.Emily has not shown us Aries Dragon at its best and may never do so because she hasn't got the kind of modifying elements that could help her to understand others' points of views.

She has no water elements in her star-chart which is very telling.This is why she struggles to sound sincere when expressing her feelings.She's not a feelings-orientated person and emotional expression is not her strength. Charley, for all her hot air, is a cancer, and as such is more clued into her emotional-side than Emily.

Emily's fate sign to learn from is pisces and it's pisces empathetic ability to put itself in others' shoes,that Emily must strive for spiritually.Her polar sign, Libra Dog, can also teach her the virtues of consideration of others and co-operation rather than going it alone, autocratically and impetuously.In return she can add something to these signs/lives as clearly she has to several on the forum.

Having her mercury[thinking/reasoning] also in aries is not the problem.Jumping to conclusions, short attention-span and believing yourself to be more intelligent than you really are! One in three aries sunsigns will also have mercury in aries and it can be a strength,giving focus and direction to one's life, despite the possible drawbacks.

No,the real stumbling block is her moon also being in aries.Our moonsign shows our emotional responses and those with aries moon, may jump into things without thinking,in the pursuit of adventure and challenges.Instinct rather than reason rules and this is one of the causes of Emily's hot-headedness and seemingly mindless actions.

Naive and making the same mistakes over and over again, despite the scars.Too impulsive and sure of oneself to take advice.One of the side-effects is a tendency to suffer severe headaches.Underneath it all,there can be an insecurity which is so well-masked that even the person, themselves are not aware of it.Emily has alot to contend with here.

Her venus[values] and mars[how we act] show a strong air influence.Her venus is in gemini, suggesting variety is the spice of life for Emily.Cannot be tied down and needs change and excitement constantly in her life.A restless soul.

She'd not tolerate possessiveness in a relationship and any lover of hers would have to accept that she would need to continue her wide circle of friends...and it would be wide.Venus in gemini is the eternal social butterfly, superficial to some but dazzling to others.This side of Emily is in keeping with much of her aries qualities, the lighter touch of air complimenting her aries fire.

Her mars is in aquarius and once again, this side of her is in accord with her multiple aries and her gemini venus.Aquarius,as an energy is unconventional and rebellious but has strong principles.She is forever shooting herself in the foot with her impulsive aries actions,yet seemingly shocked at what she's done.

Some will see her as insincere but her aquarius-side would be shocked and would prefer to have acted in a different way.This said,mars in aquarius doesn't pull its punches either.Heated arguments rather than open-minded discussions may arise. With such an explosive concoction of hot air,Emily is the original Fire and Air person, inspirational and infuriating at the same time.

There will be half a million aries dragons in the UK but few with Emily's extra fire and air add-ons.For all her flaws,I do find something compelling about Emily and will hold my hands up.

[dawnrayd]

Originally Posted by zzenzero

..<snip>.. For all her flaws,I do find something compelling about Emily and will hold my hands up.

I totally agree, but for none of the reasons you have said.

[Backward Boy]

I think it's posts like these that the word baloney was invented for.

[madpiano]

heya

where do you find this stuff ?

[Integral]

Emily's fate sign to learn from is pisces and it's pisces empathetic ability to put itself in others' shoes,that Emily must strive for spiritually.

As a Pisces, this sums up how I felt. I wanted to protect her from herself.

[afcbfan]

I must admit I haven't read any of the OP (Astrology = bollocks is my opinion (No offence, like )), but I'm guessing zzenzero may share Nostradamus's ability to predict the past, if not the future, given his (for it is a he ) Ziggy nomination predictions.

Originally Posted by zzenzero

He'll not likely nominate (Shabnam) despite some fms suggesting Shabnam is likely.

I can't see him nominating Emily with her dragon friend to his monkey.

[zzenzero]

Originally Posted by afcbfan

I must admit I haven't read any of the OP (Astrology = bollocks is my opinion (No offence, like )), but I'm guessing zzenzero may share Nostradamus's ability to predict the past, if not the future, given his (for it is a he ) Ziggy nomination predictions.

Yes you've got me there.I wasn't good at reading Ziggy.
I hadn't planned for Emily crossing Chanelle... and therefore Ziggy.Nor had I planned for Shabnam telling him at dinner that she wanted to leave.

Astrological insight can only go so far [as I often say]
Given my mis-reading of Ziggy, I can understand why you would skip my reading of Emily above.
Nice one, afcbfan, and I'll have to keep on my toes in the future..... and watch what I say.Big Brother may be watching.

[jojo the joyful]

Originally Posted by Backward Boy

I think it's posts like these that the word baloney was invented for.

Thats a bit harsh, ZZen has usually been quite right with her character predictions in the past. Not fortune telling but working out how everything will proberbly pann out.

Now Zzen, can you please work out the best day & time to give birth to the 21st centuries answer to Mother Theresa ( preferbly after Feb 2008) & then I shall book my self in for an elective inducement

[zzenzero]

Originally Posted by Integral

As a Pisces, this sums up how I felt. I wanted to protect her from herself.

That's very interesting.Thanks for that.
It's logical for pisces to take an interest in aries because if one follows "progressions" then pisces spends 30 years of its life going through some of aries' experiences.Close links to re-incarnation, too.

Alex Sibley was born right on the cusp of pisces/aries.

[zzenzero]

Originally Posted by madpiano

heya

where do you find this stuff ?

It's just my interpretation of what was up there in the sky when Emily was born.I'd call it a science but there's many who wouldn't.Stargazers may differ,slightly, given the same data but the theory itself goes back a few thousand years.
Russell Grant gave his interpretation of Aisleyne's chart last year and although he's far more knowledgeable than I am, I emailed him to disagree on some fundamental aspects of his reading.So there's plenty of healthy debate in astrology as in anything else.Not that he replied to me but then he doesn't feed in the chinese astro, as I do,so our points of reference are not exactly the same.

[Veri]

Hi, zzenzero. Your astrological analysis is interesting, as always. Did you do them for the BB7 HMs? If so, I must have missed them.

[zzenzero]

Originally Posted by jojo the joyful

Thats a bit harsh, ZZen has usually been quite right with her character predictions in the past. Not fortune telling but working out how everything will proberbly pann out.

Now Zzen, can you please work out the best day & time to give birth to the 21st centuries answer to Mother Theresa ( preferbly after Feb 2008) & then I shall book my self in for an elective inducement

Thanks for that, jojo.
There are those who actually do what you ask but it's beyond my own skills/experience.
Having said that some people may decide to have a child which will be born of a particular sign that ties in with their own or isn't likely to clash! A full month's leeway can make sure such would happen.
How better for an astrologer/zodiac fan to get to know a sign such as scorpio or pisces than by ensuring such is born into their family.
In china, parents try to avoid giving birth in a fire-horse year but try hard to produce a dragon year child.
There's glory!

[Kyomii]

I am a Scorpio dragon with Leo rising.

[zzenzero]

Originally Posted by Veri

Hi, zzenzero. Your astrological analysis is interesting, as always. Did you do them for the BB7 HMs? If so, I must have missed them.

I did a few, Veri, but they tended to disappear of the front pages pretty quickly!
I did bump up a few but not very often.
Thanks for your comments and support.

[zzenzero]

Originally Posted by Kyomii

I am a Scorpio dragon with Leo rising.

That, my friend, is a fascinating combination.I've leo rising myself.... you should certainly come across positively and enthusiastically.Charm personnified!Pretty magnetic at interviews, I'd guess.If you do into politics, please start a new party.We could do with one.
I trust you watch the excesses, though.

[Lemmywinks]

I think astrology is a load, but I want to big up the OP for remaining so urbane in the face of the baiting he's had in this thread

Did the stars predict Emilys catastrophic Gaff? Surely such a pivotal and defining moment in her life would be written in the sky?

[Kyomii]

Originally Posted by zzenzero

That, my friend, is a fascinating combination.I've leo rising myself.... you should certainly come across positively and enthusiastically.Charm personnified!Pretty magnetic at interviews, I'd guess.If you do into politics, please start a new party.We could do with one.
I trust you watch the excesses, though.

All I can say on here (I can give more details elsewhere), is that I have had a very harsh life BUT, I am often told I am a very strong person/character because of it because I have never dwelled on it but preferred to learn.

Those who know me often say they cannot understand how I am still alive and look at me as a very strong woman, but I don't see it.

I do think the combination of Scorpio/Dragon and Leo is what has enabled me to rise above the mess.

Magnetism is there so I have been told, and politics is of interest to me but in the way of bringing resolve to current issues.

I have worked as a counseller (as in counselling others) and found that people told me their secrets easily that they had never breathed to anyone and were confused why they had told me LOL

[zzenzero]

Originally Posted by Lemmywinks

I think astrology is a load, but I want to big up the OP for remaining so urbane in the face of the baiting he's had in this thread

Did the stars predict Emilys catastrophic Gaff?

Thanks Lemmywinks.[Lemmy as in Motorhead?]
Yes the stars did predict it in as much as her character has it in her to do so at any time, given her astro- energies/influences.But not specifically on the day she did so and the subject/remark she made.

[zzenzero]

Originally Posted by Kyomii

All I can say on here (I can give more details elsewhere), is that I have had a very harsh life BUT, I am often told I am a very strong person/character because of it because I have never dwelled on it but preferred to learn.

Those who know me often say they cannot understand how I am still alive and look at me as a very strong woman, but I don't see it.

I do think the combination of Scorpio/Dragon and Leo is what has enabled me to rise above the mess.

Magnetism is there so I have been told, and politics is of interest to me but in the way of bringing resolve to current issues.

I have worked as a counseller (as in counselling others) and found that people told me their secrets easily that they had never breathed to anyone and were confused why they had told me LOL

An excellent response and totaly in keeping with the astro-data you gave.
I like that you have been able to rise above your misfortunes.Counselling sounds ideal and I can understand why people looked to you as they have.

Scorpio is also known as the eagle and the phoenix and very much so in your case.Any leo placement is good for picking oneself up and looking to the positive.

All thebest

[trickyvik]

She has no water elements in her star-chart which is very telling.This is why she struggles to sound sincere when expressing her feelings.She's not a feelings-orientated person and emotional expression is not her strength. Charley, for all her hot air, is a cancer, and as such is more clued into her emotional-side than Emily.

Emily's fate sign to learn from is pisces and it's pisces empathetic ability to put itself in others' shoes,that Emily must strive for spiritually.Her polar sign, Libra Dog, can also teach her the virtues of consideration of others and co-operation rather than going it alone, autocratically and impetuously.In return she can add something to these signs/lives as clearly she has to several on the forum.

thanks for taking the time to post the OP It was interesting and in particular, for me, the part I have quoted.

I am a Pisces and would strongly agree with what you have said.

[Lemmywinks]

Originally Posted by zzenzero

Thanks Lemmywinks.[Lemmy as in Motorhead?]

Nah, Lemmywinks, the bravest hamster in the world, he got trapped inside a gay mans ass.


Lemmiwink's journey is distant, far and fast! To find his way out of a gay man's ass! The road ahead is filled with danger and fright! But push onward Lemmiwinks with all of your might!

I spelled my forum name wrong though, because I'm boderline retarded.

[Kyomii]

Originally Posted by zzenzero

An excellent response and totaly in keeping with the astro-data you gave.
I like that you have been able to rise above your misfortunes.Counselling sounds ideal and I can understand why people looked to you as they have.

Scorpio is also known as the eagle and the phoenix and very much so in your case.Any leo placement is good for picking oneself up and looking to the positive.

All thebest

Thankyou Zen Zen

[zzenzero]

Originally Posted by trickyvik

thanks for taking the time to post the OP It was interesting and in particular, for me, the part I have quoted.

I am a Pisces and would strongly agree with what you have said.

In my own chart, pisces is my learning curve/fate and I must admit, it's a sign/energy that I've always found fascinating as well as the people I've known of the sign.
Whenever I look at the chart of a hm [or indeed anyone] I find myself becoming empathetic to that person and their struggles/aspirations.
Thank you for your own reply and comments.


The following Beatles lyrics have always seemed as if they were written with Pisces in "mind".


listen to the colour of your dreams...
turn off your mind, relax and float downstream
then it's not dying, then it's not dying
lay down all thoughts, surrender to the void
and it is shining, it is shining
now you may see the meaning of within
it is being, it is being
love is all, love is everyone
and it is knowing, andit is knowing
let ignorance and hate mingle with dead
it is believing, it is believing
oh play the game, existence to the end
of the beginning, of the beginning
of the beginning, beginning