[Biko]

Have you actually heard their debut album yet? There seems to be major love for these guys but they've only released one single which in my opinion is pretty average. I'm not just talking about the girls that love them coz they're "sooooo fit innit" but generally. I don't know about you guys but I judge a band from their albums rather than a couple of sub par singles. Its one thing to be excited for an album release because a band has intrigued you enough but its another thing to declare them the best thing to happen to pop since the Beatles based on a couple of songs

[kutox]

spot on there. as i said in another thread, JLS are a prime example of a packaged, manufactured boyband aimed at 10-year-olds. they got their fame from x factor, they sing (or mime) other people's songs and are being given the most ludicrous amount of airplay and promotion - hence why Beat Again (an average cheesy song in my opinion) got to no.1. their new (even more cheesy) song will probably go the same way for the same reasons.

by having an image that targets young girls - i.e. the songs, lyrics (along the lines of 'baby i love you, i can't live without you') and the dancing - they've taken the easiest route to commercial success possible. they could sing anything and their army of hysterical 10-year-old female fans would still be saying 'OMG JLS ARE AMAZING OMG OMG!!!' i'd love some of their fans to tell me exactly why that is. i mean, Beat Again was an ok song, but why do those people think they are so 'amazing' and 'brillliant' just because of one or two songs which they mime to a lot of the time because of their silly dancing?

i'm not saying i hate bands who don't write their own material, but JLS have had it so easy it's unreal.

[Stupid_Head]

Paragraphs people, PARA****INGGRAPHS.

[TommyGavin76]

I like JLS, they are what they are and their songs are decent. Girls Aloud have done alright and they are completely manufactured.

[pear_juice]

I like them but dont think their amazing, because there not

The reason I like them, is because yes they're songs are catchy (wish they write their own though), but there isnt anyone else like them around right now. When was the last time we had a good boyband? . . .

[pear_juice]

Oh and there also not a manufactured band, even though they're songs might be

[XJLSXFANX]

1. there not manufactured
2. they've been around before the x factor and have many fans from the UFO days
3. Comment about writing there own songs, on the album theyve written 9 out of 14 songs themselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KxKNnuNb40
A leaked song from the album, In my opinon this is the best song out of the originals we've heard from them so far.

[major winters]

When was the last time we had a good boyband?

Good boyband is an oxymoron.

The xfactor is a shower of pi**. It produces pitiful acts whose only claim to fame is the quick buck they make for simon cowell before spending a meaningless life emptying bins/working in tesco...

It wouldn't bother me that much if the cycle stopped at some point. But no, the british public continue to buy this overhyped tripe straight off the conveyor belt. Simon cowell is a f***ing genius-he knows that most of the public are absolute f***ing retards.

Does not one of you feel an ounce of shame/self-loathing when you buy this crap?

Oh and by the way kissJLSkissFANkiss-co writing on a song(they didn't write a scratch themselves)=sitting on your talentless ass watching someone else do some work.

[TommyGavin76]

Originally Posted by major winters

Good boyband is an oxymoron.

The xfactor is a shower of pi**. It produces pitiful acts whose only claim to fame is the quick buck they make for simon cowell before spending a meaningless life emptying bins/working in tesco...

It wouldn't bother me that much if the cycle stopped at some point. But no, the british public continue to buy this overhyped tripe straight off the conveyor belt. Simon cowell is a f***ing genius-he knows that most of the public are absolute f***ing retards.

Does not one of you feel an ounce of shame/self-loathing when you buy this crap?

Oh and by the way kissJLSkissFANkiss-co writing on a song(they didn't write a scratch themselves)=sitting on your talentless ass watching someone else do some work.

You don't think Take That have done some great songs then? Because I do, even if my normal genre of music is very far removed from it.

[XJLSXFANX]

[quote=major winters;35862687]Good boyband is an oxymoron.

The xfactor is a shower of pi**. It produces pitiful acts whose only claim to fame is the quick buck they make for simon cowell before spending a meaningless life emptying bins/working in tesco...

It wouldn't bother me that much if the cycle stopped at some point. But no, the british public continue to buy this overhyped tripe straight off the conveyor belt. Simon cowell is a f***ing genius-he knows that most of the public are absolute f***ing retards.

Does not one of you feel an ounce of shame/self-loathing when you buy this crap?

Oh and by the way kissJLSkissFANkiss-co writing on a song(they didn't write a scratch themselves)=sitting on your talentless ass watching someone else do some work.[/QUOTE]

there not co-writers Oritse is a songwriter as well as singer.
He's been writing songs since his teens. they have full written 9 out of the 14 songs.

[major winters]

there not co-writers Oritse is a songwriter as well as singer.
He's been writing songs since his teens. they have full written 9 out of the 14 songs.

Where are you getting your information from?

[XJLSXFANX]

Originally Posted by major winters

Where are you getting your information from?

Their book and an interview they've done.

[major winters]

Not the most reliable of sources are they? We will probably have to wait until their album is released...I bet you they are co-writers.

[kutox]

Originally Posted by XJLSXFANX

they've been around before the x factor and have many fans from the UFO days

if they weren't on x factor do you think they would be getting the success they are now? in other words - do you think they would be getting their (2) songs played on every commercial radio station every hour of every day, not forgetting that they are constantly appearing on almost every single radio show or tv chat show, or indeed any show in which music is a feature?

not a chance.

[JoJo2]

Originally Posted by XJLSXFANX

Their book and an interview they've done.

What? PLEASE don't tell me they've got a book out already?

Did they write this book themselves by any chance, or even co-write it?

[XJLSXFANX]

Originally Posted by kutox

if they weren't on x factor do you think they would be getting the success they are now? in other words - do you think they would be getting their (2) songs played on every commercial radio station every hour of every day, not forgetting that they are constantly appearing on almost every single radio show or tv chat show, or indeed any show in which music is a feature?

not a chance.

The x factor doesnt gurantee you success? Leon Jackson, Steve Brookstein. They have to have something about them to be succesfull obviously the x factor helped, but its not all down to it. They could of easily flopped back in January when they didnt have a record deal and they could of given up, but they didnt. Yeh obviously they've had it easier than other artists but its not been as easy as everyone's making it out to be.

[kutox]

Originally Posted by major winters

Not the most reliable of sources are they? We will probably have to wait until their album is released...I bet you they are co-writers.

yeah, and i bet they only write lines like 'baby i love you, you're the only one for me' etc.

Originally Posted by XJLSXFANX

The x factor doesnt gurantee you success? Leon Jackson, Steve Brookstein. They have to have something about them to be succesfull obviously the x factor helped, but its not all down to it. They could of easily flopped back in January when they didnt have a record deal and they could of given up, but they didnt. Yeh obviously they've had it easier than other artists but its not been as easy as everyone's making it out to be.

that's because the record company have been clever, and manufactured them into a boyband aimed at 10-year-old girls who go hysterical whenever they see them, and think that everything they do is 'amazing'. like i said earlier in my first post in this thread - the easiest possible route to success.

[XJLSXFANX]

Originally Posted by kutox

yeah, and i bet they only write lines like 'baby i love you, you're the only one for me' etc.

Why be so anti them?

[superstar111]

Originally Posted by kutox

spot on there. as i said in another thread, JLS are a prime example of a packaged, manufactured boyband aimed at 10-year-olds. they got their fame from x factor, they sing (or mime) other people's songs and are being given the most ludicrous amount of airplay and promotion - hence why Beat Again (an average cheesy song in my opinion) got to no.1. their new (even more cheesy) song will probably go the same way for the same reasons.

by having an image that targets young girls - i.e. the songs, lyrics (along the lines of 'baby i love you, i can't live without you') and the dancing - they've taken the easiest route to commercial success possible. they could sing anything and their army of hysterical 10-year-old female fans would still be saying 'OMG JLS ARE AMAZING OMG OMG!!!' i'd love some of their fans to tell me exactly why that is. i mean, Beat Again was an ok song, but why do those people think they are so 'amazing' and 'brillliant' just because of one or two songs which they mime to a lot of the time because of their silly dancing?

i'm not saying i hate bands who don't write their own material, but JLS have had it so easy it's unreal.

You answered your own question. They think they are amazing and brilliant because the material they have brought out (and sung on X Factor) has been good in their opinion.

Not difficult really.

[pear_juice]

I dont see why everyone is so annoyed they have got famous of the back of x factor

Leona has, don't see you complaining about how she wouldn't be huge in the US if she wasn't on x factor

JLS arn't even on Simon's label, so they have done this really, without the help of Simon and X Factor. I agree they probably dont write all of their material, but they are atleast talented and can sing! and arn't manufactured.

And when I said boyband, I ment fairly young, not Take That who are now in their 30s

[-Jade"]

It's a shame that people insist the fans they have only like them because of their appearance. I'm not denying that some people will be that way, but I dislike being generalised like that. I could easily go through every artist that I don't like & say that people only like them for certain reasons other than their talent; but it's immature. People need to accept that others will not always share their opinion.

The boys did not have everything handed to them after going on X Factor - they thought that was it, Oritsé was going to apply for a job as a postman; then they got signed. You can't say that the boys haven't worked hard - they've done a club tour, X Factor tour, Lemar's tour, a radio tour and book signings. That doesn't look like people who expect success without hard work to me.

As for the songwriting, there's no way of knowing whether JLS wrote them or co-wrote them at the moment, but as another poster has said, Oritsé has been songwriting since his teens, so it's not surprising if they did. They aren't manufactured either - Oritsé met Marvin through a friend; Marvin knew Aston from various auditions; then Oritsé met JB through a vocal coach he was working with. They got together more or less by chance.

Another thing that I really like about them is that they understand that without their fans, their hard work wouldn't have paid off anyway - their newest blog on the offical website is from Marvin thanking everyone who supports them & saying how much they appreciate it. They treat their fans very well, and they're talented boys - why shouldn't people like them?

[kutox]

ok ok, maybe i'm being a bit harsh - i admit... but i just hate x factor with a massive passion and i believe it is a disgrace to music!

[odie30]

my 10 year old really wants to see them live but i told her that until they have more singles or she keeps likeing them i refuse to pay £30 a ticket. its so wrong to annoce a tour after one single

[JoJo2]

Originally Posted by kutox

ok ok, maybe i'm being a bit harsh - i admit... but i just hate x factor with a massive passion and i believe it is a disgrace to music!

I don't think you're being harsh at all! Anyone who can't see that they are manufactured sh*t made to attract flies, really can't see the wood for the trees.

X-Factor is just a public extension to what has been going on in the music business for years now anyway. Rather than privately auditioning a bunch of fame seeking tw*ts who've ''got the image'' as most record labels do when starting their next 'project', Simon brings it to the public stage to let the public pick their next manufactured piece of shite. All quite simple really and he has the reassurance that everyone who votes for it somehow feels like they are ''part of their journey'' therefore giving them a vested interest in the atist and securing mammoth sales for Simon. Then within about 6-8 months the public usually forgets about them and hence the cycle starts again for the next piece of manufactured SH*T..

[kutox]

Originally Posted by JoJo2

I don't think you're being harsh at all! Anyone who can't see that they are manufactured sh*t made to attract flies, really can't see the wood for the trees.

X-Factor is just a public extension to what has been going on in the music business for years now anyway. Rather than privately auditioning a bunch of fame seeking tw*ts who've ''got the image'' as most record labels do when starting their next 'project', Simon brings it to the public stage to let the public pick their next manufactured piece of shite. All quite simple really and he has the reassurance that everyone who votes for it somehow feels like they are ''part of their journey'' therefore giving them a vested interest in the atist and securing mammoth sales for Simon. Then within about 6-8 months the public usually forgets about them and hence the cycle starts again for the next piece of manufactured SH*T..

yep, it's a shame that most of the show's viewers know nothing about music, and so they believe it when Cowell says it's a major talent competition