I'm ashamed of what this country calls "legends" or "greats" - Page 3 - Showbiz

frasera · 03-11-2009, 19:24

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Originally Posted by BluseyLou

That is very debatable none of them have any talent so Paris Hilton and her USA peers are just as talentless as the British ones!

well no lohan can be decent in films, paris is a marketing pro... katie price is just known for big tits:P the only comparable one are the kardashians.

Tabbythecat · 03-11-2009, 19:25

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Originally Posted by stvn758

Garth Brooks?

BTW did you know that his real first name is Troyal

frasera · 03-11-2009, 19:27

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Originally Posted by zx50

We are talking about legends you know. How on earth can Take That be considered a legend? The same goes for Billie Piper - Leona Lewis - Katherine Jenkins - Susan Boyle [are you serious] - Denis Van Outen - Daniel Radcliffe. There's basically quite a few names in there that don't come under the title of legend.

yea his list was slightly ridiculous. some like connie fischer are barely famous in the uk, never mind the world. lot of the rest are minor fame. legend is so big people just know you even if they don't care for your particular talent. even granny knows who michael jackson is, its a pervasive type of fame you have to have before you can be legendary, not a flash in the pan pop fame which fades fast.

BluseyLou · 03-11-2009, 19:27

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Originally Posted by frasera

well no lohan can be decent in films, paris is a marketing pro... katie price is just known for big tits:P the only comparable one are the kardashians.

Yep I agree Lyndsey is not too bad in the film I have seen her in and Katie Price is a pair of huge knockers with a face attached and that is all ,though I have to say Katie can match Paris in the marketing herself stakes

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LynxSoldier · 03-11-2009, 20:13

Leona Lewis will have that title some day, you'll see. Alexandra too with the right marketing and songs.

Takkiya · 03-11-2009, 22:16

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Originally Posted by BluseyLou

Elizabeth Taylor is British isn't she? she would certainly be considered a legend.

She's a British born American.

zx50 · 03-11-2009, 22:39

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Originally Posted by LynxSoldier

Leona Lewis will have that title some day, you'll see. Alexandra too with the right marketing and songs.

Yes, but nowhere near yet though. If they keep selling albums and singles for a few decades, THEN they'll earn the title of legend. Leona and Alexandra's only just started out as artists. There's most likely people who haven't got a clue who they are. Once they reach the status of 'almost everyone knows who we are', THEN they'll become legends.

D***** · 03-11-2009, 23:11

Graham Norton is Irish.

As you were...

tenchgirl · 03-11-2009, 23:20

Vivenne Leigh was i reckon, todays "stars" just have no finesse, presence, & in most cases no dignity.

zx50 · 03-11-2009, 23:51

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Originally Posted by tenchgirl

Vivenne Leigh was i reckon, todays "stars" just have no finesse, presence, & in most cases no dignity.

Most of the actors/actresses of today are willing to do almost anything just to get that part in a film. Tacky is what a lot of todays' films are the definition of.

exlordlucan · 04-11-2009, 02:07

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Originally Posted by Rob22

America gave us the most important man in pop, helping charity's, the most bought album ever released, countless number 1's (I dont need to say anymore, because you know who I'm referring too).

I guess you really mean Elvis

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Originally Posted by Rob22

and what can we offer America? the likes of Kerry Katona, Katie and Peter, Russell Brand?

the only real icon in the UK is Elton John.

this country's talent is a joke.

Forget those examples, worthless as they are, you're talking past tense above so I'll say The Beatles, Cream, Kinks etc etc.

Ber · 04-11-2009, 06:58

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Originally Posted by tenchgirl

Vivenne Leigh was i reckon, todays "stars" just have no finesse, presence, & in most cases no dignity.

Angela Lansbury, Archibald Leach and Charlie Chaplin are doing/did quite well for themselves too

Over By Yer! · 04-11-2009, 07:05

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Originally Posted by LynxSoldier

Leona Lewis will have that title some day, you'll see. Alexandra too with the right marketing and songs.

Let's hope so ... and Susan Boyle (already a legend as far as I am concerned)

Stewing · 04-11-2009, 10:13

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Originally Posted by Rob22

America gave us the most important man in pop, helping charity's, the most bought album ever released, countless number 1's (I dont need to say anymore, because you know who I'm referring too).

and what can we offer America? the likes of Kerry Katona, Katie and Peter, Russell Brand?

the only real icon in the UK is Elton John.

this country's talent is a joke.

The person you refer to was OK in pop music as far as that goes, but really as a person he was disturbed.Hardly an icon to look up to- Get real. The man was a dysfunctional mess.

UK has much better people to admire. So does USA come o that.And Katona is not a "legend" in any field at all.Nor are any of the fodder you mention.You logic and argument falls flat right there and then.

gilliedew · 04-11-2009, 10:37

I read Shirley Bassey is celebrating 50 years at the top in showbiz

Is that Legend enough?

Sara Webb · 04-11-2009, 11:06

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Originally Posted by zx50

Is that all you can think of?

Madonna

Kylie

Diana Ross

Okay, I can only think of 3.

But these ladies are American and Australian... not "homegrown" talent, so the UK isn't offering them to anyone.

johartuk · 04-11-2009, 12:44

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Originally Posted by Rob22

I'm not being negative. I'm being honest and calling things the way I see it.

yes there are a few people in your list, that could be called legends I suppose.

it just annoys me, the way celebrities with no talent, are referred to as "legends" when they have accomplished diddily squatt.

I don't recall Katie Price or Kerry Katona or any of the 'talentless' lot ever being referred to as a legend or a great!

johartuk · 04-11-2009, 12:47

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Originally Posted by johnen56

The day the Harry Potter kid, Graham Norton and Denise Van Outen (are you serious with that one.....!?) become legends it's probably time to emigrate.

Please read my whole post! I clearly stated that some of the people in the list could e described as legends. I certainly wasn't inferring that everyone on the list was a legend or ever would be! However, I was pointing out that everyone on my list had talent and was a well-known, home-grown celeb!

johartuk · 04-11-2009, 12:51

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Originally Posted by zx50

We are talking about legends you know. How on earth can Take That be considered a legend? The same goes for Billie Piper - Leona Lewis - Katherine Jenkins - Susan Boyle [are you serious] - Denis Van Outen - Daniel Radcliffe. There's basically quite a few names in there that don't come under the title of legend.

As I said to another poster, please read my post properly! Namely, this bit:-

Obviously, not everyone in my list could be described as a 'legend', but a number of them could (and are)

Knowle · 04-11-2009, 13:45

david beckham?

zx50 · 04-11-2009, 14:03

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Originally Posted by johartuk

As I said to another poster, please read my post properly! Namely, this bit:-

Obviously, not everyone in my list could be described as a 'legend', but a number of them could (and are)

But this thread's about people who currently are legends though. Quite a few people in that list might very well not make the title of legend.

welwynrose · 04-11-2009, 14:05

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Originally Posted by Rob22

America gave us the most important man in pop, helping charity's, the most bought album ever released, countless number 1's (I dont need to say anymore, because you know who I'm referring too).

and what can we offer America? the likes of Kerry Katona, Katie and Peter, Russell Brand?

the only real icon in the UK is Elton John.

this country's talent is a joke.

have no idea who you are about

The Major · 04-11-2009, 16:40

Music

The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Dusty Springfield
Queen
Black Sabbath
Status Quo
Elton John
Shirley Bassey
Tom Jones
Cliff Richard
The Shadows
T-Rex
Vera Lynn

Film/TV

Christopher Lee
Peter Cushing
Charlie Chaplin
Stan Laurel
Elizabeth Taylor
Joan Collins
Richard Burton
Laurence Olivier
Alec Guiness
Anthony Hopkins
Sean Connery
Julie Andrews
Helen Mirren
Vanessa Redgrave
Ben Kingsley
Judi Dench
Noel Coward
Michael Caine
Peter Sellers
Richard Attenborough
Vivien Leigh
John Gielgud
John Mills

BluseyLou · 04-11-2009, 17:28

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Originally Posted by The Major

Music

The Beatles
The Rolling Stones
Dusty Springfield
Queen
Black Sabbath
Status Quo
Elton John
Shirley Bassey
Tom Jones
Cliff Richard
The Shadows
T-Rex
Vera Lynn

Film/TV

Christopher Lee
Peter Cushing
Charlie Chaplin
Stan Laurel
Elizabeth Taylor
Joan Collins
Richard Burton
Laurence Olivier
Alec Guiness
Anthony Hopkins
Sean Connery
Julie Andrews
Helen Mirren
Vanessa Redgrave
Ben Kingsley
Judi Dench
Noel Coward
Michael Caine
Peter Sellers
Richard Attenborough
Vivien Leigh
John Gielgud
John Mills

What a great list

alll the people on this list are worthy of legend status.

welwynrose · 04-11-2009, 17:58

You missed David Bowie

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