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Old 01-09-2008, 20:24   #51
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The art of good communication is being understood,
Something the blinkered pedantry of Fowler miserably fails to recognise.
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Old 01-09-2008, 20:27   #52
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Something the blinkered pedantry of Fowler miserably fails to recognise.
Tell that to lawyers and contract negotiators.

'Kevin said Tony damaged his neighbour's car'

'Kevin, said Tony, damaged his neighbour's car'

Spot the difference?
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Old 01-09-2008, 20:27   #53
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I disagree. With that, even if it is strictly correct, you will always havepeople wondering whether you are allowed through with 10 items or not.

With '10 Items or Less', it may be incorrect, but it is actually a lot clearer to everyone, no matter how well-versed they are in the finer points of grammar.

The art of good communication is being understood, and I think Tesco should leave the signs well alone.
I don't think anyone with 10 items would avoid an "up to 10 items" checkout just because the sign is worded correctly and succinctly.
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Old 01-09-2008, 20:29   #54
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Eats Shoots and Leaves is all about the nuances of grammar and punctuation and how our lives hang on them. It's a great read.
It's called Eats, Shoots and Leaves. You missed the comma.
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Old 01-09-2008, 20:30   #55
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It's called Eats, Shoots and Leaves. You missed the comma.
Don't you mean he missed out the comma - you were the one who missed it - nobody else noticed

Sorry / coat
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Old 01-09-2008, 20:33   #56
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Tell that to lawyers and contract negotiators.

'Kevin said Tony damaged his neighbour's car'

'Kevin, said Tony, damaged his neighbour's car'

Spot the difference?
Yes. The second would be unacceptable in a legal document. They don't like commas.
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Old 01-09-2008, 20:36   #57
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Don't you mean she missed out the comma - you were the one who missed it - nobody else noticed

Sorry / coat
Yeah I guess I did.

I got carried away.

Edit: You also changed the word she in your post to the word he.
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Old 01-09-2008, 20:38   #58
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Yeah I guess I did.

I got carried away.
No, the comma got carried away.
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Old 01-09-2008, 20:48   #59
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Yes. The second would be unacceptable in a legal document. They don't like commas.
In Nigeria maybe.

Who are 'they'?
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Old 01-09-2008, 20:51   #60
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I never count the items, I use the checkout if i use a basket regardless of how many items are in it, and no-ones ever said anything to me.

Lives to short to worry if you have one item over the ten.
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Who are 'they'?
Your lawyer friends.
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Old 01-09-2008, 21:05   #62
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I never count the items, I use the checkout if i use a basket regardless of how many items are in it, and no-ones ever said anything to me.

Lives to short to worry if you have one item over the ten.
If there are well over 10 items (in the 10 items or less queue) from customers at my Tesco, they refuse to serve you.
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If there are well over 10 items (in the 10 items or less queue) from customers at my Tesco, they refuse to serve you.
Good, I wish they all did. It's not the customers concern with less/fewer than 10 items but the staff should enforce this.

I really don't give a monkies about the grammar. I understand that if I have 10 items in my basket/trolley i'm OK. If I have 15 items then I should go to another checkout.

Less than or fewer makes no difference to the ignorant who can't count or chose not to.
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