Tweed Has Now Realised That................ - Showbiz

Tabbythecat · 08-04-2009, 08:42

Next Thursday he could be behind bars, according to a "unamed friend" they added: "He is fearing the worst and thinks jail is inevitable.

"But he is clinging to the hope the judge will think he has already gone through enough and will give him a suspended sentence."

Do you really think the judge would be compelled to do this??

Discuss!

RedBaroness · 08-04-2009, 08:52

I imagine he will get community service.

davinawho · 08-04-2009, 08:57

I wouldn't count on him getting community service for this, he is charged with assault on somebody just doing their job, he has form, and i'm not sure of the timing but perhaps he did this latest assault whilst awaiting trial for the golf club attack.

i think the judge will be under a lot of pressure NOT to be seen as soft on him.

of course, his jail sentence will be spun into a "grieving" media opportunity.

Tabbythecat · 08-04-2009, 08:59

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Originally Posted by davinawho

I wouldn't count on him getting community service for this, he is charged with assault on somebody just doing their job, he has form, and i'm not sure of the timing but perhaps he did this latest assault whilst awaiting trial for the golf club attack.

i think the judge will be under a lot of pressure NOT to be seen as soft on him.

of course, his jail sentence will be spun into a "grieving" media opportunity.

Knowing his "Sultan Of Spin" Clifford wont be trying to get him on any Pro-Celebrity GOLF tournamounts................

IvanIV · 08-04-2009, 09:04

Well he can always try, but I hope he won't get out of this one. Don't go assaulting people if you do not want end up in prison, simple as that.

Sloopy · 08-04-2009, 09:06

'Already gone through enough'?? His personal circumstances and the fact he violently assaulted somebody should be kept entirely separate.

There is no room for sentimentality when he has proven he is a thug who keeps re-offending time and time again.

Biba Blue · 08-04-2009, 09:12

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Originally Posted by Sloopy

'Already gone through enough'?? His personal circumstances and the fact he violently assaulted somebody should be kept entirely separate.

There is no room for sentimentality when he has proven he is a thug who keeps re-offending time and time again.

I agree with you! What about his victims they went through enough when he viciously assaulted them!

wonkeydonkey · 08-04-2009, 09:14

Courts do not usually look at what people have 'gone through' before they determine a sentence - I would guess that a lot of criminals have suffered bereavements along the way. If Jack gets special treatment because of all the media fuss it will be a total miscarriage of justice.

Charax · 08-04-2009, 09:16

It's impossible to tell what the judge will decide - some decisions you see coming out of the courts appear very low for the crimes they're for, while others seem to be sensible despite external pressure to be lenient.

Considering the seriousness of the offence, the fact it was unprovoked, his plea of not guilty and the fact that he's already had the sentencing pushed back to accommodate his personal life, I would expect a couple of months in jail.

Sloopy · 08-04-2009, 09:19

He has already been granted a number of concessions, i.e. the court dates being delayed several times, curfew rules being relaxed, etc. so pleading for further leniency is much more than he deserves.

The courts do have an often strange way of deciding these things nowadays though.

s0436 · 08-04-2009, 09:21

Don't worry, he'll have his memory box with him in prison

Freia · 08-04-2009, 09:24

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Originally Posted by Tabbythecat

Next Thursday he could be behind bars, according to a "unamed friend" they added: "He is fearing the worst and thinks jail is inevitable.

"But he is clinging to the hope the judge will think he has already gone through enough and will give him a suspended sentence."

Do you really think the judge would be compelled to do this??

Discuss!

I would hope not. Many other criminals go through personal trauma but it does not alter the fact that they have committed a crime. They should all be treated the same and not given suspended sentences, or let out of prison early, just because they are in the public eye and have "gone through enough"

Tabbythecat · 08-04-2009, 09:31

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Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey

If Jack gets special treatment because of all the media fuss it will be a total miscarriage of justice.

And Clifford's portraying him as " a changed man"

RedBaroness · 08-04-2009, 09:34

Who knows what sordid details Max has about the Judge. Not that he would ever use such info.

But as someone once said - Its not what you know and its not who you know, its what you know about who you know that counts!

Tabbythecat · 08-04-2009, 09:40

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Originally Posted by RedBaroness

Who knows what sordid details Max has about the Judge. Not that he would ever use such info.

But as someone once said - Its not what you know and its not who you know, its what you know about who you know that counts!

Interesting point as Mad Max seems to have control over most people

davinawho · 08-04-2009, 09:43

Tweed Has Now Realised That................ if he takes a box of jade memorabilia into nick, he can trade them for safety and err...things.

So they'll be on ebay any day soon then.

GetMeOuttaHere · 08-04-2009, 09:45

I wouldn't be surprised if he now receives a fine and community service. Has there been any stories of him doing good deeds lately? Anything about him doing some voluntary work, saving drowning kittens or such like. He's got an image to uphold, he won't be able to that successfully behind bars.

Tabbythecat · 08-04-2009, 09:48

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Originally Posted by GetMeOuttaHere

He's got an image to uphold, he won't be able to that successfully behind bars.

And he daren''t bend over in the showers either!

IvanIV · 08-04-2009, 09:48

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Originally Posted by davinawho

Tweed Has Now Realised That................ if he takes a box of jade memorabilia into nick, he can trade them for safety and err...things.

So they'll be on ebay any day soon then.

Or, it can be nicked off him there and sold. He better hide it somewhere safe

Tabbythecat · 08-04-2009, 09:53

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Originally Posted by IvanIV

Or, it can be nicked off him there and sold. He better hide it somewhere safe

Wouldnt put it past them

Fringo · 08-04-2009, 09:58

this is such a non-story - an "unnamed friend"......Some of you really give MC a lot more credit for his abilities that he deserves!

He'll be sent down I'm pretty certain.

RedBaroness · 08-04-2009, 09:59

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Originally Posted by Tabbythecat

Wouldnt put it past them

You just cant trust these convict types anymore! You get all sorts in the nick now!

MrsSpoon · 08-04-2009, 10:02

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Originally Posted by Sloopy

'Already gone through enough'?? His personal circumstances and the fact he violently assaulted somebody should be kept entirely separate.

There is no room for sentimentality when he has proven he is a thug who keeps re-offending time and time again.

I absolutely agree. He has already had leniency with the tag. If he looked the slightest but remorseful I wouldn't mind but he doesn't.

Tabbythecat · 08-04-2009, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Fringo

this is such a non-story - an "unnamed friend"......Some of you really give MC a lot more credit for his abilities that he deserves!

He'll be sent down I'm pretty certain.

Well Cliff Maxford isnt in the country he is at his villa

Fringo · 08-04-2009, 10:11

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Originally Posted by Tabbythecat

Well Cliff Maxford isnt in the country he is at his villa

Oh......

I was responding about the fact someone was saying MC could basically nobble the judge if he had info on him - this is why I say people are giving him too much credence.

Not sure the relevance of his being at the villa is....

08-04-2009, 08:42	#1
Tabbythecat Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Gender: Male Location: Living In a Catbox With Mrs T Services: Virgin Media Broadband 4MB Posts: 28,195 Blog Entries: 1	Tweed Has Now Realised That................ Next Thursday he could be behind bars, according to a "unamed friend" they added: "He is fearing the worst and thinks jail is inevitable. "But he is clinging to the hope the judge will think he has already gone through enough and will give him a suspended sentence." Do you really think the judge would be compelled to do this?? Discuss!

08-04-2009, 08:52	#2
RedBaroness Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 629	I imagine he will get community service.

08-04-2009, 08:57	#3
davinawho Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Services: Sopcast, Flickr, Big Chill, Resonance FM, Radio Three, Wikipedia, Posts: 7,325 Blog Entries: 1	I wouldn't count on him getting community service for this, he is charged with assault on somebody just doing their job, he has form, and i'm not sure of the timing but perhaps he did this latest assault whilst awaiting trial for the golf club attack. i think the judge will be under a lot of pressure NOT to be seen as soft on him. of course, his jail sentence will be spun into a "grieving" media opportunity.

08-04-2009, 09:04	#5
IvanIV Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 13,198	Well he can always try, but I hope he won't get out of this one. Don't go assaulting people if you do not want end up in prison, simple as that.

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Sloopy Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59,906	'Already gone through enough'?? His personal circumstances and the fact he violently assaulted somebody should be kept entirely separate. There is no room for sentimentality when he has proven he is a thug who keeps re-offending time and time again.

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wonkeydonkey Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Gender: Female Location: London Posts: 17,859	Courts do not usually look at what people have 'gone through' before they determine a sentence - I would guess that a lot of criminals have suffered bereavements along the way. If Jack gets special treatment because of all the media fuss it will be a total miscarriage of justice.

08-04-2009, 09:16	#9
Charax Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 128	It's impossible to tell what the judge will decide - some decisions you see coming out of the courts appear very low for the crimes they're for, while others seem to be sensible despite external pressure to be lenient. Considering the seriousness of the offence, the fact it was unprovoked, his plea of not guilty and the fact that he's already had the sentencing pushed back to accommodate his personal life, I would expect a couple of months in jail.

08-04-2009, 09:19	#10
Sloopy Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 59,906	He has already been granted a number of concessions, i.e. the court dates being delayed several times, curfew rules being relaxed, etc. so pleading for further leniency is much more than he deserves. The courts do have an often strange way of deciding these things nowadays though.

08-04-2009, 09:21	#11
s0436 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 384	Don't worry, he'll have his memory box with him in prison

08-04-2009, 09:34	#14
RedBaroness Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 629	Who knows what sordid details Max has about the Judge. Not that he would ever use such info. But as someone once said - Its not what you know and its not who you know, its what you know about who you know that counts!

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davinawho Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Services: Sopcast, Flickr, Big Chill, Resonance FM, Radio Three, Wikipedia, Posts: 7,325 Blog Entries: 1	Tweed Has Now Realised That................ if he takes a box of jade memorabilia into nick, he can trade them for safety and err...things. So they'll be on ebay any day soon then.

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GetMeOuttaHere Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Gender: Female Location: CBeebies Services: Teaching you to singalong to Timmy Time Baahh Posts: 8,937	I wouldn't be surprised if he now receives a fine and community service. Has there been any stories of him doing good deeds lately? Anything about him doing some voluntary work, saving drowning kittens or such like. He's got an image to uphold, he won't be able to that successfully behind bars.

08-04-2009, 09:58	#21
Fringo Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: London Posts: 3,808	this is such a non-story - an "unnamed friend"......Some of you really give MC a lot more credit for his abilities that he deserves! He'll be sent down I'm pretty certain.