[mbessex]

The radio industry should be looking at this with horror.
TWO godbothering stations hardly a proposition for mass movement to DAB.
Unless of course the second coming ties in with digital switch over.

What's the advertising now..DAB digital radio and god too ...literally TWO!!! Madness.

[tghe-retford]

Originally Posted by RED KITE

I wouldn't care if it wasn't for the fact that there are only 8 national DAB slots. DAB+ can't come quick enough - we could have up to 32 stations on one multiplex at the same sound quality.

We don't want the same sound quality - we want better sound quality!

Originally Posted by jaffboy151

Will Never Happen....... Were stuck with what we have now for then next 10 years or until the majority of DAB radios can play DAB+ also

The industry seems to be saying that DAB+ may never happen, or if it does, its going to be a long, long time. By then, DVB-T2 could be a serious contender for broadcasting radio as well as television.

[Martin Phillp]

I'm all for the move to D1 if it means they're coming off MXR and Switch London.

[soulboy77]

Isn't there something ironic about the fact that National DAB cannot attract decent commercial radio stations to fill the slots as it is not seen as being viable yet UCB an organisation with charitable status can afford to?

[RED KITE]

Originally Posted by soulboy77

Isn't there something ironic about the fact that National DAB cannot attract decent commercial radio stations to fill the slots as it is not seen as being viable yet UCB an organisation with charitable status can afford to?

Well you know what someone needs to do then.................

Set up a charity to bring back decent music on the radio.

[RED KITE]

Originally Posted by Martin Phillp

I'm all for the move to D1 if it means they're coming off MXR and Switch London.

I suspect UCB Gospel or UCB Bible will appear on the DAB slots vacated by UCB UK with UCB Inspirational coming on air in London.

UCB has 3 national networks on air in New Zealand.

[hanssolo]

Originally Posted by RED KITE

Well you know what someone needs to do then.................

Set up a charity to bring back decent music on the radio.

2 groups are trying to do this with a hits station on national DAB, they will need to raise at least £1 million for the first years stereo transmission, :
1. a group of ex UCB guys with Access radio, the test webstream is up and running from new studios in a Stoke theatre and they hope to do an RSL soon
http://www.accessradio.biz/radioPlayer.php
and donation website setup!
http://www.accessmedia.biz/Content.html

We’ll use popular songs that have been carefully vetted for content and promote songs that address social issues, like Just Jack’s Starz in their Eyes (Reality TV) and P!nks’s Stupid Girls (Role Models)

2. Onegold due to start March the website has a test stream www.onegold.co.uk and does not have a donate button yet, but you can probably moneygram funds to Mike Read in Jamaica, , seems someone has paid for him to go out there as he is helping with a Charity Auction on December 6th.
http://www.totalstar.co.uk/News/Mike...maica-194.aspx

[AuralJunkie]

I hope that this is not the thin end of the wedge, and we get US style so called "Christian" stations. What many of these are in fact are extreme right wing propaganda stations. The UK equivalent would be virtual Radio BNP.

What makes this particularly worrying at present is that the forthcoming Conservative Government are considering removing the obligation for UK broadcasting to be impartial and even handed. It may suit the Conservatives in the short term to have Murdoch biased news on Sky, but you only have to see the mess in the USA when the media can stir up hysteria about a half hearted move towards universal health care. The so called "Christian" media is a key player in this whipping up. Can you imagine the reaction in the media if there was a Muslim equivalent!

We need to be careful what we allow.

[Arthur Grainger]

Originally Posted by RED KITE

Well you know what someone needs to do then.................

Set up a charity to bring back decent music on the radio.

Or go for the cheaper and more realistic option - buy an I-pod and listen to jingle-free, ad-free and banter-free music.

A couple of stations I would really like to see occupying the D1 multiplex are Spectrum and WRN, broadcasting in mono.

Solar, Jazz FM, a country music station, Insight Radio, a celtic and folk music station (Celtic Music Radio), Sunrise Radio and so on - are the kind of stations that ought to be on a national MUX, minority stations but going out across the UK. That would be a major selling point for DAB.

Music services that are closer to the middle ground and more populist are already occupying some slots on D1, plus the local and regional MUX's - so why do we need to give more space on D1 to that kind of stuff.

Good on UCB and Premier for securing slots, with their own funding from listners, who clearly want it.

[hanssolo]

Originally Posted by AuralJunkie

I hope that this is not the thin end of the wedge, and we get US style so called "Christian" stations. What many of these are in fact are extreme right wing propaganda stations. The UK equivalent would be virtual Radio BNP.

Most Christians in the UK , including those at Premier and UCB, will agree with Lord Carey.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8324455.stm

Former Archbishop of Canterbury Lord Carey has urged Christians to "stand shoulder to shoulder" in rejecting the British National Party.

He told the News of the World the party's leader was a "squalid racist".

Premier also features American Tony Campolo on Sunday night who is close to the Clintons and very prominently critical of the far right in the US.
http://www.progressive.org/?q=mag_camp0805


There is also a code of ethics the Christian stations in the UK sign to.
http://www.christianbroadcastingcoun...2/Default.aspx

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This is seriously bad news IMHO, I object to allowing propaganda stations having access to the public airwaves.

[RED KITE]

Originally Posted by AuralJunkie

I hope that this is not the thin end of the wedge, and we get US style so called "Christian" stations. What many of these are in fact are extreme right wing propaganda stations. The UK equivalent would be virtual Radio BNP.

What makes this particularly worrying at present is that the forthcoming Conservative Government are considering removing the obligation for UK broadcasting to be impartial and even handed. It may suit the Conservatives in the short term to have Murdoch biased news on Sky, but you only have to see the mess in the USA when the media can stir up hysteria about a half hearted move towards universal health care. The so called "Christian" media is a key player in this whipping up. Can you imagine the reaction in the media if there was a Muslim equivalent!

We need to be careful what we allow.

No UCB, Premier and TWR are tame compared with what you can hear from the US. What got Premier into trouble were slots from US preachers on their station. They have to very careful what they say on air about non believers here in the UK, though it's fair to say that most evangelical Christians have similar views to their US counterparts on other religions, homosexuality, abortion etc, they are just not as extreme in how they present them as that tends not to be acceptable in our society and culture.

[tghe-retford]

Radio Today state in an article tonight that UCB UK will begin broadcasting tomorrow (November 2nd) on Digital One and UCB Inspirational will take over UCB UK's vacant space:

http://radiotoday.co.uk/news.php?extend.5326

UCB still says December 1st. We'll see within the next 24 hours.

[tghe-retford]

Originally Posted by tghe-retford

We'll see within the next 24 hours.

Nothing at midnight, I wonder if someone at Radio Today may have messed up or they know something we don't. As I said, we'll see within the next 24 hours.

[SportKa]

Originally Posted by tghe-retford

Nothing at midnight, I wonder if someone at Radio Today may have messed up or they know something we don't. As I said, we'll see within the next 24 hours.

I think it means they will be announcing it on November 2nd rather than launching on November 2nd.

[tghe-retford]

Originally Posted by SportKa

I think it means they will be announcing it on November 2nd rather than launching on November 2nd.

Yeah, the article has since changed from its publication a few hours ago from launch to announced. At least we know now it'll be on December 1st.

[AuralJunkie]

Originally Posted by RED KITE

No UCB, Premier and TWR are tame compared with what you can hear from the US. What got Premier into trouble were slots from US preachers on their station. They have to very careful what they say on air about non believers here in the UK, though it's fair to say that most evangelical Christians have similar views to their US counterparts on other religions, homosexuality, abortion etc, they are just not as extreme in how they present them as that tends not to be acceptable in our society and culture.

But if the next government relax rules requiring even handedness and balance, and bias becomes acceptable, then we could end up with extreme religious bigotry and ultra right propaganda being allowed. What we need to remember is that if ultra extreme Christianity is allowed, then we cannot object to the more extreme forms of Islam being preached over our airwaves. Perhaps we should be strengthening OFCOM rather than scrapping it.

Perhaps what we really need is a radio station that allows the moderate side of ALL religions to be promoted. Most are related, so there is scope to build bridges rather that divide into tribes.

[belleville1]

Originally Posted by hanssolo

2 groups are trying to do this with a hits station on national DAB, they will need to raise at least £1 million for the first years stereo transmission, :
1. a group of ex UCB guys with Access radio, the test webstream is up and running from new studios in a Stoke theatre and they hope to do an RSL soon
http://www.accessradio.biz/radioPlayer.php
and donation website setup!
http://www.accessmedia.biz/Content.html
]

Not this lot again - they've been trying to set up DAB stations from that location for a few years now. There was Ice Radio, then something called (I seem to remember) Take Over the Radio and now this. I think a few of the people involved with this applied for a bizarre FM community licence to play Christian music to the tiny nearby town of Congleton too. Thankfully, sanity reigned and it was given the Ofcom knockback.

While these people have been messing around in that theatre, an actual DAB station from Stoke has come and gone and various other groups have got community stations up and running on FM in Staffordshire and Cheshire.

[RED KITE]

Originally Posted by AuralJunkie

But if the next government relax rules requiring even handedness and balance, and bias becomes acceptable, then we could end up with extreme religious bigotry and ultra right propaganda being allowed. What we need to remember is that if ultra extreme Christianity is allowed, then we cannot object to the more extreme forms of Islam being preached over our airwaves. Perhaps we should be strengthening OFCOM rather than scrapping it.

Perhaps what we really need is a radio station that allows the moderate side of ALL religions to be promoted. Most are related, so there is scope to build bridges rather that divide into tribes.

That is addressed by the laws concerning incitement religious hatred.

You can be certain that representives of non Christian religions e.g. The Pagan Federation will no doubt fiercely oppose and take action against any extreme religious propaganda broadcast on air.

As far as I'm concerned extreme Islamic, Christian and Jewish propaganda is all the same and should be treated as such. You don't really tend to get it from other religions.