Am I The Only One Who Doesnt Hate Ziggy? - Big Brother

RabidWolverine · 04-07-2007, 21:38

Okay first off I know people will disagree with me but if you do try and be adult about it and not resort to insults because its pointless and makes you look bad.

Now by no means do I really like Ziggy or want him to win for that matter. Sometimes I think he has a very smug look on his face that needs wiping off but most of the time he seems the un announced victim. We see him having a hard time being in the middle of Charley and Chanelle while he is just trying to create a suitable living environment. I know he sticks up for Chanelle in her arguments but if your girlfriend/boyfriend was in an argument you would do the same.

Also some people have a go at him for going on about the age gap between he and Chanelle...if I was in his shoes id be cautious too about dating someone 7 years younger. (Though granted I am 18 if I dated someone 7 years younger id be in a lot of trouble

)

For the most part I see Ziggy as being genuine to himself, I guess you could consider this topic as either a refuge for Ziggy fans or a place to in a mature way discuss why he should be liked/disliked.

Thank You

Nathan.

betty2009 · 04-07-2007, 21:39

i dont hate any of them, but people do hate them because it makes them feel better... it's the british way dont you know

willywonker · 04-07-2007, 21:39

I don't, i don't want him to win, but don't mind the bloke.

-DC- · 04-07-2007, 21:41

You're not alone. I agree, as does my wife. He seems like a reasonably normal person stuck in an impossible situation. Not saying I like him or anything, but I really don't get the bitter, bitter hatred shown by some.

pammi_i · 04-07-2007, 21:42

I don't hate him. I don't especially like him but I really don't hate him. I don't think he's a bad bloke, particularly as blokes go really. I feel rather sorry for him at the moment. It was hard for him in the first week, and he is now realising that his survival strategy in the first weeks (because I really do believe that's exactly what it was) is backfiring on him and he knows it.

I'm sure he really does like Chanelle, but you know I actually think that Chanelle would like some breathing space too and that's why she's always picking rows with him. She keeps telling him to go and sleep somewhere else. She feels crowded too! I think that she is, either consciously or subconsciously, trying to push him away. Both feel a bit guilty of this and so there is this push-pull dynamic between them which neither can seem to break. Charley's stirring doesn't help, but she's nowhere near as important in that dynamic as she thinks she is.

Dovaly · 04-07-2007, 21:42

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Originally Posted by RabidWolverine

Okay first off I know people will disagree with me but if you do try and be adult about it and not resort to insults because its pointless and makes you look bad.

Now by no means do I really like Ziggy or want him to win for that matter. Sometimes I think he has a very smug look on his face that needs wiping off but most of the time he seems the un announced victim. We see him having a hard time being in the middle of Charley and Chanelle while he is just trying to create a suitable living environment. I know he sticks up for Chanelle in her arguments but if your girlfriend/boyfriend was in an argument you would do the same.

Also some people have a go at him for going on about the age gap between he and Chanelle...if I was in his shoes id be cautious too about dating someone 7 years younger. (Though granted I am 18 if I dated someone 7 years younger id be in a lot of trouble

)

For the most part I see Ziggy as being genuine to himself, I guess you could consider this topic as either a refuge for Ziggy fans or a place to in a mature way discuss why he should be liked/disliked.

Thank You

Nathan.

I agree with your post.

I don't dislike Ziggy at all.He has said and done some stupid stuff in the house(Who hasnt?) but he seems to have amassed as large a crowd who hate him as Charley has but without as much reason.

Bluebell Wood · 04-07-2007, 21:45

I don't hate Ziggy, in fact I don't hate any of them - not even Charley.
Those who hate suffer much more than those who are hated.

Madge · 04-07-2007, 21:47

I like him. I think he has an awful time in there.

04-07-2007, 21:48

I don't hate Ziggy. He has such a hard time in there, I can't help feeling sorry for him.

HighFive! · 04-07-2007, 21:49

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Originally Posted by willywonker

I don't, i don't want him to win, but don't mind the bloke.

I share this opinion.

RabidWolverine · 04-07-2007, 21:49

I must say this has me quite relieved. I just have watched the forums recently and seen so many topics bashing the man and I dont quite understand what he has done to deserve it.

lisamaxwell_fan · 04-07-2007, 21:51

I really like Ziggy. I think he's alright

Dovaly · 04-07-2007, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by RabidWolverine

I must say this has me quite relieved. I just have watched the forums recently and seen so many topics bashing the man and I dont quite understand what he has done to deserve it.

I have wondered the same thing.
Me and my Fiance both think he's OK.

wurzelina · 04-07-2007, 21:52

I like Ziggy. He's not my favourite HM, but I guess he comes near the top of my favourites list. To me, he just seems like a nice-ish, pretty average guy trying to stay sane in an increasingly contentious and bitchy environment. I find myself bemused by the extreme animosity that he inspires in some FMs.

bigbruvvaluvvau · 04-07-2007, 21:52

Ziggy is my favourite housemate

Beau · 04-07-2007, 21:52

I think Ziggy has got himself into a situation which he knows he can't get out of without it looking bad. Its called a no win situation which is of course where he's headed. However, he's just a guy who keeps digging himself deeper and deeper and I can't help but feel sorry for him.

Like others, I don't hate him or particularly like him either. I actually would like to see him in the house without Chanelle as I think he would be a lot of fun.

Uniqueq · 04-07-2007, 21:53

I don't dislike Ziggy, i'm not a huge fan but i like the bloke, he has been annoying at times, as all the HM's have, i don't see the smugness that his haters see so often. I do think he has got into a situation with Chanelle that he is not entirely happy with, she does seem very immature as far as their relationship aspects go.

Some of the comments i see about Ziggy are totally uncalled for (the same for other HM's), i have noticed some people only go on about someone to belittle them, if you don't like the HM then why constantly talk about them?

Say something they have done that really annoys you, then move on is my motto

Denise · 04-07-2007, 21:53

I don't hate him, he isn't my favourite in there but he hasn't done anything to make me dislike him. I actually feel sorry for him sometimes, he is a bit more mature than most of the others and struggles to cope with all the arguing and lies.

Sarahmonial · 04-07-2007, 21:54

No don't worry theres lots of people that like Ziggy, myself included.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...y+appreciation

shepster34 · 04-07-2007, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by -DC-

You're not alone. I agree, as does my wife. He seems like a reasonably normal person stuck in an impossible situation. Not saying I like him or anything, but I really don't get the bitter, bitter hatred shown by some.

we are the same in our household too! he's an ok bloke, it wouldnt bother me if he won.... though i know he wont.

Carrierbag Head · 04-07-2007, 21:58

I find it hard to dislike him to be honest. Although he does have the air of a politician about him at times. It feels a bit like watching Tony Blair sometimes, which makes me a little wary of him. But he's never really done anything to make me dislike him.

I don't really get the hatred of him on the boards.

Skeats · 04-07-2007, 21:58

I like him too. I prefer men to have manners even if they are supposedly arrogant. Women apparently (according to new research) like arrogance in a man.

As for manipulativeness he has had to learn quickly after his first week so that he could survive.

I like the more intelligent hms like Jonathan and Gerry as well. History being one of my interests I wouldn't find Gerry boring either.

daisybee · 04-07-2007, 21:58

i really like ziggy i think he is getting a hard time by ppl

Pitman · 04-07-2007, 22:00

his mum doesn't hate him either so you are not the only one, his dog despises him though.

Elle · 04-07-2007, 22:01

I don't hate Ziggy. I definitely don't feel sorry for him. He was fooled into thinking he was the King of the Castle by Big Brother. He made his own uncomfortable bed. Showing favoritism was a bad move. Using Chanelle another. All in one foul swoop.

04-07-2007, 21:38	#1
RabidWolverine Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 376	Am I The Only One Who Doesnt Hate Ziggy? Okay first off I know people will disagree with me but if you do try and be adult about it and not resort to insults because its pointless and makes you look bad. Now by no means do I really like Ziggy or want him to win for that matter. Sometimes I think he has a very smug look on his face that needs wiping off but most of the time he seems the un announced victim. We see him having a hard time being in the middle of Charley and Chanelle while he is just trying to create a suitable living environment. I know he sticks up for Chanelle in her arguments but if your girlfriend/boyfriend was in an argument you would do the same. Also some people have a go at him for going on about the age gap between he and Chanelle...if I was in his shoes id be cautious too about dating someone 7 years younger. (Though granted I am 18 if I dated someone 7 years younger id be in a lot of trouble ) For the most part I see Ziggy as being genuine to himself, I guess you could consider this topic as either a refuge for Ziggy fans or a place to in a mature way discuss why he should be liked/disliked. Thank You Nathan.

04-07-2007, 21:58	#22
Skeats Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 706	I like him too. I prefer men to have manners even if they are supposedly arrogant. Women apparently (according to new research) like arrogance in a man. As for manipulativeness he has had to learn quickly after his first week so that he could survive. I like the more intelligent hms like Jonathan and Gerry as well. History being one of my interests I wouldn't find Gerry boring either. Last edited by Skeats : 04-07-2007 at 22:02. Reason: incomplete

04-07-2007, 21:39	#2
betty2009 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cardiff Services: NTHell, Posts: 1,149	i dont hate any of them, but people do hate them because it makes them feel better... it's the british way dont you know

04-07-2007, 21:39	#3
willywonker Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 10,337	I don't, i don't want him to win, but don't mind the bloke.

04-07-2007, 21:41	#4
-DC- Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Services: Sky+ HD -> Sony KDL-40W4500 Posts: 842	You're not alone. I agree, as does my wife. He seems like a reasonably normal person stuck in an impossible situation. Not saying I like him or anything, but I really don't get the bitter, bitter hatred shown by some.

04-07-2007, 21:42	#5
pammi_i Inactive Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,534 Blog Entries: 3	I don't hate him. I don't especially like him but I really don't hate him. I don't think he's a bad bloke, particularly as blokes go really. I feel rather sorry for him at the moment. It was hard for him in the first week, and he is now realising that his survival strategy in the first weeks (because I really do believe that's exactly what it was) is backfiring on him and he knows it. I'm sure he really does like Chanelle, but you know I actually think that Chanelle would like some breathing space too and that's why she's always picking rows with him. She keeps telling him to go and sleep somewhere else. She feels crowded too! I think that she is, either consciously or subconsciously, trying to push him away. Both feel a bit guilty of this and so there is this push-pull dynamic between them which neither can seem to break. Charley's stirring doesn't help, but she's nowhere near as important in that dynamic as she thinks she is.

04-07-2007, 21:45	#7
Bluebell Wood Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 904	I don't hate Ziggy, in fact I don't hate any of them - not even Charley. Those who hate suffer much more than those who are hated.

04-07-2007, 21:47	#8
Madge Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ireland ♀ Services: VM Posts: 4,584	I like him. I think he has an awful time in there.

04-07-2007, 21:48	#9
Fizzy Dog Posts: n/a	I don't hate Ziggy. He has such a hard time in there, I can't help feeling sorry for him.

04-07-2007, 21:49	#11
RabidWolverine Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 376	I must say this has me quite relieved. I just have watched the forums recently and seen so many topics bashing the man and I dont quite understand what he has done to deserve it.

04-07-2007, 21:51	#12
lisamaxwell_fan Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20	I really like Ziggy. I think he's alright

04-07-2007, 21:52	#14
wurzelina Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 982	I like Ziggy. He's not my favourite HM, but I guess he comes near the top of my favourites list. To me, he just seems like a nice-ish, pretty average guy trying to stay sane in an increasingly contentious and bitchy environment. I find myself bemused by the extreme animosity that he inspires in some FMs.

04-07-2007, 21:52	#15
bigbruvvaluvvau Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,337	Ziggy is my favourite housemate

04-07-2007, 21:52	#16
Beau Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Aberdeenshire Services: Sky digital Posts: 1,725	I think Ziggy has got himself into a situation which he knows he can't get out of without it looking bad. Its called a no win situation which is of course where he's headed. However, he's just a guy who keeps digging himself deeper and deeper and I can't help but feel sorry for him. Like others, I don't hate him or particularly like him either. I actually would like to see him in the house without Chanelle as I think he would be a lot of fun.

04-07-2007, 21:53	#17
Uniqueq Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,869	I don't dislike Ziggy, i'm not a huge fan but i like the bloke, he has been annoying at times, as all the HM's have, i don't see the smugness that his haters see so often. I do think he has got into a situation with Chanelle that he is not entirely happy with, she does seem very immature as far as their relationship aspects go. Some of the comments i see about Ziggy are totally uncalled for (the same for other HM's), i have noticed some people only go on about someone to belittle them, if you don't like the HM then why constantly talk about them? Say something they have done that really annoys you, then move on is my motto

04-07-2007, 21:53	#18
Denise Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Hampshire Posts: 5,462	I don't hate him, he isn't my favourite in there but he hasn't done anything to make me dislike him. I actually feel sorry for him sometimes, he is a bit more mature than most of the others and struggles to cope with all the arguing and lies.

04-07-2007, 21:54	#19
Sarahmonial Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Surrey England UK Posts: 2,382	No don't worry theres lots of people that like Ziggy, myself included. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...y+appreciation

04-07-2007, 21:58	#21
Carrierbag Head Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Gender: Female Location: Must logout & do summat useful Services: Male lesbianism, pansy-assed liberalism Posts: 4,806	I find it hard to dislike him to be honest. Although he does have the air of a politician about him at times. It feels a bit like watching Tony Blair sometimes, which makes me a little wary of him. But he's never really done anything to make me dislike him. I don't really get the hatred of him on the boards.

04-07-2007, 21:58	#23
daisybee Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 6,277	i really like ziggy i think he is getting a hard time by ppl

04-07-2007, 22:00	#24
Pitman Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London Services: Big Brother House Posts: 5,149	his mum doesn't hate him either so you are not the only one, his dog despises him though.

04-07-2007, 22:01	#25
Elle Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wandering around Services: Virgin Posts: 3,906	I don't hate Ziggy. I definitely don't feel sorry for him. He was fooled into thinking he was the King of the Castle by Big Brother. He made his own uncomfortable bed. Showing favoritism was a bad move. Using Chanelle another. All in one foul swoop.