[michael21]

http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/P...etune-campaign

Every one need to rescan after 30/9/09 hope this information is useful

[mrdtv]

Originally Posted by michael21

http://www.freeview.co.uk/freeview/P...etune-campaign

Every one need to rescan after 30/9/09 hope this information is useful

Ilse is completely clueless: this is just like the Obama/McCain spat over tyre pressures in the US election last autumn and equally embarrrasing. Had Freeview, DUK, DTG, Ofcom and the manufacturers specified autoretuning and multiple transmitter handling from the start this would have been a non-event. Receivers such as the now defunct SETPAL range did actually handle these problems. Freeview retuning: the gift that keeps on giving to Sky and Freesat!

[freetoview33]

So will ITV4 replace Five on Mux A and Vice Versa?

[savvy]

There's already a 3-page thread on this, here.

Rgds.


Les.

[michael21]

[quote=savvy;34171685]There's already a 3-page thread on this, here.

Rgds.

That Thread is a spe Thread the information i gave was only released today and it gives the date to rescan i was only trying to be helpful to DS forums members

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by mrdtv

Had Freeview, DUK, DTG, Ofcom and the manufacturers specified autoretuning and multiple transmitter handling from the start this would have been a non-event.

But they didn't, so as they say "we are where we are", and with that in mind we should be looking forward, not back to what should have been (even if it's annoying/confusing/unnecessary).

Freeview retuning: the gift that keeps on giving to Sky and Freesat!

Not unless there is compelling evidence that people are actually moving away from Freeview or preferring other services for that very reason.

[savvy]

Originally Posted by michael21

That Thread is a spe Thread the information i gave was only released today and it gives the date to rescan i was only trying to be helpful to DS forums members

Michael,

Yes it was a useful link to post; I'd have just posted it in the other thread to keep things together, but hey, no great shakes

Rgds.


Les.

[michael21]

looking foward to 30/9/09 rescan day

[John259]

Originally Posted by mossy2103

...we should be looking forward, not back to what should have been...

"Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it."

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by John259

"Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it."

Yes, but it's one thing to learn from history, something else entirely to keep on harking back to it in the hope that it did not actually happen , aka "crying over spilt milk" (or should that be "crying over split NIT"?).

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by michael21

looking foward to 30/9/09 rescan day

Yes, you can never have too many rescans.

[John259]

Originally Posted by mossy2103

Yes, but it's one thing to learn from history, something else entirely to keep on harking back to it in the hope that it did not actually happen , aka "crying over spilt milk" (or should that be "crying over split NIT"?).

Nobody said that. What we said is that the fundamental design flaws with Freeview transmission and reception need to be acknowledged and sorted out rapidly.

John

[slackereconomy]

freeview users won't be any better off with freesat in that respect. i'm never done checking flysat or kingofsat for non freesat fta channels that move around or get added and rescanning (then deleting tens of shopping channels and religious guff). that said, i am obviously also looking forward to rescan day, sounds exciting.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by John259

Nobody said that.

Well, it seemed to me that that certain statements were trying to turn the clock back, rather than accept what has gone, learn from it and incorporate those lessons into new standards and design. As I said, we should be looking forward to the future, rather than back to the past, as any lessons learned are unlikely to help the millions with existing kit (hence crying over spilt milk - let's accept that it's spilt, clear it up and learn not to spill it in the future).

[David (2)]

the scanning issue is one of the problems with freeview- especially if you have to keep the aerial plug out until the progress bar reaches a certain point, to avoid picking up unwanted channels from other masts.

some equipment will see the change and add automatically (our sony does this in the default mode, but you can turn the feature off), while others (eg, our panasonics) spot the change and ask you if you want to scan or not. Some equipment doesnt see any change at all - eg, our Humax pvr + Grundig tv. You just have to know when things are changing - what no internet? You have a problem.

Ease of use it aint.

[michael21]

there may be some epg change on 30/9/09

[michael21]

There a lot coming up on 30/9/09

Dont foget to rescanon you know when

[TallDave]

As pointed out by David(2), some brands have implemented their own auto-detection algorithms. However, there are sometimes good commercial reasons for not wanting new channels added indescriminately to a receiver (tarts on sofas on the kids' TV being one very good example).

I prefer a manual scan, followed by a sort and renumber of the channels just where I want them. I'm not going to give DMOL the pleasure of automatically adding more shopping/gambling/tarts on sofas channels to my service lineup!

One interesting side-effect of the auto-tune mechanism now being rolled out on DTT is that it'll make the NIT really big! Time to see how many more of the crap receivers keel over!!

[Everything Goes]

Originally Posted by TallDave

As pointed out by David(2), some brands have implemented their own auto-detection algorithms. However, there are sometimes good commercial reasons for not wanting new channels added indescriminately to a receiver (tarts on sofas on the kids' TV being one very good example).

I prefer a manual scan, followed by a sort and renumber of the channels just where I want them. I'm not going to give DMOL the pleasure of automatically adding more shopping/gambling/tarts on sofas channels to my service lineup!

One interesting side-effect of the auto-tune mechanism now being rolled out on DTT is that it'll make the NIT really big! Time to see how many more of the crap receivers keel over!!

This is bound to happen

I fear the worst for my Matsui IDTV

Havent done any re-scans in ages cos im sure the Split NIT will kill it.

[stephenwuk]

Freeview retune messages started already

From Lunchtime on 30th September please re-tune your freeview tv or box using your remote control to continue viewing all availible freeview channels. Press Blue, call 08456 05 11 22 or go www.itv.com/retune to find out more. press yellow to hide this message.

[michael21]

Originally Posted by stephenwuk

Freeview retune messages started already

From Lunchtime on 30th September please re-tune your freeview tv or box using your remote control to continue viewing all availible freeview channels. Press Blue, call 08456 05 11 22 or go www.itv.com/retune to find out more. press yellow to hide this message.

This will happen till 4/10/09

[Bangers]

Originally Posted by Everything Goes

This is bound to happen

I fear the worst for my Matsui IDTV

Havent done any re-scans in ages cos im sure the Split NIT will kill it.

Is it one of those Matsui tellys powered by old ONdigital software? I have a could ONdigital boxes in store that I get out from time to time and update the channel lists on, and they appear ok. Good luck!

[Everything Goes]

Originally Posted by Bangers

Is it one of those Matsui tellys powered by old ONdigital software? I have a could ONdigital boxes in store that I get out from time to time and update the channel lists on, and they appear ok. Good luck!

Yes its an OnDigital set. Matsui 28 DW01. Ive had it for about 9 years and although it doesn't support MHEG its been reliable.

[fatmanpauluk]

I'm already getting sick of the message popping up on my screen everytime I turn the TV on, telling I need to "retune after lunchtime on the 30/9/09. Press yellow to hide message." If I'm to put up with this for another 12 days I'll end up throwing the TV out the window.

[Charnham]

its funny how some people are getting it more than others, ive seen it once, and a I watch a number of channels