Stargate Universe | (US PACE) | 2nd October | No Spoilers - Cult

ferrit3000 · 02-10-2009, 19:39

After years of development, the new Stargate show starts tonight in the US and Canada. Also, I heard it will be on Sky Anytime from tomorrow, so I guess if those people want to discuss it, they can do that here too instead of the UK pace thread

5 hours to go.

TPL · 03-10-2009, 03:20

Good, certainly has potential.

I see some good ongoing plots being set up.

Let's see where the next few episodes lead.

mrkite77 · 03-10-2009, 06:04

I liked it.. but it is rather similar to the start of Atlantis, isn't it?

I hope that it's man vs universe, rather than man vs some alien race.

03-10-2009, 06:18

Voyager meets BSG in the Stargate Universe...via Lost...I liked it!

I wonder who turns out to the betrayer type character...Colonel Young?

Kuldiin · 03-10-2009, 06:58

US got both episodes the same day, the UK gets it dragged over two weeks.

Wonder why people download from torrents...

platelet · 03-10-2009, 08:17

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Originally Posted by Kuldiin

the UK gets it dragged over two weeks.

I don't think so, Episode 1 20:00, Episode 2 21:00

mrkite77 · 03-10-2009, 09:14

I love that the first spaceship was named The Hammond.

dsrichard · 03-10-2009, 11:05

Was it me or did anyone else think that the opening frame and the first few bars of music looked and sounded like... Star Trek?

O'Neal looked chubby and was even more wooden than usual. Is he jacked up on botox? And could be look any more like he couldn't care less about his role in Stargate?

At 29 minutes in when Samantha Carter makes her cameo, the music sounds like the start of Battlestar Galactica.

The communicator device came across as unlikely and made up and spoiled it all a bit.

But all in all, it was as competent a reboot for Stargate as we could have hoped for. I'll be back.

TPL · 03-10-2009, 11:37

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Originally Posted by dsrichard

Was it me or did anyone else think that the opening frame and the first few bars of music looked and sounded like... Star Trek?

O'Neal looked chubby and was even more wooden than usual. Is he jacked up on botox? And could be look any more like he couldn't care less about his role in Stargate?

At 29 minutes in when Samantha Carter makes her cameo, the music sounds like the start of Battlestar Galactica.

The communicator device came across as unlikely and made up and spoiled it all a bit.

But all in all, it was as competent a reboot for Stargate as we could have hoped for. I'll be back.

Well it does have precedent for existing from several SG-1 episodes.

ferrit3000 · 03-10-2009, 12:44

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Originally Posted by mrkite77

I liked it.. but it is rather similar to the start of Atlantis, isn't it?

I hope that it's man vs universe, rather than man vs some alien race.

I didn't think it came off like Atlantis, perhaps the basic premise of going through the gat to the unknown and figuring out how to work things, but the details, shooting style, characters and sense of urgency made it feel very different.

And it looks like you'll get your wish on the second point, usually if a show like this is going to have a main enemy, they're set up immediately.

Methos_343 · 03-10-2009, 12:48

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Originally Posted by dsrichard

Was it me or did anyone else think that the opening frame and the first few bars of music looked and sounded like... Star Trek?

So it wasn't just me then! I was half expecting to hear "Space.....the final frontier........"

rivercity_rules · 03-10-2009, 16:54

Would I be able to understand this all having not watched any other Stargate series or is there a lot of tying in to previous shows that would make it more difficult to understand what's going on?

The Sky Trailers look excellent and I'm thinking watching tomorrow but don't want to waste two hours if it's difficult for a total newbie to follow?

zounds · 03-10-2009, 17:04

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Originally Posted by rivercity_rules

Would I be able to understand this all having not watched any other Stargate series

I don't think you'll have any problems, I seem to remember reading that Robert Carlisle hasn't watched them himself and said there was no need to as it's pretty much stand alone.

ferrit3000 · 03-10-2009, 17:05

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Originally Posted by rivercity_rules

Would I be able to understand this all having not watched any other Stargate series or is there a lot of tying in to previous shows that would make it more difficult to understand what's going on?

The Sky Trailers look excellent and I'm thinking watching tomorrow but don't want to waste two hours if it's difficult for a total newbie to follow?

You should be OK. They made a conscious effort to make the show much more accessible to new fans. There may be a couple of confusing things but there's nothing too difficult to get your head around, and certainly nothing that can't be explained by us if you need some more help

Plus, the tone is completely different to the previous shows. It's about as close to a reboot as you can get, without, well... rebooting it

kookiethekat · 03-10-2009, 18:01

Is this on anyones anytime as per the OP? I can't see it on mine

ferrit3000 · 03-10-2009, 18:13

Apologies if it isn't, I must have been misinformed

kookiethekat · 03-10-2009, 18:18

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Originally Posted by ferrit3000

Apologies if it isn't, I must have been misinformed

I went bounding into the living room, scaring the life out of hubby, snatched the remote and looked lol.

He thinks I'm insane anyway

Rooks · 03-10-2009, 18:29

I'm undecided on this after the pilot episode. It tries to be serious but then gets incredibly silly in the setup for Eli's involvement in the show. Robert Carlyle was great as were Eli and Chloe. The rest I didn't warm to at all. It's too early to judge but I've not been won over yet.

Biffo the Bear · 03-10-2009, 21:07

What a peculiar show this is.

I warmed to it pretty quickly - it's clear that they've taken the BSG influence on board whilst retaining the essence of Stargate to pass as a more 'serious' version, and I was glad about that. Also, it's got one of the best scores I've heard in a show for a while i.e. synth music, which I always thinks goes fantastically with sci-fi, as it's much better in evoking an atmosphere than some MOR track a la Smallville.

I didn't think the reveal of the communication stones was very clever, at least not at this stage. It kind of destroyed the sense of isolation - it would've been better if the little machine that's needed to power the stones was broken, and it took a season to improvise enough bits to fix it or something.

So what was it that made me think ermmm... Well, two things:

1. Eli. His scenes were almost like your archetypal 'c-c-c-c-combo breakers' insofar as a really tense sequence had been set up, and *tape screeches to a halt* there he his pulling a funny face or saying something that's not particularly funny. Now whilst I realise that this could be a scripting problem, I really do think he could die a horrible death in the next episode and you wouldn't miss a thing. I don't know who his character is designed to appeal to.

2. The last 20 minutes, where it descended from a well set-up tense and (surprisingly) psychological flow, into all-American slush, with your Dawson-esque refrains (apropos the completely ill-fitting scene with Lt Scott and Chloe).

Still, it's different, and there's enough there to keep me hooked for the rest of the season. Although I will draw the line at:

1. The episode where they have clips from the other episodes, because someone's been put on trial by someone else using a mind-reading device

or

2. The episode where they find a really antiquated culture, who are actually ruled by a very sophisticated people who secretly live underground nearby.

edit - I have to admit, I did see one or two shades of the 'young SG1' from 200

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwyIM...eature=related

Hathor · 03-10-2009, 21:41

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Originally Posted by mrkite77

I love that the first spaceship was named The Hammond.

This will have been a tribute to Don S. Davis. R.I.P.

paulschapman · 03-10-2009, 22:24

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Originally Posted by Kuldiin

US got both episodes the same day, the UK gets it dragged over two weeks.

Wonder why people download from torrents...

The pilot is actually 3 parts and both the US and UK get the 1st and 2nd episodes (US last night and UK Tuesday)

Warming · 04-10-2009, 02:24

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Originally Posted by dsrichard

Was it me or did anyone else think that the opening frame and the first few bars of music looked and sounded like... Star Trek?

Hehe, no - totally Star Trek - I was sitting there going "Space... the final frontier"

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsrichard

O'Neal looked chubby and was even more wooden than usual. Is he jacked up on botox? And could be look any more like he couldn't care less about his role in Stargate?

They say that Richard Dean Anderson had broken something whilst mountain climbing, and had been laid up in bed for six months. And that he is going to get in better shape for the next SG1 movie.

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Originally Posted by dsrichard

But all in all, it was as competent a reboot for Stargate as we could have hoped for. I'll be back.

I disagree about the competency.

And also about it being (or needing) a reboot. But it would have to be BSG bad before I leave (or Melrose place bad!)

Warming · 04-10-2009, 02:25

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Originally Posted by rivercity_rules

Would I be able to understand this all having not watched any other Stargate series or is there a lot of tying in to previous shows that would make it more difficult to understand what's going on?

What would be the point of getting rid of all the old casts (except for 30 second cameos) and getting all new and young people in - if they are going to make it impossible for others to catch on?

viewaskew · 04-10-2009, 03:25

I liked it but there were a few inconsistencies that caught my eye such as

spoiler:
- if the ship was built by the Ancients why there were lifts instead of transporters as we saw on Atlantis?
- why is the architecture different and why does the ship interior look so grubby seeing as how it hasnt actually been exposed to anything as it left the galaxy unmanned?
- If the ship left unmanned then why were the CO2 scrubbers used up? If there were no crew then there would be no buildup of CO2 therefore the scrubbers would be pristine!

apart from that I thought it was really good - kinda dark and sinister even....

KennyT · 04-10-2009, 07:52

I dunno. It just didn't "feel" right to me. I've really enjoyed the previous SG incarnations and didn't think the style needed any "rebooting". None of the new characters have really gripped me yet. I thought Eli was especially annoying, but even Robert Carlysle's character was too much of an enigma to be the technical focal "point of trust". But perhaps that's the idea, not to have a "Sam" or "Rodney" there to just "Techno-magic" a solution at the end of each episode.

The whole thing smacked of ripping off other ideas (I know, there aren't any new ideas around so you gotta be ripping off something!) - Voyager and The Last Starfighter immediately sprang to mind as "sources". There's an attempt to be a bit "BSG-grimy" but it didn't really seem to have the nerve to follow that through.

There were some good bits, though. The fleeting sex scene and its use later in the script was well done. As always, SG gives good "spacebattle" (although this one wasn't nearly as good as some of the SGA ones.) The odd flash of humour was welcome.

Perhaps I'll come to like it and I'll give the next few episodes a go as I have really enjoyed the franchise up to now, but it's "on probation"...

K

02-10-2009, 19:39	#1
ferrit3000 Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,087	Stargate Universe \| (US PACE) \| 2nd October \| No Spoilers After years of development, the new Stargate show starts tonight in the US and Canada. Also, I heard it will be on Sky Anytime from tomorrow, so I guess if those people want to discuss it, they can do that here too instead of the UK pace thread 5 hours to go.

04-10-2009, 03:25	#24
viewaskew Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Services: Virgin 10Mb, VM XL , Freeview, O2, SE K800i Posts: 2,540	I liked it but there were a few inconsistencies that caught my eye such as spoiler: - if the ship was built by the Ancients why there were lifts instead of transporters as we saw on Atlantis? - why is the architecture different and why does the ship interior look so grubby seeing as how it hasnt actually been exposed to anything as it left the galaxy unmanned? - If the ship left unmanned then why were the CO2 scrubbers used up? If there were no crew then there would be no buildup of CO2 therefore the scrubbers would be pristine! apart from that I thought it was really good - kinda dark and sinister even....

03-10-2009, 03:20	#2
TPL Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,133	Good, certainly has potential. I see some good ongoing plots being set up. Let's see where the next few episodes lead.

03-10-2009, 06:04	#3
mrkite77 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: arizona Posts: 1,452	I liked it.. but it is rather similar to the start of Atlantis, isn't it? I hope that it's man vs universe, rather than man vs some alien race.

03-10-2009, 06:18	#4
RumBaaBaa Posts: n/a	Voyager meets BSG in the Stargate Universe...via Lost...I liked it! I wonder who turns out to the betrayer type character...Colonel Young?

03-10-2009, 06:58	#5
Kuldiin Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 61	US got both episodes the same day, the UK gets it dragged over two weeks. Wonder why people download from torrents...

03-10-2009, 09:14	#7
mrkite77 Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: arizona Posts: 1,452	I love that the first spaceship was named The Hammond.

03-10-2009, 11:05	#8
dsrichard Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: London - Finsbury Park Services: Freeview, BT Total Broadband, BT Vision Posts: 976	Was it me or did anyone else think that the opening frame and the first few bars of music looked and sounded like... Star Trek? O'Neal looked chubby and was even more wooden than usual. Is he jacked up on botox? And could be look any more like he couldn't care less about his role in Stargate? At 29 minutes in when Samantha Carter makes her cameo, the music sounds like the start of Battlestar Galactica. The communicator device came across as unlikely and made up and spoiled it all a bit. But all in all, it was as competent a reboot for Stargate as we could have hoped for. I'll be back.

03-10-2009, 16:54	#12
rivercity_rules Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Services: Awaiting Diana Vickers Album. The True Winner Of X Factor! Posts: 16,045	Would I be able to understand this all having not watched any other Stargate series or is there a lot of tying in to previous shows that would make it more difficult to understand what's going on? The Sky Trailers look excellent and I'm thinking watching tomorrow but don't want to waste two hours if it's difficult for a total newbie to follow?

03-10-2009, 18:01	#15
kookiethekat Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nottingham, UK Services: Virgin Broadband & Phone, SKY +HD Posts: 602	Is this on anyones anytime as per the OP? I can't see it on mine

03-10-2009, 18:13	#16
ferrit3000 Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,087	Apologies if it isn't, I must have been misinformed

03-10-2009, 18:29	#18
Rooks Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,713	I'm undecided on this after the pilot episode. It tries to be serious but then gets incredibly silly in the setup for Eli's involvement in the show. Robert Carlyle was great as were Eli and Chloe. The rest I didn't warm to at all. It's too early to judge but I've not been won over yet.

03-10-2009, 21:07	#19
Biffo the Bear Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Nottingham Services: Prestel 14.4k, ZX81, Betamax video player Posts: 6,487	What a peculiar show this is. I warmed to it pretty quickly - it's clear that they've taken the BSG influence on board whilst retaining the essence of Stargate to pass as a more 'serious' version, and I was glad about that. Also, it's got one of the best scores I've heard in a show for a while i.e. synth music, which I always thinks goes fantastically with sci-fi, as it's much better in evoking an atmosphere than some MOR track a la Smallville. I didn't think the reveal of the communication stones was very clever, at least not at this stage. It kind of destroyed the sense of isolation - it would've been better if the little machine that's needed to power the stones was broken, and it took a season to improvise enough bits to fix it or something. So what was it that made me think ermmm... Well, two things: 1. Eli. His scenes were almost like your archetypal 'c-c-c-c-combo breakers' insofar as a really tense sequence had been set up, and tape screeches to a halt there he his pulling a funny face or saying something that's not particularly funny. Now whilst I realise that this could be a scripting problem, I really do think he could die a horrible death in the next episode and you wouldn't miss a thing. I don't know who his character is designed to appeal to. 2. The last 20 minutes, where it descended from a well set-up tense and (surprisingly) psychological flow, into all-American slush, with your Dawson-esque refrains (apropos the completely ill-fitting scene with Lt Scott and Chloe). Still, it's different, and there's enough there to keep me hooked for the rest of the season. Although I will draw the line at: 1. The episode where they have clips from the other episodes, because someone's been put on trial by someone else using a mind-reading device or 2. The episode where they find a really antiquated culture, who are actually ruled by a very sophisticated people who secretly live underground nearby. edit - I have to admit, I did see one or two shades of the 'young SG1' from 200 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwyIM...eature=related

04-10-2009, 07:52	#25
KennyT Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NW London Services: VM (3for£50)/2 Toppy5800's - BB 20Mbps (sometimes) Posts: 14,423	I dunno. It just didn't "feel" right to me. I've really enjoyed the previous SG incarnations and didn't think the style needed any "rebooting". None of the new characters have really gripped me yet. I thought Eli was especially annoying, but even Robert Carlysle's character was too much of an enigma to be the technical focal "point of trust". But perhaps that's the idea, not to have a "Sam" or "Rodney" there to just "Techno-magic" a solution at the end of each episode. The whole thing smacked of ripping off other ideas (I know, there aren't any new ideas around so you gotta be ripping off something!) - Voyager and The Last Starfighter immediately sprang to mind as "sources". There's an attempt to be a bit "BSG-grimy" but it didn't really seem to have the nerve to follow that through. There were some good bits, though. The fleeting sex scene and its use later in the script was well done. As always, SG gives good "spacebattle" (although this one wasn't nearly as good as some of the SGA ones.) The odd flash of humour was welcome. Perhaps I'll come to like it and I'll give the next few episodes a go as I have really enjoyed the franchise up to now, but it's "on probation"... K