[Deschanel]

Genoa City fans who were holding out hope that Victor Newman will stay should start prepping their goodbyes now: Eric Braeden told EW.com exclusively today that “it’s the end of the road” and he’s “pulled the plug” on any more talks to stay on The Young and the Restless. [...] Braeden told EW that he has since made a counter offer (he offered to take a “substantial” pay cut on the top of a voluntary 10% reduction he took two years ago) but it apparently wasn’t enough for Sony. Braeden’s last appearance on the soap will air Nov. 2.

Source: Exclusive: Eric Braeden says it's 'end of road' in negotiation with 'Young and the Restless'

So it appears that Sony really are fools. Whether you love or hate Victor Newman, this will definitely be a blow to Y&R. What a terrible way to do business, Sony!

[JamieLee]

I have to agree with you 100% there - it will be a devastating blow for the show. When they killed Colleen, the fans in the US kicked off big-time, I dread to think how this will be taken...

To be honest with you, I really can't see the show without Victor...

[donovan gracie]

was this colleen still the same broad from home and away or was she recast yet again

[babygerle]

Originally Posted by Deschanel

Source: Exclusive: Eric Braeden says it's 'end of road' in negotiation with 'Young and the Restless'

So it appears that Sony really are fools. Whether you love or hate Victor Newman, this will definitely be a blow to Y&R. What a terrible way to do business, Sony!

OMG! I am so heartbroken. Victor was the best and with him gone, the show will go on but will not be the same again.

[JamieLee]

Originally Posted by donovan gracie

was this colleen still the same broad from home and away or was she recast yet again

Yeah, it was still Tammin Sursok (Dani - Home and Away) - guess they just decided that it'd be easier to kill her off than find another person to play Collen

[Deschanel]

Originally Posted by JamieLee

I have to agree with you 100% there - it will be a devastating blow for the show.

To be honest with you, I really can't see the show without Victor...

Originally Posted by babygerle

OMG! I am so heartbroken. Victor was the best and with him gone, the show will go on but will not be the same again.

The show is structured around Victor, so it'll definitely suffer when he's gone. They are bringing in a new character to replace Victor, called Trent, so that will either work, or sink badly. Plus, they're repositioning Victor's son, Adam, to take his place. If you're not up with US pace, I won't spoil you, but will say that he's the worst character ever! Started out with so much potential, only to be ruined beyond belief.

What gets me (bar Sony's treatment) is that they've had this all planned out for months - it's like they secretly knew EB wouldn't take no BS, so wrote Victor into a corner, and hired a replacement.

Originally Posted by JamieLee

Yeah, it was still Tammin Sursok (Dani - Home and Away) - guess they just decided that it'd be easier to kill her off than find another person to play Collen

Colleen was an unnecessary death. Tammin was too busy with other projects, so TPTB decided to kill her off, instead of recasting her (either with someone new, or a previous actor). She's a legacy character, and all that potential as Victoria's rival, and her chemistry with JT, are gone.

[Seamus2008]

Originally Posted by Deschanel

The show is structured around Victor, so it'll definitely suffer when he's gone. They are bringing in a new character to replace Victor, called Trent, so that will either work, or sink badly. Plus, they're repositioning Victor's son, Adam, to take his place. If you're not up with US pace, I won't spoil you, but will say that he's the worst character ever! Started out with so much potential, only to be ruined beyond belief.

What gets me (bar Sony's treatment) is that they've had this all planned out for months - it's like they secretly knew EB wouldn't take no BS, so wrote Victor into a corner, and hired a replacement.

Isn't Victor's 'replacement' called Tucker?
Anyway, I completely agree with you. Victor has a very important place in the show, and without him there'll be a huge void that just won't be filled. Eric Braeden's Victor is a legend and you can't just write out a character like him! I'm sickened of EB's treatment. He certainly doesn't deserve that after all the years he's spent, devoted to the show.
And you could see that they were heading to Victor's exit... (Almost) Everything bad happening was his fault.
Concerning Adam, I think you've got a point. He had a great potential but he seems to go from bad to worse everytime he appears... He could be a good villain but that's just not working, too many inconsistencies to my liking. I don't blame the actors, I think Chris Engen left at the right time, and I like Michael Muhney but I'm sad about what they're doing to the character. And after the recent

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baby-switch (which was absolutely unbelievable), I dread to think what they're going to come up with for him... I mean, Ashley and Sharon both go on labour at the SAME time, no-one in the 'hospital', Ashley leaves without seeing a psychiatrist... Sorry but this has to be one of the worst storylines I've ever seen! And three months ago I logged onto a website which predicted that this was gonna happen but I said to myself "Honestly, if they do this the show is ruined!"

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And now Victor leaves... Another blow for Y&R!

Originally Posted by Deschanel

Colleen was an unnecessary death. Tammin was too busy with other projects, so TPTB decided to kill her off, instead of recasting her (either with someone new, or a previous actor). She's a legacy character, and all that potential as Victoria's rival, and her chemistry with JT, are gone.

Once again, I have to agree with you. I failed to see the point of killing Colleen off. I loved the character when played by Lyndsy Fonseca and I've always hoped that she would come back... I didn't like it when Adrianne Leon played her, she was mean and devious. Tammin Sursock gave her a breath of fresh air... She was more mature, a bit older. But I can't help thinking they could have done something else instead of killing Colleen off. Lyndsy & Thad were the real Colleen & J.T. to my mind.
Anyway, after killing Brad off earlier this year I thought they wouldn't do anything like this for a long time... I was so wrong. 2009 has been a very difficult year for Y&R, no-one can say otherwise.
To be honest, now I'm definitely not looking forward to seeing what's coming up in the forthcoming months...

[JamieLee]

I remember reading a while ago when EB's contract negotations first began that they were casting for a someone who was described as Victor down to a t, but was for an entirely different character - which leads me to think that they knew they were backing EB towards the door.

In my opinion they've been making really poor decisions as of late - killing Colleen off, getting rid of EB, hell - I'm still trying to deal with them not wanting VR back as Dru! and now the current storylines with Adam are just too much...

[Deschanel]

Originally Posted by Seamus2008

Isn't Victor's 'replacement' called Tucker?

Yes he is. No idea why I called him Trent. LOL!

Everything bad happening was his fault.

He was only really responsible for unleashing Patty/Mary Jane on GC, and not really to blame for all of her bad deeds, as she needs to be responsible for those herself.

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I really hate how they pinned Ashley's gaslighting on Patty, which in turn has been pushed onto Victor, and Adam gets away with everything. I also hate how Ashley goes from being a basket case, to perfectly sane from scene to scene. Like, when she was at the hospital waiting for news on Colleen/Victor, moments after nearly cracking up with Tracey and Billy.

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Concerning Adam, I think you've got a point. He had a great potential but he seems to go from bad to worse everytime he appears... He could be a good villain but that's just not working, too many inconsistencies to my liking. I don't blame the actors, I think Chris Engen left at the right time, and I like Michael Muhney but I'm sad about what they're doing to the character.

I hate Adam. I think he's a vile character who has done way too many evil things to be taken seriously. He's very one-note. I agree, Chris Engen did escape at the right time, which I believe had more to do with Adam's decent into Evil, than all the homophobic backlash that he received. If characters like Patty and Sheila have to leave after their psycho stints, then so should Adam, 'cause he's no different to them. At the start, Adam had a good rivalry with Nick & Victoria, while he tried to gain Victor's approval. But some where, this all changed, and they made him into an unrelatable, irredeemable villain, who lost his humanity.

Re: Lindsey Fonseca - she was before my time. But I like JT and the potential there was with Colleen. They should have brought back LF.

It's interesting when Tracey returned (for me she was basically a new character, as I had never saw her before), how much I took to her. I felt connected to her straight away, and that his rare for a character who one has never seen before. Tracey's awesome. It puzzles me why they don't bring her back full time.

2009 has been a very difficult year for Y&R, no-one can say otherwise.

Originally Posted by JamieLee

In my opinion they've been making really poor decisions as of late - killing Colleen off, getting rid of EB, hell - I'm still trying to deal with them not wanting VR back as Dru! and now the current storylines with Adam are just too much...

2009 has been one bad decision after another. It seems they just write for characters they like, instead of the whole cast. We've had Brad's death, the Silver Chipmunk crap, all of Adam's evil plots, Devon & Tyra, Philip's messy return which ruined history, Jill's isolation, Colleen's death, Victor's exit, the treatment of Kristoff St. John and all the minority characters, the destruction of Deacon's character, as well as the raft of newbies, like Ryder. Where will it all end?

Re: Dru - what they should do is realize that Y&R is a business, and that bringing VR back would make good business sense. They need to talk to those 3 actors, and get everyone to agree to get along for the shake of the show, or leave, if they can't handle VR. I get that she's a big personality, which may rub some people up the wrong way, but she shouldn't be blacklisted just because some actors don't get on with her.

Y&R used to stand for something; it was the leader of the pack; the soap you could recommend when people would call US soaps unrealistic crap, because it used to tell good drama, and showcase a variety of culturally diverse characters, with good writing and acting to match. Now it's no better than all the others. *sigh*

[Deschanel]

UPDATE! Victor's staying. Now all we need is better writing for Victor... no, make that the entire canvas.

Exclusive: Braeden's Back on 'Young & Restless' (Whew)

There's peace in Genoa City: Eric Braeden, the longtime star of CBS' top-rated "The Young and the Restless," has agreed to return to the show.

Braeden opted to leave a few weeks ago after producer Sony Pictures Television asked all cast and crew to take major pay cuts. In the actor's case, that mean a reduction from around $1.5 million per year to around $1 million.

But now a person familiar with the matter says Braeden has accepted Sony's pay cut and will return to the series. The timing of his return is still being worked out.

Braeden's last episode was to have been Nov. 2. News of his return comes days after TheWrap reported that Sony had been considering hiring a well-known actor to fill the gap left by Braeden's departure.

UPDATE 7:40 PM CDT: A spokesman for Braeden confirmed to TheWrap that the actor has agreed to return to the show.

[dd68]

I would be grateful if someone could PM me to let me know how to watch Y&R at US pace, thanks so much.

[kreed82]

Originally Posted by dd68

I would be grateful if someone could PM me to let me know how to watch Y&R at US pace, thanks so much.

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