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2.00 Top of the Pops
3.00 The Queen
3.10 The Incredibles
5.00 Shrek 3
6.30 News
6.35 Strictly Come Dancing
7.30 Doctor Who
8.30 EastEnders
9.30 The Royle Family

It is possible to fit The Incredibles and Shrek 3 in, just.

Obviously you can split EastEnders up and move it all around, its just an example of how it can pretty much fit together. I don't think it would be a travesty if Strictly were reduced by 5 minutes. Plus, these films sometimes lose 4-5 minutes when they make it onto TV without those hideously long credits on the end.

• Admin Edit: This thread is a continuation of Ratings Thread (Part 4)

[jamesisace]

Is there anyway EE could be an hour

[James J]

Primetime show for Jeremy? Oh dear.

I've heard whisperings ITV is switching to a News hour at 6pm daily, incorporating national and regional news. They have a new set and everything

And it would mean both the 6 and 10 o'clock bulletins are head to head with the BBC

[Dancc]

Originally Posted by James J

Primetime show for Jeremy? Oh dear.

I've heard whisperings ITV is switching to a News hour at 6pm daily, incorporating national and regional news. They have a new set and everything

And it would mean both the 6 and 10 o'clock bulletins are head to head with the BBC

Great news for BBC Two, Ch4 and Five. If ITV continue to reduce choice in this way, the alternatives can only grow bigger.

They'd do well to put Anglia Tonight (along with the various other 'local' 6pm bullies) out of their misery though. The ruthless cutbacks have taken their toll and the programme is a shadow of its former self. On Friday's edition of Anglia Tonight the last 5 minutes or so were basically an extended trailer for The X Factor, the local connection being one or two of the acts on it that happened to be from the Anglia region.

The new presenters are charmless, and stories from Northants/Peterborough are few and far between since they merged the east and west of the region.

I'm not saying do away with local news altogether, but the half hour programme is a waste. It's simply not serving much of a purpose now, with most of the content lacking relevance or substance. Just do a 5 minute summary or something as part of the national bulletin (like they do on the 10pm) and be done with it.

[Only_You]

Just watched Points of View and it has just been said that the last episode of Life will be shown on the 14th December, meaning the series won’t be split into two as some of us thought.

[GeorgeS]

well I've been away for the last 8 days in a place with no tv or internet. just fot back and I see that (nazi hour apart) ITV has been trouncing the BBC all week. Maybe Nick griffin can do SCD next year?

[Only_You]

I think ITV1 should try Harry Hill's TV Burps again for Christmas Day, I know the last outing on Christmas Day did not go down too well (3m ish) but it's alot bigger now, plus in 2007 it was up against EastEnders!

If I was ITV, I'd put Harry Hill against the first half of the Strictly special, It does well against it on a normal saturday, so no reason why it should not be ok on Christmas Day.

[RobbieSykes123]

Originally Posted by GeorgeS

well I've been away for the last 8 days in a place with no tv or internet. just fot back and I see that (nazi hour apart) ITV has been trouncing the BBC all week. Maybe Nick griffin can do SCD next year?

I think that joke was done on Friday morning...

Do you know when ITV's inevitable "Nazi Hour" copycat format starts?

"Trouncing" to me implies something like getting a 5% share whilst the other side gets 50% - like Piers's Life Stories repeat did on Thursday night. Not sure there were many examples of this the other way round this week - unless you can enlighten us otherwise.

[RobbieSykes123]

Originally Posted by Only_You

I think ITV1 should try Harry Hill's TV Burps again for Christmas Day, I know the last outing on Christmas Day did not go down too well (3m ish) but it's alot bigger now, plus in 2007 it was up against EastEnders!

If I was ITV, I'd put Harry Hill against the first half of the Strictly special, It does well against it on a normal saturday, so no reason why it should not be ok on Christmas Day.

The SCD special is the only Xmas Day slot that ITV1 would dare risk Corrie against. So TV Burp will probably be in its usual Saturday (Boxing Day) slot.

[GeorgeS]

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

I think that joke was done on Friday morning...

Do you know when ITV's inevitable "Nazi Hour" copycat format starts?

"Trouncing" to me implies something like getting a 5% share whilst the other side gets 50% - like Piers's Life Stories repeat did on Thursday night. Not sure there were many examples of this the other way round this week - unless you can enlighten us otherwise.

well i didn't get a chance to read all your wonderful posts yet I had a quick glance and ITV seemed to win Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday at 9, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday (Benidorm beat the Beeb - how is your house hunting going btw Robbie

[sstripling]

Originally Posted by James J

I've heard whisperings ITV is switching to a News hour at 6pm daily, incorporating national and regional news. They have a new set and everything

And it would mean both the 6 and 10 o'clock bulletins are head to head with the BBC

I've heard this too & i know they have a new set ect ( see other thread) but i don't think this is true. Firstly , the press realease about the revamp didn't mention it - surely it would have said " a new news hour! ect.

Secondly, why would they make them both head to head , makes no sense !!

I much prefer the local news going into national news, rather than what the BBC do !!

[GeorgeS]

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

The SCD special is the only Xmas Day slot that ITV1 would dare risk Corrie against. So TV Burp will probably be in its usual Saturday (Boxing Day) slot.

I thought Christmas Day was on May 30th this year. December 25th ratings will be puny by comparison despite the captive audience, crap weather, demetented relatives to be passified, etc

[RobbieSykes123]

Originally Posted by GeorgeS

I thought Christmas Day was on May 30th this year. December 25th ratings will be puny by comparison despite the captive audience, crap weather, demetented relatives to be passified, etc

Puny? No, that will be ITV1's share on Christmas Day - in complete contrast to how well BBC1 held up on May 30th.

[rzt]

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

Puny? No, that will be ITV1's share on Christmas Day - in complete contrast to how well BBC1 held up on May 30th.

ITV1 will easily lose out to BBC1 on Christmas Day, but I doubt its primetime share will fall as low as 10.5% which happened to BBC1 on May 30th!

[RobbieSykes123]

Originally Posted by rzt

ITV1 will easily lose out to BBC1 on Christmas Day, but I doubt its primetime share will fall as low as 10.5% which happened to BBC1 on May 30th!

The clue was in the "Day" bit - as opposed to a narrow 3 hour window...

[RobbieSykes123]

Another thing. This time last year, when the SCD Sunday results hour was getting 10m viewers, the usual suspects were venting their spleen at the Beeb for their ridiculous padding out of their flagship show to a second day of the weekend, and a full hour when the dance off and results took up barely 10-15 mins.

Now that X Factor has done the exact same thing, and bloated their results show to a totally unnecessary hour (or 75 mins the other week), they seem to have shut up.

Why is that?

[sstripling]

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

Another thing. This time last year, when the SCD Sunday results hour was getting 10m viewers, the usual suspects were venting their spleen at the Beeb for their ridiculous padding out of their flagship show to a second day of the weekend, and a full hour when the dance off and results took up barely 10-15 mins.

Now that X Factor has done the exact same thing, and bloated their results show to a totally unnecessary hour (or 75 mins the other week), they seem to have shut up.

Why is that?

mabye they prefer X Factor !! oh and the fact an 80 year old man ( although a ledgend) makes really "good" jokes every 2 minutes!!

[GeorgeS]

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

Another thing. This time last year, when the SCD Sunday results hour was getting 10m viewers, the usual suspects were venting their spleen at the Beeb for their ridiculous padding out of their flagship show to a second day of the weekend, and a full hour when the dance off and results took up barely 10-15 mins.

Now that X Factor has done the exact same thing, and bloated their results show to a totally unnecessary hour (or 75 mins the other week), they seem to have shut up.

Why is that?

Perhaps because one is allegedly a publicly funded not for profit company and the other is a commercial entity? Although watching Question Time this morning on BBC World I cant really believe the BBC can stoop much lower than that farce of a show to be honest..........

[rzt]

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

The clue was in the "Day" bit - as opposed to a narrow 3 hour window...

Fair enough. But BBC1's All Day share was 13.8% on 30th May. ITV's share on Christmas Day will be around that mark, if not more.

ITV1 had a 16.9% All Day share for Christmas Day 2008: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...atings-victory

So it won't be "in complete contrast to how well BBC1 held up on May 30th" which you've claimed. It'll probably be better.

[RobbieSykes123]

Originally Posted by rzt

Fair enough. But BBC1's All Day share was 13.8% on 30th May. ITV's share on Christmas Day will be around that mark, if not more.

I can't find the exact data for Christmas Day 2008's all day share, but between 06:00 in the morning to 24:00 midnight ITV averaged roughly 14.4%.

So it won't be "in complete contrast to how well BBC1 held up on May 30th" which you've claimed.

If BBC1 only managed 14% for the day on 30th May, then no. My vague recollection was that it held out at over the 20% mark all-day, but if you've tracked down the figures, then fair enough.

[D.M.N.]

Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123

If BBC1 only managed 14% for the day on 30th May, then no. My vague recollection was that it held out at over the 20% mark all-day, but if you've tracked down the figures, then fair enough.

If you remember, The FA Cup final was also on BGT final day, which meant BBC didn't get much of a look in.

[Pizzatheaction]

From Chris1964 on the closed Ratings Thread:

Whatever opinions people have of Ant and Dec, I still reckon their best years are yet to come. The fast paced Takeaway style cannot go on forever and I reckon they will eventually move to sketch based shows with big guests harking back to Morecambe and Wise.

I agree. As I've said before, the decisions made by Ant and Dec in the next few years are crucial to deciding their long-term futures on television. Make the right decisions and they could be at the top of the TV game for another 30 or 35 years. Make the wrong decisions and they'll slide into obscurity by the time they're 40.

I think Ant and Dec should use their rumoured new ITV contract to experiment with taking their careers to the next level. I think it's fine for them to stick with the studio-based weekend entertainment shows for now, but they need to think about moving on from I'm a Celebrity.... I feel they're a bit too mature for that particular show now, and they don't look as if their hearts are in it anymore when they're trying to look excited about saying things like "And now it's time for wor (insert celebrity's name here) to teek a shooer of boogs (shower of bugs)."

I'm a Celebrity... will die a death at some point in the next few years, and there's a risk the guys' careers could die with it, if they don't make a break for it soon.

Your suggestion of sketch-based shows is an excellent one, and despite the Likely Lads fiasco, I think they should have another go at sitcom. Not necessarily together, though. Perhaps apart, the way The Two Ronnies did, whilst still maintaining the double act elsewhere on TV.

It's fine for ITV to try to squeeze another two or three years out of I'm a Celebrity..., but I don't think Ant and Dec should hang around for the final years. Ant and Dec have got to where they are now by moving on at the right times, and I think they've reached another pivotal moment.

Originally Posted by James J

I've heard whisperings ITV is switching to a News hour at 6pm daily, incorporating national and regional news. They have a new set and everything

They should take a step back from that. 60 Minutes (1983/4) was a disaster for BBC1.

[D.M.N.]

Don't know if this occurred in previous weeks, but just now in the break of TV Burp - instead of having adverts, they are having what appears to be a '3-minute plug' for The X Factor, quick bit with Dermot and now they are going through all 12 performances.

Interesting technique.... anyone think the ratings will be higher tonight because of the clock change - does clock change have any effect on ratings?

[rzt]

Originally Posted by D.M.N.

anyone think the ratings will be higher tonight because of the clock change - does clock change have any effect on ratings?

The clock change didn't have any real immediate effect on 8pm total audiences last year:

Sun- 26.0m, Mon- 24.2m, Tue- 23.2m, Wed- 23.0m, Thu- 22.7m, Fri- 22.3m
Sun- 26.2m, Mon- 24.5m, Tue- 23.1m, Wed- 23.8m, Thu- 23.8m, Fri- 21.8m

The top line is the week before the clocks changed, the second after clocks were put back (haven't included Saturdays due to difficulty finding total audiences for 8-9pm).

The only day to see a significant rise was Thursday, but I think a special hour long EastEnders might've contributed a lot to that rise.

[Andy23]

I doubt it will have any effect, sun now sets at 5pm, instead of 6pm last week. Both are well before prime time.