[Super_Steve]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/...astonbury.html

Tragic events, surely everyones thoughts go out to his family and friends.

This is part of the reason why I am not over keen on going to music festivals like this. The music wil be amazing, but it is ruined by mindless fools who insist on taking drugs. What are they thinking? Are the risks of dying not enough? Is it really worth a 10 minute kick knowing fine well that you could be killing yourself.

I do have sympathy for his family and friends, but I can't help but think that the guy was quite selfish in the way he has died. Imagine his parents, brother, sister, cousin, aunty, uncle etc. living their lives knowing that a family member died using drugs at a bloody music festival.

So unfair.

[Neck_Romancer]

There are plenty of mindless fools who don't take drugs.

I've been to plenty of festivals and never had one spot of bother just a bloody great time, with and without drugs.

[grotbags1975]

Eh? sure its not good he's died, as for the drugs, well they're essential.

[jen0607]

I feel for his family, but anyone who takes illegal drugs are just asking for trouble I'm afraid.

How does anyone actually know what they are taking?

[mnt99york]

I find in general that people who have drunk too much alcohol are far more unpleasant to be around than people who have taken drugs!

[Milky Joe]

Oh god here we go again, i could do the usual "how many people die from alcohol poisoning/related deaths" but i cant be arsed.

[Somner]

Originally Posted by jen0607

I feel for his family, but anyone who takes illegal drugs are just asking for trouble I'm afraid.

As opposed to 'legal' drugs, such as alcohol and tobacco?

This thing about classifying the danger of a drug based on whether it's legal or illegal is beyond me. There's far less dangers in cannabis than tobacco or alcohol, yet they're still illegal and legal respectively.

Anyway, different discussion entirely I guess.

[_Zammo]

Originally Posted by mnt99york

I find in general that people who have drunk too much alcohol are far more unpleasant to be around than people who have taken drugs!

I agree, except I wouldn't wanna be around people on PCP

[Ruokasi]

..I was at O2 wireless last weekend and sure enough, a guy comes up near the end and goes "I've got some pictures of myself".. I was like "Uh, no.." but after he walked away, the people I was with mentioned that he actually said "I've got some pills if you want some..."

Honestly, I'm not an old person, and haven't been to any festivals before, so was a bit suprised by this.

I do think it's a bit sad when people can't enjoy themselves without any drugs legal/non-legal. I mean, surely you can have as much fun listening to music when you're sober?

Although, maybe we should also be talking about at parties and other times.. I know of someone who considers themself a "social smoker" and smokes at every party whilst getting drunk. I just don't understand why, to be honest. I'm sure she could fit in without needing to smoke..

[Super_Steve]

Its because people get into there stupid heads that in order to be cool and part of the in corwd, you have to take some sort of illegal substance.

I often get relied at drug users, because a lot of them end up in reha, paid for by taxes, and it frustrates me because I don't want to pay for something that someone has brought upon themselves.

Back to the topic though, police need to search every member of the public who walks through the doors. Sodding drug dealers ruin it for everyone. Whoever sold him those drugs needs to be done for murder. I bet the sadistic prick is sitting in his bedsit counting his tenners. Sick.

[xpletive]

200,000 people X 3 days - statistically, it's not all that surprising if one person dies.

[mnt99york]

Originally Posted by Super_Steve

Its because people get into there stupid heads that in order to be cool and part of the in corwd, you have to take some sort of illegal substance.

I often get relied at drug users, because a lot of them end up in reha, paid for by taxes, and it frustrates me because I don't want to pay for something that someone has brought upon themselves.

I presume you feel the same about the (far greater) numbers of people who require NHS treatment from cigarettes, alcohol or over-eating? All of which cost the NHS far more than illegal drugs. And also presumably you do none of these things yourself.

[_Zammo]

Originally Posted by Super_Steve

Its because people get into there stupid heads that in order to be cool and part of the in corwd, you have to take some sort of illegal substance.

I often get relied at drug users, because a lot of them end up in reha, paid for by taxes, and it frustrates me because I don't want to pay for something that someone has brought upon themselves.

Back to the topic though, police need to search every member of the public who walks through the doors. Sodding drug dealers ruin it for everyone. Whoever sold him those drugs needs to be done for murder. I bet the sadistic prick is sitting in his bedsit counting his tenners. Sick.

Sorry Super_Steve but are you the person who produces the Talk to Frank bollox leaflets???
Many people i know including myself don't and have never done drugs to be cool or be part of a crowd, that's a typical response from a straight person.
I used to take E's as I enjoyed the experience and opened up more and loved dancing all night to the music, I didn't do it to fit in.
No one's forced to take drugs like that, they do it out of choice, fair enough it's Russian roulette but in my opinion you could not touch them and get hit by a bus tommorrow.

[Super_Steve]

Originally Posted by _Zammo

Sorry Super_Steve but are you the person who produces the Talk to Frank bollox leaflets???
Many people i know including myself don't and have never done drugs to be cool or be part of a crowd, that's a typical response from a straight person.
I used to take E's as I enjoyed the experience and opened up more and loved dancing all night to the music, I didn't do it to fit in.
No one's forced to take drugs like that, they do it out of choice, fair enough it's Russian roulette but in my opinion you could not touch them and get hit by a bus tommorrow.

The old "I could be hit by a bus tomorrow" theory.

I just don't get why people play this Russian Roulette, just for the sake of a "buzz." It's really not worth it. That's my opinion anyway.

[jen0607]

Originally Posted by Somner

As opposed to 'legal' drugs, such as alcohol and tobacco?

This thing about classifying the danger of a drug based on whether it's legal or illegal is beyond me. There's far less dangers in cannabis than tobacco or alcohol, yet they're still illegal and legal respectively.

Anyway, different discussion entirely I guess.

Oh please, if you are going to quote me, don't take it out of context, and read the whole post....

At least you know what is in alcohol and cigarettes. Dealers can cut cocaine, speed, e's etc with all sorts of rubbish. You have no idea how pure it is. It is a mug's game. I'm not saying booze and fags are healthy though....

[jen0607]

Originally Posted by mnt99york

I presume you feel the same about the (far greater) numbers of people who require NHS treatment from cigarettes, alcohol or over-eating? All of which cost the NHS far more than illegal drugs. And also presumably you do none of these things yourself.

People who smoke and drink pay for their NHS treatment through the huge tax they pay on it.

I personally think all these drugs should be legalised. Then tax them as they do with the current legal drugs.

[lozza73]

Originally Posted by mnt99york

I find in general that people who have drunk too much alcohol are far more unpleasant to be around than people who have taken drugs!

..yeah because people dependent on alcohol tend to go round mugging and bashing up old grannies for the rings on on their fingers and pension books, whereas people dependent on drugs are thoroughly pleasant individuals with an enquiring mind! Oh FFS, get real!

[Super_Steve]

Originally Posted by jen0607

People who smoke and drink pay for their NHS treatment through the huge tax they pay on it.

I personally think all these drugs should be legalised. Then tax them as they do with the current legal drugs.

Maybe that would work. It would save the real hard workers of the country having to spend their hard earned dollar on getting some of these bums off their addiction to whatever crap they decide to take.

At the end of the day, there are far more worthy causes than drug rehab clinics such as homelessness, understaffed hospitals etc. Just stick them all in jail, and not one of those ones that requires them to have TV's, pool tables and what have you.

[Tweacle Tart]

Originally Posted by _Zammo

Many people i know including myself don't and have never done drugs to be cool or be part of a crowd, that's a typical response from a straight person.
I used to take E's as I enjoyed the experience and opened up more and loved dancing all night to the music, I didn't do it to fit in.
No one's forced to take drugs like that, they do it out of choice, fair enough it's Russian roulette but in my opinion you could not touch them and get hit by a bus tommorrow.

Should have just said no Zammo

[_Zammo]

Originally Posted by Super_Steve

Maybe that would work. It would save the real hard workers of the country having to spend their hard earned dollar on getting some of these bums off their addiction to whatever crap they decide to take.

At the end of the day, there are far more worthy causes than drug rehab clinics such as homelessness, understaffed hospitals etc. Just stick them all in jail, and not one of those ones that requires them to have TV's, pool tables and what have you.

Thing is with prison it doesn't solve the problem, drugs even get smuggled inside and i've known people who have gone in clean and come out hooked on heroin, they've taken it to help cope in there and pass the time.
Rehabilation has helped people in the long run stay clean and out of their addiction, which is more cost effective.

[_Zammo]

Originally Posted by Tweacle Tart

Should have just said no Zammo

[Super_Steve]

Originally Posted by _Zammo

Thing is with prison it doesn't solve the problem, drugs even get smuggled inside and i've known people who have gone in clean and come out hooked on heroin, they've taken it to help cope in there and pass the time.
Rehabilation has helped people in the long run stay clean and out of their addiction, which is more cost effective.

I'm not really arsed about them. I'm more bothered about the welfare of society. Of me, my parents, my brother, my mates, my granny etc. who might be walking down the street only to be mugged by some moron who needs his or her fix.

As soon as peple like this commit a crime, they should loose all human rights because they aren't human. They are monsters.

[x_Charl_x]

Each to their own, but I would never take drugs or ever consider it. If you do, you're just asking for health problems in my opinion. Do feel sorry for his family though.

[Sezer07]

Fckin druggie

[_Zammo]

Originally Posted by Super_Steve

I'm not really arsed about them. I'm more bothered about the welfare of society. Of me, my parents, my brother, my mates, my granny etc. who might be walking down the street only to be mugged by some moron who needs his or her fix.

As soon as peple like this commit a crime, they should loose all human rights because they aren't human. They are monsters.

Not all are monsters, some have been fcuked by society such as people who have been abused, no ones been there to help them, they've been kicked from pillar to post by social services and end up on drugs.
It's an easy thing to get caught up in if someones very vulnerable but to some people everythings just black and white in life.