[voller]

I was just wondering if anyone knew if any of Channel 4's 3d week programs were being shown on the HD channel.

Channel 4 is using ColorCode Technology the same stuff as the superbowl uses in the states but i'm sure that has been discussed on the forum already.

[ccursons]

Originally Posted by voller

I was just wondering if anyone knew if any of Channel 4's 3d week programs were being shown on the HD channel.

Channel 4 is using ColorCode Technology the same stuff as the superbowl uses in the states but i'm sure that has been discussed on the forum already.

I am pretty sure it will all be on the HD channel as Channel 4 HD is just an upscaled version of Channel 4, unless I am reading your question wrong do you think they will suddenly show different programs on the two channels?

[voller]

Sorry i didn't word that very well what i meant was will any of the shows be in native HD not upscaled on their HD channel.

Surprisingly I understand the concept of a simulcast HD channel.

[Mystic Eddy]

Don't know. You could look at the listings and see if any have the HD tag?

[Jaycee Dove]

The new Derren Brown 'events' starting next week are not HD so I doubt that part of the 3 D week (the DB magic show) will be HD either.

The Coronation footage probably has not transfered to HD either or I am sure we would have heard about it.

[bugsy35uk]

Anyone know the actual date the 3D week starts?
This thread was the 1st i heard about it, so i searched a bit more but still can't find a date.
I also read it's being sponsored by Sainsburys, and that they're making some 3D adverts to run during it.
Also...... i read that the 3D glasses will available from Sainsburys stores, but also couldn't find a date that they will be available from either.

[Deacon1972]

Originally Posted by bugsy35uk

Anyone know the actual date the 3D week starts?
This thread was the 1st i heard about it, so i searched a bit more but still can't find a date.
I also read it's being sponsored by Sainsburys, and that they're making some 3D adverts to run during it.
Also...... i read that the 3D glasses will available from Sainsburys stores, but also couldn't find a date that they will be available from either.

It's scheduled for the Autumn - the glasses will be available in 500 stores a week ahead of the screenings.

The glasses look to be the same that were needed for the recent showing of Chuck 3D on Virgin1, blue/amber.

The ColorCode 3D glasses will use amber filters for colour information and blue filters for depth and shows will be shot on twin-lens 'stereoscopic' cameras.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0PrgJCWSr



Programmes will include a two hour documentary titled The Queen In 3D, Derren Brown's 3D Magic Spectacular and The Greatest Ever 3D Moments. A number of as yet undisclosed 3D films will also be broadcast.

[ukool]

not heard of this 3d week till now. Is it just available for hd customers? and will people need to play with thier tv settings to get the 3d effect?

[Blake Connolly]

Originally Posted by ukool

not heard of this 3d week till now. Is it just available for hd customers? and will people need to play with thier tv settings to get the 3d effect?

No, it'll be on normal Channel 4 on all platforms, all you need are the 3D glasses. They're using the more basic colour system so no need to change settings etc., just wear the glasses.

This is a much simpler, less impressive form of 3D compared to what Sky have planned for next year, but should be good fun nonetheless.

[Gae41]

Although it is nice to see some 3D content I actually prefer anaglyph to colorcode. Yes, the colours are slightly better with Colorcode, but I find the 3D effect less pronounced, the image darker and a sheen effect over the image. Maybe it all depends on which one of your eyes is the dominant one...mine is the right one apparently.
Now if only they would broadcast some 3D in Interlaced or even side by side...that way, we could record the shows on our PCs and then view them in whatever formats we wanted....personally I would view them in Page Flip mode in Stereoscopic Player and into my projector...the quality is the best using this method on a par with polarised...if only.....we might be able to do that with Sky's setup next year hopefully. It would certainly be a bonus, not having to fork out yet more money for a 3D ready TV for sure.

Gae41

[dobrocop]

ive seen somewhere that its next weekend,.6,7,8th ,nov.09 ,i was in sainsburys in londonderry and was told they never heard of this channel 4 3D broadcasts or the 3D glasses,.i have contacted sainsburys main office and waiting on a reply,.will post,.cheers,.

[weebit]

the TV schedules don't seem to suggest it's next weekend

[Norm]

I also didn't know about this until I saw this thread. Found these on the Channel 4 website. Looks like it should be this month some time but Digiguide doesn't find it. And it looks like the glasses should be free. And no mention of whether anything is in HD.

3D Week
November

3D imaging has a long history from a 19th century craze; to the 3D movies of the 50s when it was developed to fight off competition from television; and from the 1980s revival that saw Jaws 3D packing in cinemas; to the cutting-edge 3D technology of today.

In a special week of programming, Channel 4 invites viewers to put on their 3D specs and celebrate 3D. We are not talking state of the art IMAX technology here, but some good old fashioned fun. Viewers will be able to pick up their free 3D glasses from participating Sainsbury’s around the country from early November.

Channel 4 airs astonishing, unseen footage, shot in 3D, of The Queen during her Coronation year. A two part series, The Queen in 3D, tells the story of two innovative young camera men, Bob Angell and Arthur Wooster – now in their 80s – who filmed a 3D colour newsreel they named Royal Review. Their footage covers The Queen at the events she attended in the lead up to and after the Coronation in 1953, including her journey to the Coronation itself. It has never been seen before on television.

The series also includes 3D footage of The Queen at the Epsom Derby and a trip on the Royal Barge on the Thames. Arthur and Bob reveal the story behind the making of the films while remembering the mood of an era. With additional archive, current, and some rarely seen 3D and 2D footage, the series revisits the life and times of Britain in the 1950s; a time that ushered in the era of Royals on television and began the cult of Royal celebrity.

In addition Derren Brown's 3D Magic Spectacular features some of the world’s greatest, funniest and most shocking magicians performing magic in stunning 3D. With Derren as host, some of Britain’s leading performers dazzle the audience with incredible trickery, and amazing archive footage features performances of some of the world’s greatest magic tricks.

The Greatest Ever 3D Moments reveals the top ten 3D moments of all time from movies, television and pop videos. Featuring some iconic classics, the countdown includes scenes from the 1950s up to the latest technologically innovative moments from the noughties, with clips from Creatures from the Black Lagoon, Jaws 3D and even Doctor Who. The show also features interviews with the cast and crew from the featured ten best moments. What will take the crown as the best 3D moment seen on our screens?

The week will also include several 3D movies (titles TBC).


Alan Hayling Interview

The following interview is available free for reproduction in full or in part.

This autumn, Channel 4 screens a season of programmes in 3D, the centrepiece of which is a two-part documentary series, The Queen in 3D. The series features remarkable three-dimensional footage, shot 56 years ago, which has lain almost untouched ever since. Alan Hayling, the Editorial Director of Renegade Films, explains how the footage was unearthed after years of lying, forgotten, in archive, and why 3D filming was big in the past, and looks set to be part of our future as well.

You’ve unearthed 3D footage from the time of The Queen’s coronation, 56 years ago. It’s a surprise to discover 3D filming even existed back then.
Oh yeah, I think it existed a long time before that, actually. I’ve seen a 1936 film in black and white, of the building of a Chrysler car, in 3D. 3D could exist from the day that cinematography was invented, because essentially it involves putting two cameras together at the same distance apart as the separation of the human eyes, so about six centimetres, and then in some way coding the two bits of film differently. There are different ways of doing that, we all know the red and blue way of doing it, which isn’t actually the way we’re going to do it for Channel 4. You then project the two bits of film together. In the early 1950s there was a burst of 3D activity.

What was behind that burst?
I think it was the growth of television. It was seen as a threat to cinema, and people running the film industry decided the industry had to respond to this new threat by enhancing the experience in the cinema. So there were a load of 3D movies made, and there were some newsreels shot in 3D as well. The problem was, films in the cinema were in 15 minute reels, so there were always two projectors next to each other. You’d run 15 minutes, then the next 15 minutes would be taken over by the next projector. But if you were going to be doing 3D, you needed both projectors to be running at the same time. Therefore the maximum running length was actually 17 minutes. So 3D documentaries tended to all be 17 minutes in length.

The two-part series is about the documentary footage, but also about the two guys who filmed it. Who were they?
They were two cameramen, Bob Angel and Arthur Wooster. They knew the Coronation was coming, and they decided to do a newsreel of the Queen’s activities for about six weeks before and about six weeks afterwards. It’s a film called Royal Review; it’s a Technicolor newsreel in 3D, and it followed some events in The Queen’s itinerary in the weeks either side of the coronation. It included the Coronation procession, to and from Westminster Abbey, but it didn’t include any of the scenes within the Abbey.

So they shot this footage, since when it’s been lying unseen?
It has. Well, there are different versions. According to them, because the process took longer, it kind of missed the boat. Normal 2D Technicolor newsreel documentaries of the Coronation were kind of rushed out and into the cinema, and their film took longer to make, because of the 3D processes involved, and so according to them it was never screened publicly. But we think it was shown once, because we think we unearthed a review of it somewhere. But if it was shown, it was only ever shown once or twice, back in 1953. It’s not been shown since, and it was certainly never shown on TV. It was made by a company that was owned by Richard Dimbleby, interestingly.

So where has the film been all this time?
It’s slightly mysterious where it’s been. It’s certainly been in the British Film Institute’s archives for some time. The BFI have got a letter from the early 60s from Dixons, the electrical store, passing it to them. It’s basically a letter in which Dixons says ‘We give you this film for your safe keeping for the national archives.’ What we don’t understand is why Dixons had it at all. Anyway, it lay in the BFI archive, like many treasures there. When I was Head of Documentaries at the BBC, we did two series on archive stuff with the BFI. One was with very early film, from the turn of the century, and the other featured the earliest colour film, from 1924, so there are these absolute gems that the BFI have, and it requires a television company to turn up and say ‘Hmm, that’s interesting.’

But in order to do that, you first have to know about the film’s existence. How did you find out about it?
The creative director of Renegade and I were at MIP about a year and a half ago. We were waiting to have a meeting, and we were standing by this plasma television, which was the first ever 3D plasma television – you could watch it in 3D without glasses and everything leapt out of the screen. Standing next to it was this bloke who was demonstrating it. He was just showing animations and, I think, one documentary on it, and we were struck by how impressive it was. We asked what else he had, and he said ‘Well, the Coronation was filmed in 3D, did you know that?’ And we said ‘Naah’, and he said ‘I’ve seen it. Honestly.’ And then we went in to Channel 4 for a meeting sometime later. Our head of Specialist factual at Renegade had made a film with James Cameron in 3D, and so we proposed the idea of a 3D season to Channel 4. And David Glover, the commissioning editor, was slightly sceptical – wouldn’t everybody have to wear glasses? And then we said ‘The Coronation was filmed in 3D.’ And he said ‘No! I don’t believe you!’ So he said that if we could find the 3D footage of the Coronation, he’d tale the idea of a 3D season seriously. So it was sort of a challenge.

How did you go about finding it?
Well, we had to track down the bloke who’d been demonstrating the TV, which took us five months. Eventually we managed to track him down, and we found him and he confirmed that the footage existed. He told us that there was a company run by the son of one of the guys who filmed the footage, and it was a specialist 3D company. So he put us in touch with a company called Can Communicate, and its managing director, David Wooster. We phoned David, who confirmed that his father had shot the film, and that the company had a copy of it. He invited us to see it, and we saw it, so then we took David Glover to see it, because he was now convinced it didn’t exist. We showed it to him, and he said ‘It’s the nearest thing to time travel that I have ever experienced.’ So that’s how the 3D season came about. And we’re doing these two films in association with Can Communicate and the BFI. The BFI have got a lot of other 3D films from 1952 and 1953 that we’re going to be using, as well as Royal Review.

Tell me about these other bits of footage. What will you be showing?
There’s a film the same two shot in Madeira, about Brits going on holiday. There’s a film shot in London Zoo about how 3D works, that was made for the Festival of Britain. There’s a Capstan cigarette advert in 3D, where the smoke gets blown out of the screen. There’s coal mining, there’s a sports one, with Dennis Compton and some football – I think it’s called On the Ball. There’s Swan Lake in 3D. There’s loads more, that’s just some of them.

And how will people at home be able to see the 3-dimensional aspect to the footage?
Channel 4 will be giving away zillions of glasses for people to use to watch. But it’s a new system, called Colour Code, which means that you can watch it without the glasses, and it will be watchable. It works in 2D as well as 3D.

Are you shooting any new material in 3D?
Yeah, we’ve shot loads of material with The Queen already. We’ve filmed the Royal garden party, we’ve filmed something called swan-upping. Obviously she owns all the swans, and there’s a ceremony where the new signets are tagged and she goes up the Thames. We’re kind of making Royal Review all over again, but a modern version of it.

Is that a complicated process, shooting it in 3D?
No, not at all. The camera’s rather big, but apart from that, no, it’s easy.

Sky recently announced a new 3D channel they will be launching. Is 3D the future of television?
I think it’s going to be a bit like HD – it provides an enhanced experience. I think there will be subscription channels that offer a 3D experience. We’re already talking to people about shooting documentaries in 3D.

[dobrocop]

starts mon 16th nov,.free 3d glasses from all but a few sainsbury uk stores,.

[JonStatt]

Originally Posted by dobrocop

starts mon 16th nov,.free 3d glasses from all but a few sainsbury uk stores,.

You mean there will be bins of glasses left near the front of the stores? That sounds like a receipe for abuse and running out of them faster than you can say "3D week"! They should have charged something nominal like 50p per pair to control the distribution a bit.

[dobrocop]

3d glasses now in every store im told ,.and are available from 4th nov,.i agree they should have charged for them and then given proceeds to charity,..

[JonStatt]

Originally Posted by dobrocop

3d glasses now in every store im told ,.and are available from 4th nov,.i agree they should have charged for them and then given proceeds to charity,..

Thanks for the update. Really looking forward to this

[daclick]

Anywhere other than sainsburys where i can get the glasses?

[daniel99]

i have the Chuck 3D Glasses will these be anygood.

[Gae41]

i have the Chuck 3D Glasses will these be anygood.

I believe that they used the Colorcode glasses (Blue and Yellow/Brown) for Chuck so yes, those are the correct ones....test below

ColorCode Skydivers

Gae41

[daniel99]

they work and the 3D is amazeing.

[JonStatt]

Anyone passed by a Sainsbury's yet?!

[cockney]

Just passed a Sainsbury's on my lunch then came back & read this....Damn

[ccursons]

Picked up my glasses this morning, they are in packs of two and because I grabbed two packs thinking they were single sets Ive ended up with four sets :0/ atleast I have some though :0)

[grimsbyseagulls]

The 3D glasses I picked up from Sainsburys this afternoon were singles , there must have been thousands of them in an enormous display tub.