England in South Africa and Bangladesh (cricket) (Merged) - Sport

richie4eva · 18-09-2009, 16:05

With the Ashes secured for England and the ODI's sealed for Australia, attention will turn towards the Champions Trophy and winter tours of South Africa and Bangladesh

Tour itinerary for South Africa - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cric...nd/7848449.stm

kwscott · 18-09-2009, 20:43

I was wondering when the thread would start

When are the squads selected any ideas

Darren Lethem · 20-09-2009, 17:05

Englands Champions Tour Squad has been selected for ages, about 3 weeks I think

Champions Trophy Squad/ODI squad: Andrew Strauss (captain), James Anderson, Ravi Bopara, Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad, Paul Collingwood, Joe Denly, Eoin Morgan, Graham Onions, Matt Prior, Adil Rashid, Owais Shah, Ryan Sidebottom, Graeme Swann, Luke Wright

kwscott · 20-09-2009, 19:57

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Originally Posted by Darren Lethem

Englands Champions Tour Squad has been selected for ages, about 3 weeks I think

Champions Trophy Squad/ODI squad: Andrew Strauss (captain), James Anderson, Ravi Bopara, Tim Bresnan, Stuart Broad, Paul Collingwood, Joe Denly, Eoin Morgan, Graham Onions, Matt Prior, Adil Rashid, Owais Shah, Ryan Sidebottom, Graeme Swann, Luke Wright

I knew the champions trophey squad i hope the preform better than they did in te series that finished today

Any idea when the test squad is announced

MR. Macavity · 21-09-2009, 10:12

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Originally Posted by kwscott

I knew the champions trophey squad i hope the preform better than they did in te series that finished today

Any idea when the test squad is announced

They are delaying announcing the SA squads until after the ICC Trophy. Can't think why...........

david04121980 · 21-09-2009, 11:46

Does anybody have any idea where the England Lions are going this winter and when?

Serial Lurker · 21-09-2009, 12:17

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Does anybody have any idea where the England Lions are going this winter and when?

Nothing is scheduled yet as far as I know. Not even named the squad - probably will do at the same time as the test squad is announced as I imagine there'll be one or two "demotions".

david04121980 · 21-09-2009, 14:07

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Nothing is scheduled yet as far as I know. Not even named the squad - probably will do at the same time as the test squad is announced as I imagine there'll be one or two "demotions".

Well I was more thinking along the lines of If the Lions also go to South Africa at the same time as the Full squad Why don't England Full Squad only name 12/13 players and then have players as back up from the Lions team. This will give the back up members a chance of a bit of form rather than sitting looking grim and carrying drinks? The coaches can also take a few players who have missed out on the Lions team to get some training in and as back up as well?

Darren Lethem · 21-09-2009, 14:49

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Originally Posted by MR. Macavity

They are delaying announcing the SA squads until after the ICC Trophy. Can't think why...........

Well as a cricket fan you will understand that a test squad is totally different to picking a squad for a OD tournament.

MR. Macavity · 21-09-2009, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Darren Lethem

Well as a cricket fan you will understand that a test squad is totally different to picking a squad for a OD tournament.

Yes, as a cricket fan, I do understand the difference between Tests and ODIs.

But there are a number of players in the ICC trophy squad who's place in the test squad for SA may be affected by their performance in the ICCT. e.g Bopara, Denely, Shah, Sidebottom, Rashid etc. So for instance, if Bopara scores 0, 3, 7 in England's 3 games there's a possibilty that he will not be named in the test squad. However if he scores 172, 112, 100 no. and England make it into the semis (this is all wildly speculative you understand), then quite likely he will get the nod. And there are a number of other players who you could apply similar scenarios to. The selectors have affectively had their hands tied behind their backs in the ODIs v Aus, so they are sensibly keeping their options open.

ACU · 21-09-2009, 16:38

Lets have everyones predictions for the ICC Champions trophy.

My heart says Pakistan, however I think Australia will win. They seem to be in good form at the moment.

To be honest there is only one match that counts in this tournament, and thats Pakistan V India.

david04121980 · 21-09-2009, 16:54

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Originally Posted by ACU

Lets have everyones predictions for the ICC Champions trophy.

My heart says Pakistan, however I think Australia will win. They seem to be in good form at the moment.

To be honest there is only one match that counts in this tournament, and thats Pakistan V India.

south africa to win in a cracking final v australia

kwscott · 21-09-2009, 16:57

I think it will be South Africa or India

England to be knocked out in the group stage

david04121980 · 21-09-2009, 17:38

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Originally Posted by kwscott

I think it will be South Africa or India

England to be knocked out in the group stage

you say England to be knocked out in the group stage, why do you say that? England on a roll now

david04121980 · 21-09-2009, 17:45

Why has Mike Atherton put David Gower in the best 1 day 11 of all time for England when is Avg is only 30 from 114 matches and just over 3100 runs in total?

Darren Lethem · 21-09-2009, 17:51

I have put my money where my mouth is and had a bet on South Africa to win it

alanwarwic · 21-09-2009, 19:27

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Originally Posted by david04121980

Why has Mike Atherton put David Gower in the best 1 day 11 of all time for England when is Avg is only 30 from 114 matches and just over 3100 runs in total?

Cause Gower and Atherton love to smoke a joint together.

Just fibbing but they both had a similar laid back attitude.
Did he choose Ian Bell?

swingaleg · 21-09-2009, 19:35

ICC trophy starts tomorrow...........

South Africa v Sri Lanka..........first match on Sky in the afternoon and evening.........

I reckon that could just be the Final as well............

Fancy Sri Lanka to win...........

England to lose all 3 group games probably..........

fab cesc · 21-09-2009, 20:06

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Originally Posted by swingaleg

ICC trophy starts tomorrow...........

South Africa v Sri Lanka..........first match on Sky in the afternoon and evening.........

I reckon that could just be the Final as well............

Fancy Sri Lanka to win...........

England to lose all 3 group games probably..........

It's kind of snuck up out of no where hasn't it, i'm predicting SA to win tomorrow but Sri Lanka to get their revenge in the final

Darren Lethem · 22-09-2009, 04:37

I have a sneaky feeling that the two teams in the first game of the Champions Trophy will be the same two teams in the last game of the Champions trophy.

david1955 · 22-09-2009, 08:07

I am surprised at a report in today's Telegraph which is very negative about The Champions Trophy, saying it is unloved, and is likely to be the last one.

To me , this is by far the best OD tournament, much better than the World Cup which goes on for ages to eliminate the weaker nations, or any of those tri nation competitions which seem to happen all the time.

Very difficult to pick a winner, though I reckon we can exclude England and The West Indies ( I assume they are back at full strength ).

I will go for a final between Sri Lanka and Australia, and hope Sri Lanka prevail.

Tel69 · 22-09-2009, 08:41

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Originally Posted by kwscott

I think it will be South Africa or India

England to be knocked out in the group stage

I'd go along with that. Sri Lanka as dark horses if their batsmen can perform on the bouncy wickets. We'll be home before the postcards.

Darren Lethem · 22-09-2009, 08:43

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Originally Posted by david1955

I am surprised at a report in today's Telegraph which is very negative about The Champions Trophy, saying it is unloved, and is likely to be the last one.

To me , this is by far the best OD tournament, much better than the World Cup which goes on for ages to eliminate the weaker nations, or any of those tri nation competitions which seem to happen all the time.

Very difficult to pick a winner, though I reckon we can exclude England and The West Indies ( I assume they are back at full strength ).

I will go for a final between Sri Lanka and Australia, and hope Sri Lanka prevail.

Those lesser nations do cause a surprise though

I think if we are to have a t20 world cup then it should replace the CT and alternate years with world cup

ACU · 22-09-2009, 09:32

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I'd go along with that. Sri Lanka as dark horses if their batsmen can perform on the bouncy wickets. We'll be home before the postcards.

Indian batsmen can not play on bouncy wickets, so why do you think they will get to the final

Tel69 · 22-09-2009, 09:35

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Indian batsmen can not play on bouncy wickets, so why do you think they will get to the final

In the past that was probably the case but I don't think so anymore. India have a strong all round ODI and test side and will be very difficult to beat on any surface and that's where the improvement lies.

18-09-2009, 16:05	#1
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ACU Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,054	Lets have everyones predictions for the ICC Champions trophy. My heart says Pakistan, however I think Australia will win. They seem to be in good form at the moment. To be honest there is only one match that counts in this tournament, and thats Pakistan V India.

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kwscott Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: At Home Services: Virgin Media Posts: 6,061	I think it will be South Africa or India England to be knocked out in the group stage

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david04121980 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: bedford Services: sky tv, virgin broadband Posts: 1,209	Why has Mike Atherton put David Gower in the best 1 day 11 of all time for England when is Avg is only 30 from 114 matches and just over 3100 runs in total?

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Darren Lethem Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, Yorkshire Services: Sky + Posts: 7,453	I have put my money where my mouth is and had a bet on South Africa to win it

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swingaleg Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Gender: Not specified Location: London Services: Telewest Digital Malarky Posts: 45,568	ICC trophy starts tomorrow........... South Africa v Sri Lanka..........first match on Sky in the afternoon and evening......... I reckon that could just be the Final as well............ Fancy Sri Lanka to win........... England to lose all 3 group games probably..........

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Darren Lethem Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hull, Yorkshire Services: Sky + Posts: 7,453	I have a sneaky feeling that the two teams in the first game of the Champions Trophy will be the same two teams in the last game of the Champions trophy.

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david1955 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: nottingham Posts: 1,909	I am surprised at a report in today's Telegraph which is very negative about The Champions Trophy, saying it is unloved, and is likely to be the last one. To me , this is by far the best OD tournament, much better than the World Cup which goes on for ages to eliminate the weaker nations, or any of those tri nation competitions which seem to happen all the time. Very difficult to pick a winner, though I reckon we can exclude England and The West Indies ( I assume they are back at full strength ). I will go for a final between Sri Lanka and Australia, and hope Sri Lanka prevail.