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Old 28-08-2009, 14:59   #1
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Emmerdale: Jasmine ans Debbie App. Soc. (Part 2)

Just managed to lose my post and not got time to write it out again.

Thanks for the hugs FF and Dusty (and the banana!).
As you guys have said we can still have the satisfaction of slagging Fridgeman off so I guess that is something. A very small something but better than nowt.

I'm off working for the week again but at least have Debbie kicking him out of her house to look forward to when I get back. Meanwhile I'm going to keep praying that the destruction of the character of Debbie Dingle is not irretrievable and the PI is not as bad as it appears.
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Old 28-08-2009, 18:19   #2
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Ooh we've gotten too big have we?

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I'm waiting until it gets aired before I get all upset about anything.
For me in this particular scenario the way it plays out is irrelevent, whether it comes across that she's madly in love with Michael, or just looking for some no-strings sex, is neither here nor there to me. I don't care what her reasons for doing it are, I fundamentally disagree with her getting involved with a man who she is fully aware is taken, and she can be no more than a mistress to. I cannot believe she would demean herself in such a way, a character once so strong willed and independent, that she could be THAT desperate for love. Most of all I disagree with her introducing that sort of distrustful, sordid scenario into a home that she is sharing with a little girl and do not think it paints her as much of a mother. Her short memory seems to have forgotten that she was pissed off with Andy for sneaking about with Maisie while Sarah was around and the kind of situation she has gotten herself into is far worse, so she really has had something of a cheek to say anything to him about parenting if she was going to turn around a few months after gaining custody and behave in a similar manner, her child's interests secondary to her need of shag. Add on top of that the fact that she was previously so on her high horse about cheating and it seems she has had a personality transplant. Or that any character "growth" she has experienced has not really been that at all, and she is now weak-willed and submissive as well as sort of unlikeable.

She deserves the suffering that this situation will bring her.
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Old 30-08-2009, 22:42   #3
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I come back and we're on p4 and only 3 posts long!!! Seems weird not to be the giant thread anymore. I have not read any of the reaction but I got an update on me hols via text about the ED spoilers.

I am disappointed that Debbie is going to prove another soap women but I can see the drama of the situation and why the long term planners have done it. I also don't think it is wildly out of character for Debbie - although it is hard to totally credit her acceptance of the cheating thing because she has always been oddly moral about that regardless of her lack of moral fibre in other areas. I always largely put that down to what happened with Jasmine who I think she classed as her first love. To attempt to draw somekind of link to that it may be that Debbie is all the more determined not to get her heart broken (again and so soon) and so deliberately sets out to engage in a 'relationship' that can never have a 'loving' conclusion (lots of girls/women I know have done something similar).

It will be interesting to see how CW/writers/directors play it because Debbie has become such a likeable character (and Fridge Magnate has had next to no screen time to engender any real liking or loathing).
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Old 31-08-2009, 11:36   #4
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It struck me earlier this morning that Debbie was voted on DS as Emmerdale's fave character this year - it'll be interesting to see how she fairs this coming year.

(John BArton will sweep the board anyway!)
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Old 31-08-2009, 16:13   #5
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It struck me earlier this morning that Debbie was voted on DS as Emmerdale's fave character this year - it'll be interesting to see how she fairs this coming year.

(John BArton will sweep the board anyway!)
Really? Where did you see that?
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Old 31-08-2009, 19:40   #6
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Really? Where did you see that?
It was a poll in about March time. I think Jasmine came 6th.

Wasn't anything official but there were various rounds of voting.

I assume you mean the poll and not the Pa BArton thing!?
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Old 31-08-2009, 19:57   #7
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Ooh, new thread...

Welcome back LC Yeah, it seems unlikely Debbie will fair so well again this year

I'm really not sure what to think atm - I can understand Debbie getting involved to some extent, but it still feels out of character to me, and contradictory to the more considerate and caring character she's become of late.

I have to say I cringed tonight when her 'sorrow' was linked to Fridgeman I was relieved to see Debbie seeming to be the boss of her own business once more though
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Old 31-08-2009, 20:05   #8
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It was a poll in about March time. I think Jasmine came 6th.

Wasn't anything official but there were various rounds of voting.

I assume you mean the poll and not the Pa BArton thing!?
Yeh the poll :-) Aw that was cool then.
I was just surprised, because apart from on this thread I only tend to spot people bitching about our Debs. :-/ but then I'm not on here loads.
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Old 31-08-2009, 22:26   #9
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Hi guys, sorry haven't been around lately, was trying to calm myself down after the spoilers before posting again, luckily i am calm for now so don't be expecting any mad ranting for the time being.... well not until next week

And welcome back to LC *waves welcome back banners*. I bet it feels weird being on a brand new thread. I know it does to me, need to re-settle back in

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Welcome back LC Yeah, it seems unlikely Debbie will fair so well again this year

I'm really not sure what to think atm - I can understand Debbie getting involved to some extent, but it still feels out of character to me, and contradictory to the more considerate and caring character she's become of late.

I have to say I cringed tonight when her 'sorrow' was linked to Fridgeman I was relieved to see Debbie seeming to be the boss of her own business once more though
I am with you FF. As well as totally undoing Debbie's old character we all know and love who i'm sure wouldn't have behaved the way she is going to next week. GB and ED writers now seem to be undoing the direction they have taken Debbie in herself. Since she has left prison its been made obvious that they wanted to make her softer in character, by giving her lots of mumsy scenes with Sarah and by her interaction with lots of people in the village. I mean last week even Betty mentioned how Debbie was now one of the best mothers in the village. But by giving her next weeks scenes, you are right FF, they are totally contradicting theirselves. Where does that leave us? What are we meant to think? I think sadly there is only one reason Debbie has been taken down this route and that is so they can bring Charity back with a so-called bang. It just seems a shame they have to spoil one character in order to bring in another.

As for tonight's scene, I did notice the 'sorrow' for fridgeman statement, but I was pleasantly surprised by the reaction from Debbie. It may have just been wishful thinking but Debs didn't look at all phased by the fact that he hadn't been around for the past week and was clearly more interested in getting back to work. If only next week didn't have to happen and we didn't have to see fridgey's smug face back in the dales, we could finally put this Debbie/Michael idea to rest.... for good!
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Old 02-09-2009, 14:50   #10
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Debbie - listen to your Aunt, she knows what she's talking about!!

I thought the scenes with Chas might be a silver lining this week, but I was thinking of subtext, didn't expect an actual mention of Jasmine! Was great to see Chas showing her understanding of their relationship and the depth of Debbie's feelings, far more in character for her than her reactions during the court scenes.

I'd like to read Debbie's disappointment after Fridgeman cancelled as the general hurt of rejection, feeling generally insecure about herself after having been essentially rejected by Jasmine, rather than her falling for him, but I guess it depends how the coming weeks actually play out.

BTW - anyone seen Friday's preview clip? Seriously, there is absolutely zero chemistry between these two!
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Old 02-09-2009, 15:33   #11
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ok so what have i missed, my pc has been broken!!!!

debbie i am ashamed of u i cant belive what she is doing with that d**k of life!

Also twist much lol
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Old 02-09-2009, 15:55   #12
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Debbie - listen to your Aunt, she knows what she's talking about!!

I thought the scenes with Chas might be a silver lining this week, but I was thinking of subtext, didn't expect an actual mention of Jasmine! Was great to see Chas showing her understanding of their relationship and the depth of Debbie's feelings, far more in character for her than her reactions during the court scenes.

I'd like to read Debbie's disappointment after Fridgeman cancelled as the general hurt of rejection, feeling generally insecure about herself after having been essentially rejected by Jasmine, rather than her falling for him, but I guess it depends how the coming weeks actually play out.

BTW - anyone seen Friday's preview clip? Seriously, there is absolutely zero chemistry between these two!
I loved last night's episode, Chas I agree FF was brilliant. I was over at my friends house at the time it was on and I had a four year old shouting down my ears but I was like when I heard the Jasmine mention, (third in two weeks) . And i guess we could also say the 'girl-friends' comment was also a Jasmine reference at which Debbie did acknowledge with a smile. Debbie also didn't let us down with what she said about Michael just being for fun and not in it for love. I will wait and see what happens for the rest of the week before i get too optimistic but it does look like the spoilers MAY have got the wrong idea again. Fingers crossed.

I did finally get around to watching Friday's scene today, I was toying whether to or not because I was terrified of what I might see. But I agree 100% FF, that kiss was in no way natural and seemed totally forced to me, not an ounce of connection. Also, interesting that the spoilers we had read led us to believe Debbie pounced on Michael before he rejected her, didn't really look like much pouncing on Debbie's part... to me, it was just a bog standard kiss, not an iota of passion about it .

I have got round to reading spoilers for late on in September and its still not looking good for us lot but I need to convince myself 100% that every single spoiler that I read is going to be just as misjudged as the last lot we have seen. I'm just going to wait now and watch the scenes before I get totally distressed
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Old 02-09-2009, 21:54   #13
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I was very pleased from a Jebbie point of view with last night. Lots of Jasmine references and a real nod from the writers to their relationship with some acknowledgement of why Debs is moving on so fast - she has to because of the 'twist' which simply cannot play out without Debbie's involvement.
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:55   #14
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*Walks in with a Lilmiss sticker stuck to her chest*

Hey guys guess whos back *points to her sticker incase anyones forgotten who she is*
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*Walks in with a Lilmiss sticker stuck to her chest*

Hey guys guess whos back *points to her sticker incase anyones forgotten who she is*
Lilmiss , forget who you are? not even possible. *waves*. Are you hear for a while or is it just a flying visit?

I don't know if any of you have seen the magazine article over on the Jebbie Forum about the Debbie/Fridgeman storyline, its a pretty good article from a Jebbie point of view. I think its safe to say Michael won't be around forever, and it pretty much outlines that Debbie is only going out with him because apparently he makes her feel special and there is absolutely no mention of the 'L' word. I think there may be a Jebbie light at the end of the tunnel in all this
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Old 03-09-2009, 13:47   #16
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wow, havnt been on here for awhile and onto the second part of this thread , just goes to show how much love Jebbie gets from us

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I don't know if any of you have seen the magazine article over on the Jebbie Forum about the Debbie/Fridgeman storyline, its a pretty good article from a Jebbie point of view. I think its safe to say Michael won't be around forever, and it pretty much outlines that Debbie is only going out with him because apparently he makes her feel special and there is absolutely no mention of the 'L' word. I think there may be a Jebbie light at the end of the tunnel in all this
I posted the article, if anyone wants me to post it here I will

Agree with you JF, definetly looks like Michael wont be around for much longer (havnt seen him or his car on the cams over the past week).

Loved the Chas/Debbie scenes on Monday, its been awhile since we`ve seen them and the few little Jasmine remarks Chas throws in too. Ohh an can I just say, loved the little smirk Debbie gave Chas after Chas says "stick wiv ya girlfriends"
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Old 03-09-2009, 16:53   #17
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ok so what have i missed, my pc has been broken!!!!
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Hey guys guess whos back *points to her sticker incase anyones forgotten who she is*
Hey! *waves* Welcome back

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I don't know if any of you have seen the magazine article over on the Jebbie Forum about the Debbie/Fridgeman storyline, its a pretty good article from a Jebbie point of view. I think its safe to say Michael won't be around forever, and it pretty much outlines that Debbie is only going out with him because apparently he makes her feel special and there is absolutely no mention of the 'L' word. I think there may be a Jebbie light at the end of the tunnel in all this
Not seen it yet but that sounds reassuring, along with the stuff with Chas the other night - seems like Jasmine and what they both went through hasn't been totally forgotten just yet Still not looking forward to next week though

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Agree with you JF, definetly looks like Michael wont be around for much longer (havnt seen him or his car on the cams over the past week).
Fingers crossed he's gone before Christmas then I know I'm biased but he seriously is such a dull, boring character!

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Loved the Chas/Debbie scenes on Monday, its been awhile since we`ve seen them and the few little Jasmine remarks Chas throws in too. Ohh an can I just say, loved the little smirk Debbie gave Chas after Chas says "stick wiv ya girlfriends"
Lol, I liked that too It really was great to see the pair of them together again though, and I've missed the insightful side to Chas of late. Hopefully they'll get some more scenes through this story - I think Debbie's gonna need a friend.
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Lilmiss , forget who you are? not even possible. *waves*. Are you hear for a while or is it just a flying visit?

I don't know if any of you have seen the magazine article over on the Jebbie Forum about the Debbie/Fridgeman storyline, its a pretty good article from a Jebbie point of view. I think its safe to say Michael won't be around forever, and it pretty much outlines that Debbie is only going out with him because apparently he makes her feel special and there is absolutely no mention of the 'L' word. I think there may be a Jebbie light at the end of the tunnel in all this
Im here for a while now No i havnt seen the articule. Is Micheal still on our screens?

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wow, havnt been on here for awhile and onto the second part of this thread , just goes to show how much love Jebbie gets from us

I posted the article, if anyone wants me to post it here I will

Agree with you JF, definetly looks like Michael wont be around for much longer (havnt seen him or his car on the cams over the past week).

Loved the Chas/Debbie scenes on Monday, its been awhile since we`ve seen them and the few little Jasmine remarks Chas throws in too. Ohh an can I just say, loved the little smirk Debbie gave Chas after Chas says "stick wiv ya girlfriends"
*waves hand in air* i want the articule posted on here please

Back for a day and already demanding stuff
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Old 04-09-2009, 00:11   #19
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I was very pleased from a Jebbie point of view with last night. Lots of Jasmine references and a real nod from the writers to their relationship with some acknowledgement of why Debs is moving on so fast - she has to because of the 'twist' which simply cannot play out without Debbie's involvement.
↲↲Missed the episode last night cos of my mums rubbish taping abilities. Lol. What went on?↲↲Also hello lil miss x
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Im here for a while now No i havnt seen the articule. Is Micheal still on our screens?

*waves hand in air* i want the articule posted on here please

Back for a day and already demanding stuff
Here you go lilmiss and anyone else that wants to see it...

"Debbies shock love triangle!"
Charley Webb warns Debbies affair with Michael is going to end in heartbreak....

Page 1 - Debbie & Michael pic
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...scan0003-3.jpg

Page 2 - Charley Webb Interview
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...scan0001-4.jpg

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Also I scanned whats to come in the next couple of weeks (lots of Debbie in week 1) and check out the bottom right corner, for "Whats to come..." Michael has another confession for Debbie..
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/e...scan0004-3.jpg
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Old 04-09-2009, 11:12   #21
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Blimey, you go away for a bit and return to find a brand new thread, the welcome return of LC, Lil miss, buffy and another Jasmine mention! I should go away more often

*wanders around new thread* Oooh it feels all weird, right better get started.

*big wave* Lil miss how was the riding? buffy I'm glad your PC is now working, I know I would be bereft if my computer brokedown. LC glad you enjoyed your hols, lol at the ED text updates maybe I should do that. You must be starting school soon, your new job that is, good luck.

How were the Jasmine mentions good/bad? and how many Fridge magnet scenes do I have to endure?

Thanks for the scans awweson. Is it just me, but is that Debbie and Fridge magnet pic just incredibly awkward looking? Even in a photo their lack of chemistry is obvious and he still manages to look smug!
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I was very pleased from a Jebbie point of view with last night. Lots of Jasmine references and a real nod from the writers to their relationship with some acknowledgement of why Debs is moving on so fast - she has to because of the 'twist' which simply cannot play out without Debbie's involvement.
Leaving aside Debbie's slight personality transplant for the reveal/return to work. Is anyone else kinder disappointed with the way they are going to bring Charity back? I guess I was expecting something more original, more exciting. We had speculated a couple of months ago that something along these lines would happen and I'm rather disapointed that we've had it almost spot on. I guess it doesn't help
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that we have to believe that such strong independant woman like Charity and Debbie would fall for the charisma bypass that is Fridge magnet. I just hope that when it all comes out we don't have to endure Debbie and Charity fighting over him. I would find that really trite and boring.
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I know the whole Charity and Michael thing is SOOO predictable, but I still think that when it's revealed it's going to be a shock even though we knew it all along. Will be interesting to see how it actually happens

So who has watched Tuesday's preview over and over? That punch has brightened up my day entirely.
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Missed the episode last night cos of my mums rubbish taping abilities. Lol. What went on?
Chas and Debbie had a few scenes talking about her and Carl, Chas deflecting onto Michael - she asked whether Debs was serious, given that she was 'in love with Jasmine 5 minutes ago' and Debbie avoided the question.

Then in the pub Chas asked whether Debbie was sure she was ready to get back into dating/romance etc. - Debbie said 'Dating, yes, love, no - tried it, hurt, didn't like it.' Then said Fridgeman was 'fit and a laugh' (struggling to see that myself ) and that'd do for now. When he cancelled, Chas said along the lines of 'see, he's no fun now is he? Stick with your girlfriends' then realised what she said and fumbled with a smirk from Debbie

Its a lot better on screen, definitely worth catching a repeat at the weekend.

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*wanders around new thread* Oooh it feels all weird, right better get started.
It really does feel quite odd! Think we need to hang a few Free Jasmine banners up around the place

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How were the Jasmine mentions good/bad? and how many Fridge magnet scenes do I have to endure?
He wasn't in Tuesday's Monday was mostly Debbie being off with him given he's been AWOL, and last night was cringeworthy, with him being duller than ever before. Tuesday was good though, and the Jasmine mentions were good I think

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Thanks for the scans awweson. Is it just me, but is that Debbie and Fridge magnet pic just incredibly awkward looking? Even in a photo their lack of chemistry is obvious and he still manages to look smug!
Yup, totally agree!! There is naff all chemistry between them and he's making Debbie seem dull The sooner he leaves the better.

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Is anyone else kinder disappointed with the way they are going to bring Charity back? I guess I was expecting something more original, more exciting. We had speculated a couple of months ago that something along these lines would happen and I'm rather disapointed that we've had it almost spot on.
Me too - having heard of Charity's 'explosive' return I really did think it would be something far more exciting than this They really could have brought her back any number of ways, nothing was really dictated by the way she left like it was with Cain, yet they opted for this Its just so unimaginative and disappointing and that's before the cack-handed use of Debbie and Fridgeman as a plot device
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So who has watched Tuesday's preview over and over? That punch has brightened up my day entirely.
Is that on ITV's website? I can never get their videos to work Sounds like it'll definitely be worth watching though
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