Ratings Thread (Part 5) - Page 42 - TV Programmes

GeorgeS · 07-11-2009, 18:23

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Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

Incidentally, any news on the ongoing search for a Chairman and Chief Exec for ITV? Surely someone out there must want the jobs, they can't be that much of a poisoned chalice?

Have they asked you yet, GeorgeS?

I said I'd only do it if I could bring you in as my spin doctor

iaindb · 07-11-2009, 18:24

See this...

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/ne...at-return.html

I wonder if that will provide any sort of boost for the concert when it goes head-to-head on Children-In-Need Eve against 3 of ITV1's highest rated programmes.

I guess the fact that the concert is on TV a week after taking part rather than live counts against it.

GeorgeS · 07-11-2009, 18:25

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Originally Posted by D.M.N.

If you recall, the only reason ITV moved the News to Ten on Friday's earlier this year was because Pushing Daisies was flopping badly in that slot.

Thats only really correct. They could have easily found another show to put at 10pm instead of Dasies. The reason was cost driven. ITV wants to end primetime at 10pm despite the news being not really popular on Fridays (BBC 10pm News often struggles to get close to 4m on Fridays)

Andy23 · 07-11-2009, 18:27

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Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

I think ITV has missed having someone of the calibre of Liddiment as network controller. Whilst aggressive in deploying his ammo against BBC1 (and ensuring ITV remained almost invincible in ratings terms), he did seem to have viewers interests at heart, had a bit of respect for the Beeb, and a real public service broadcasting ethos.

Wasn't David Liddiment in charge when they axed News at Ten and started to over-schedule Millionaire?

Agent F · 07-11-2009, 18:35

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Originally Posted by Andy23

Wasn't David Liddiment in charge when they axed News at Ten and started to over-schedule Millionaire?

He was also the guy who dropped Blind Date from the Saturday night schedule and replaced it with premiership highlights.

iaindb · 07-11-2009, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Andy23

Wasn't David Liddiment in charge when they axed News at Ten and started to over-schedule Millionaire?

So that proves Robbie's point.

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Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

I think ITV has missed having someone of the calibre of Liddiment as network controller. Whilst aggressive in deploying his ammo against BBC1 (and ensuring ITV remained almost invincible in ratings terms), he did seem to have viewers interests at heart, had a bit of respect for the Beeb, and a real public service broadcasting ethos.

...because he took one of ITV's biggest programmes of the last 15 years, something which would thrash all BBC opposition, and turned it into a nothing that gets less viewers than University Challenge and Hole In The Wall.

RobbieSykes123 · 07-11-2009, 19:32

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Originally Posted by iaindb

See this...

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/ne...at-return.html

I wonder if that will provide any sort of boost for the concert when it goes head-to-head on Children-In-Need Eve against 3 of ITV1's highest rated programmes.

I guess the fact that the concert is on TV a week after taking part rather than live counts against it.

Does the Royal Variety suffer from being shown days or weeks after taking place?

I think a family pop concert is a perfect complementary schedule to ITV's mundane offering of soap, soap and z-lebs in bikinis eating worms and kangaroo testicles.

Chris1964 · 07-11-2009, 20:31

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Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

Does the Royal Variety suffer from being shown days or weeks after taking place?

I think a family pop concert is a perfect complementary schedule to ITV's mundane offering of soap, soap and z-lebs in bikinis eating worms and kangaroo testicles.

This thread would be all the poorer without comments like this!

By the way-Strictlys Blackpool jaunt was fabulous, they really should go on the road more.

Chris1964 · 07-11-2009, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Andy23

Wasn't David Liddiment in charge when they axed News at Ten and started to over-schedule Millionaire?

And ever since that day BBC news has been ahead.

D.M.N. · 07-11-2009, 21:37

I think The X Factor will get a major boost tonight with Strictly overlapping for only 15 minutes. Plus, it has 8 out of the top 10 Twitter 'trends', a new record for the show.

Agent F · 07-11-2009, 21:43

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Originally Posted by D.M.N.

I think The X Factor will get a major boost tonight with Strictly overlapping for only 15 minutes. Plus, it has 8 out of the top 10 Twitter 'trends', a new record for the show.

Yes I just noticed that on Twitter. It should do better than last week anyway.

Brekkie · 07-11-2009, 22:17

A shame ITV didn't have Ghostbusters scheduled straight after too!

iaindb · 07-11-2009, 22:36

I notice that next Saturday Strictly starts at 6.50pm which is about when the England match will finish. So the first 40 minutes of Strictly is up against the post-match analysis, that bit that always drags down the average ratings for a live sports programme - 6 nations rugby, formula 1, champions league.

And - oh dear - Piers Morgan is on against Michael McIntyre's Comedy Roadshow. Remeber what happened the last time these two clashed? Piers got thumped (in the ratings - not literally). How more appealing as a guest is Vinnie Jones than Boris Becker?

Chris1964 · 07-11-2009, 23:05

Spent the last hour or so flicking between the Remembrance Festival and Piers Morgan. I wouldnt normally watch Piers but Ronnie Corbett is one of the all time great tv characters.
The Festival was thought provoking and poignant as ever.

Dancc · 07-11-2009, 23:06

I have to disagree with the above posters. (1035-1036) I think on the whole, it was the worst Saturday show of the entire series so far. The whole thing felt pretty flat throughout and there wasn't a single standout performance with the possible exception of Lucie.

Obviously it will be up on the somewhat disappointing Halloween performance last week but that's not saying much, is it? I don't think we're going to see a new high reached somehow.

Twitter's ever-changing list of trending topics is not that useful a tool because it doesn't guarantee that more people are watching/talking about it in greater numbers. It could just be that less people are tweeting generally or there are fewer other things worth tweeting about compared to last week. There is no evidence whatsoever that extra Twitter exposure marries in any way with audience growth, it's user base really is a drop in the ocean compared to the UK's television audience and I think it is important to keep that in perspective.

The other notable thing about tonight's show was Dermot's incompetence. He really got my back up tonight, disrespecting Louis for about the third week in a row. It totally grates the way he pulls him up for every single criticism he makes, puts up a fairly vacuous defense, then talks all over him before the man is able to fully articulate his response. Starting to believe his own hype I think but the reality he is he's very mediocre and highly disposable just like Kate before him. My feeling is the biggest show in the country at the moment could do a lot better. Maybe 2010 is time for a change?

He's a safe choice, but far from the best. If he isn't capable of being impartial and playing devil's advocate without undermining and ultimately riling the judges, perhaps it's time to get someone more skilled in to do the job...

Chris1964 · 07-11-2009, 23:08

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Originally Posted by D.M.N.

I think The X Factor will get a major boost tonight with Strictly overlapping for only 15 minutes. Plus, it has 8 out of the top 10 Twitter 'trends', a new record for the show.

I dont really understand what Twitter means, but doesnt anyone think X Factor will be hit by Bonfire parties?

Fudd · 07-11-2009, 23:11

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Originally Posted by Dancc

I have to disagree with the above posters. (1035-1036) I think on the whole, it was the worst Saturday show of the entire series so far. The whole thing felt pretty flat throughout and there wasn't a single standout performance with the possible exception of Lucie.

Obviously it will be up on the somewhat disappointing Halloween performance last week but that's not saying much, is it? I don't think we're going to see a new high reached somehow.

Twitter's ever-changing list of trending topics is not that useful a tool because it doesn't guarantee that more people are watching/talking about it in greater numbers. It could just be that less people are tweeting generally or there are fewer other things worth tweeting about compared to last week. There is no evidence whatsoever that extra Twitter exposure marries in any way with audience growth, it's user base really is a drop in the ocean compared to the UK's television audience and I think it is important to keep that in perspective.

The other notable thing about tonight's show was Dermot's incompetence. He really got my back up tonight, disrespecting Louis for about the third week in a row. It totally grates the way he pulls him up for every single criticism he makes, puts up a fairly vacuous defense, then talks all over him before the man is able to fully articulate his response. Starting to believe his own hype I think but the reality he is he's very mediocre and highly disposable just like Kate before him. My feeling is the biggest show in the country at the moment could do a lot better. Maybe 2010 is time for a change?

He's a safe choice, but far from the best. If he isn't capable of being impartial and playing devil's advocate without undermining and ultimately riling the judges, perhaps it's time to get someome more skilled in to do the job...

I'm the other way round lol.

I thought Dermot was right to pull Louis up this week. I don't think he's got favourites either - he sticks up for all the acts if they get criticism from the judges. I don't know who they could get better, bar Ant and Dec and unless you want them presenting it from a jungle in Australia for a couple of weeks...

Good for Benidorm last night - and obviously it's stable because the dip at 20.55 after Coronation Street was around the average for the whole show.

The soaps did alright but worrying that none of them could hit above 9m on a horrible (at least where I was!) November night. Maybe a few firework displays hit ratings. Certainly Have I Got News For You and Armstrong and Miller were hit again.

Dancc · 07-11-2009, 23:15

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Originally Posted by Chris1964

I dont really understand what Twitter means, but doesnt anyone think X Factor will be hit by Bonfire parties?

Yeah I think so. The fireworks have been fairly continuous for the third night in a row here and better weather has prevailed after two rainy nights previously. There were a number of local events and organised displays happening as well, as I'm sure was the case all over the country and many many parties going on to boot, all of which is bound to take it's toll. Up on last week should be a given, but I'm not expecting anything particularly stellar.

iaindb · 07-11-2009, 23:34

Bump cos I can't see Dancc's post except when I click on add reply....

iaindb · 07-11-2009, 23:37

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Originally Posted by Dancc

Yeah I think so. The fireworks have been fairly continuous for the third night in a row here and better weather has prevailed after two rainy nights previously. There were a number of local events and organised displays happening as well, as I'm sure was the case all over the country and many many parties going on to boot, all of which is bound to take it's toll. Up on last week should be a given, but I'm not expecting anything particularly stellar.

I would have thought Bonfire Night would have taken more viewers away than Trick Or Treat. Surely TOT's not that popular?

Although I suppose Bonfire Night would have been spread over three nights.

Dancc · 07-11-2009, 23:58

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Originally Posted by iaindb

Bump cos I can't see Dancc's post except when I click on add reply....

It's been doing that a lot lately. It's happening to others as well, right?

It would be less annoying if refreshing the page fixed it, but it doesn't. Come on DS techies, sort it out!

Fudd · 08-11-2009, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Dancc

It's been doing that a lot lately. It's happening to others as well, right?

It would be less annoying if refreshing the page fixed it, but it doesn't. Come on DS techies, sort it out!

Yes, it's happening to me too. Not all the time, but quite often.

newkid30 · 08-11-2009, 00:42

I watched TXF for the first time this season, maybe I picked the wrong week to watch but it was truly awful, maybe it's always like that, either way, I thought it was REALLY dire, and was saddened that THAT is the programme people love and watch above everything else all week.

C14E · 08-11-2009, 01:11

I think it might come out around a similar level this week. Strictly might gain a bit from the Blackpool show, I suppose.

The X Factor is really falling back on the entertainment value this year. The judges, the stories and the production. There's nobody who I can see putting in a great performance and I can't find a favourite. The average standard is pretty high, not many total duds there. But none who really raise the bar. However, they do have Danyl and Jedward who are proving to be very divisive which is good for the show. Ratings wise, the final probably can't come soon enough because this lot probably aren't going to build momentum towards the final. Though the final could suffer if the acts are all a bit bland and mediocre.

sn_22 · 08-11-2009, 01:28

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Originally Posted by Chris1964

By the way-Strictlys Blackpool jaunt was fabulous, they really should go on the road more.

You're spot on and its the first big thing thats gone right for them this series.

I'm no avid Strictly fan, and I've only watched the first 10 minutes on iPlayer so far, but the size of the crowd and the grandeur of the surroundings definately gives the whole show a lift. Strictly's been falling a long way behind XF on the production values front (it used to be the other way around) - tonights was a massive improvement.

The limited clash should definately help XF - though I guess bonfire night is an unknown quantity. Strictly ought to benefit too but I worry for Merlin shoved so early. I hope it still manages to sustain whats been a very solid second series.

07-11-2009, 18:24	#1027
iaindb Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,271	See this... http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/ne...at-return.html I wonder if that will provide any sort of boost for the concert when it goes head-to-head on Children-In-Need Eve against 3 of ITV1's highest rated programmes. I guess the fact that the concert is on TV a week after taking part rather than live counts against it.

07-11-2009, 21:37	#1035
D.M.N. Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: My PC Services: Sky Posts: 8,501	I think The X Factor will get a major boost tonight with Strictly overlapping for only 15 minutes. Plus, it has 8 out of the top 10 Twitter 'trends', a new record for the show.

07-11-2009, 22:17	#1037
Brekkie Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: North Wales Services: LFLF (bunker) Posts: 4,120 Blog Entries: 10	A shame ITV didn't have Ghostbusters scheduled straight after too!

07-11-2009, 22:36	#1038
iaindb Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,271	I notice that next Saturday Strictly starts at 6.50pm which is about when the England match will finish. So the first 40 minutes of Strictly is up against the post-match analysis, that bit that always drags down the average ratings for a live sports programme - 6 nations rugby, formula 1, champions league. And - oh dear - Piers Morgan is on against Michael McIntyre's Comedy Roadshow. Remeber what happened the last time these two clashed? Piers got thumped (in the ratings - not literally). How more appealing as a guest is Vinnie Jones than Boris Becker?

07-11-2009, 23:05	#1039
Chris1964 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,398	Spent the last hour or so flicking between the Remembrance Festival and Piers Morgan. I wouldnt normally watch Piers but Ronnie Corbett is one of the all time great tv characters. The Festival was thought provoking and poignant as ever.

07-11-2009, 23:06	#1040
Dancc Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northamptonshire Services: Freeview, Virgin Broadband, Xbox Live Posts: 18,830	I have to disagree with the above posters. (1035-1036) I think on the whole, it was the worst Saturday show of the entire series so far. The whole thing felt pretty flat throughout and there wasn't a single standout performance with the possible exception of Lucie. Obviously it will be up on the somewhat disappointing Halloween performance last week but that's not saying much, is it? I don't think we're going to see a new high reached somehow. Twitter's ever-changing list of trending topics is not that useful a tool because it doesn't guarantee that more people are watching/talking about it in greater numbers. It could just be that less people are tweeting generally or there are fewer other things worth tweeting about compared to last week. There is no evidence whatsoever that extra Twitter exposure marries in any way with audience growth, it's user base really is a drop in the ocean compared to the UK's television audience and I think it is important to keep that in perspective. The other notable thing about tonight's show was Dermot's incompetence. He really got my back up tonight, disrespecting Louis for about the third week in a row. It totally grates the way he pulls him up for every single criticism he makes, puts up a fairly vacuous defense, then talks all over him before the man is able to fully articulate his response. Starting to believe his own hype I think but the reality he is he's very mediocre and highly disposable just like Kate before him. My feeling is the biggest show in the country at the moment could do a lot better. Maybe 2010 is time for a change? He's a safe choice, but far from the best. If he isn't capable of being impartial and playing devil's advocate without undermining and ultimately riling the judges, perhaps it's time to get someone more skilled in to do the job...

07-11-2009, 23:34	#1044
iaindb Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,271	Bump cos I can't see Dancc's post except when I click on add reply....

08-11-2009, 00:42	#1048
newkid30 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,433	I watched TXF for the first time this season, maybe I picked the wrong week to watch but it was truly awful, maybe it's always like that, either way, I thought it was REALLY dire, and was saddened that THAT is the programme people love and watch above everything else all week.

08-11-2009, 01:11	#1049
C14E Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 20,105	I think it might come out around a similar level this week. Strictly might gain a bit from the Blackpool show, I suppose. The X Factor is really falling back on the entertainment value this year. The judges, the stories and the production. There's nobody who I can see putting in a great performance and I can't find a favourite. The average standard is pretty high, not many total duds there. But none who really raise the bar. However, they do have Danyl and Jedward who are proving to be very divisive which is good for the show. Ratings wise, the final probably can't come soon enough because this lot probably aren't going to build momentum towards the final. Though the final could suffer if the acts are all a bit bland and mediocre.