[sepmix]

Saturday the 7th of November, at 4pm. So not even on Primetime, plus they're cutting it off halfway through for the news, well played again ITV! ^_^

[Dizagaox]

WTF??

The film is one of the most popular films of all time, it deserves the best slot on ITV1. Not to mention it's 12A, they'll broadcast the daytime-safe version which hacks most of the best bits to pieces. There's over 10 minutes cut out.

[f_196]

Expect no good treatment from ITV regarding any film. You might as well watch the DVD - or rent it if you don't own it.

[Dizagaox]

I didn't watch Ep I yesterday, so can I ask:

- was it cropped to 16:9?
- was the HD feed good?

I never watch movies on TV unless its on BBC or Sky Movies. The ads piss me off, as well as the cutting of scenes.

[f_196]

Originally Posted by Dizagaox

I didn't watch Ep I yesterday, so can I ask:

- was it cropped to 16:9?
- was the HD feed good?

I never watch movies on TV unless its on BBC or Sky Movies. The ads piss me off, as well as the cutting of scenes.

- Yes

- Dire

Very much as simple as that.

[Dizagaox]

Kudos to ITV for airing it in the correct order tho. It bugs me when Sky Movies airs it IV, V, VI, I, II and III, because the films actually work really well chronologically. The dramatic irony of knowing about Darth Vader is actually refreshing for Hollywood, and makes the reveal scene much more powerful, because it adds to Vader's characterisation.

Plus the prequels are still the most popular of the trilogies, despite most people disagreeing, so it's clever of ITV to start with them and get those kids tuned it. They're more likely to stick around.

[CheeseyDude1337]

Originally Posted by Dizagaox

Kudos to ITV for airing it in the correct order tho. It bugs me when Sky Movies airs it IV, V, VI, I, II and III, because the films actually work really well chronologically. The dramatic irony of knowing about Darth Vader is actually refreshing for Hollywood, and makes the reveal scene much more powerful, because it adds to Vader's characterisation.

Plus the prequels are still the most popular of the trilogies, despite most people disagreeing, so it's clever of ITV to start with them and get those kids tuned it. They're more likely to stick around.

THE PREQUELS ARE BETTER?! GET A LIFE!

The originals were way better, they have better plots and stuff, no Jar Jar Binks. No Gungans. Less Jedi, more powerful plots. More Evil. Not Some kid with a funny voice moaning to his mum about pod-racing. They also murdered R2D2 and C3PO By showing the fact R2 was slightly a slave droid and adding Darth Vader making C3P0. It ends up with to many coincidences and plot holes.

• Owen or Beru Both don't Remember R2D2 or C3PO from EP2 in EP4
• Darth Vader Sees C3PO in EP5 (The Scene at the Table in bespin when han shoots him then He uses the force and Hans Gun flys at him then they turn around and see Boba and Stormtroopers)
• Jango Fett being Bobas Father - Boba ends up wanting to kill all jedi, and goes off working for a member of the old council (Anakin worked there for a few days but it still counts!)
• They Changed the Color of Slave I and The Mandalore Armour (The armour was passed down through mandalorian leaders)

Also, Why didn't they keep Darth Maul, and made him so he stood a chance against Yoda (and Anakin killed him a week after order 66, because Darth Maul was on holiday to China and Didn't know about order 66) and Use Nute Gunray (or a better Nemoidian Senator for his job; Killed him off in AOTC (Coleman Trebor, the guy who looks like a pterodactyl man who gets shot by Jango in AOTC could have done this, by jumping and chopping his head off at the same time. you can do it in Force unleashed and stuff)

Anyway The Prequels could have been way better. If They had been written in the 80s with the Original Trilogy, they probably would!

[Dizagaox]

Originally Posted by f_196

- Yes

- Dire

Very much as simple as that.

Cheers, I won't be making an effort to watch the film on TV, despite wanting to support SW.

My ultimate nightmare would be ITV snatch the broadcast rights to the upcoming live-action TV series, which will most likely be mastered in 2.35:1 and HD.

It's either Sky (who are the only broadcasters in the world to air The Clone Wars properly, uncropped), or nobody.

[f_196]

Originally Posted by Dizagaox

My ultimate nightmare would be ITV snatch the broadcast rights to the upcoming live-action TV series, which will most likely be mastered in 2.35:1 and HD.

If it went FTA first, or eventually, i think only Channel 4 would know how to treat it properly. They treat film aspect ratios with respect. The BBC might also.

[Tassium]

Because of the editing/interuptions/frequent adverts only a low-end audience will be watching these films, that seems to be what ITV is all about now.

Allthough BBC seem to be going for a minority social class too in the type of films they pick for broadcast, so in practice although there are no interuptions the BBCs films are rarely worth watching.

The failure of the historically dominant broadcasters is driving more and more people to other (pay) TV companies, that's bad news for both BBC and ITV.

[sepmix]

Sent ITV an email about it, I'll let you know the reply.

[jzee]

Originally Posted by f_196

- Yes

- Dire

Very much as simple as that.

All the HD transfers of Episode 1 are poor so that's nothing to do with ITV- the others are much better although they are cropped to 16:9 as all ITV movies are.

[Dizagaox]

Originally Posted by CheeseyDude1337

THE PREQUELS ARE BETTER?! GET A LIFE!

Jump the gun much?

I never said they were better, I said they were more popular, which they are.

[Indo]

Originally Posted by Dizagaox

Jump the gun much?

I never said they were better, I said they were more popular, which they are.

No they are not. Star Wars was the highest grossing film of all time up to when ET was released.

[-GONZO-]

Originally Posted by CheeseyDude1337

• Owen or Beru Both don't Remember R2D2 or C3PO from EP2 in EP4
• Darth Vader Sees C3PO in EP5 (The Scene at the Table in bespin when han shoots him then He uses the force and Hans Gun flys at him then they turn around and see Boba and Stormtroopers)

Probably because most of them look the same.
All the C3PO type models were identical apart from the voice and some were a silver colour.
There are also other R2 units that look identical to R2D2 also.
Not only that there was a gap of around 20 years since Owen, Beru or Anakin/Vader last saw R2D2 or C3P0.

Now ive always wondered myself after seeing the prequals why Obi Wan didnt remember R2D2 in Ep IV or was he just trying not to let onto luke that he did in fact know R2D2.

[Martin_S]

Originally Posted by Tassium

The failure of the historically dominant broadcasters is driving more and more people to other (pay) TV companies, that's bad news for both BBC and ITV.

I don't care how crap they get, they will never drive me to pay tv. If it isn't free to air I don't watch it. Simple as that. If I have to end up watching nothing, so be it. I will sell my TV and watch stuff online instead. And I won't need a sodding TV licence either

[Dizagaox]

Originally Posted by Indo

No they are not. Star Wars was the highest grossing film of all time up to when ET was released.

Not even going to get into this. Google is your friend, there's an industry article somewhere which detailed how more people have seen Episode I to III than people who have seen Episode IV to VI.

It irked many older fans because it took inflation and the actual number of audiences into account, and still said the prequels were more popular.

Off the top of my head, it said approximately 66 million people went to see Episode III in cinemas, and another 30 million "first impressions" were made on home video. Only Episode I had a bigger first impression count.

In terms of popularity, the films rank:

1) Star Wars Episode I
2) Star Wars Episode III
3) Star Wars Episode IV
4) Star Wars Episode II
5) Star Wars Episode V
6) Star Wars Episode VI

The prequels are indefinitely more popular. Get over it.

[mikw]

Originally Posted by Tassium

The failure of the historically dominant broadcasters is driving more and more people to other (pay) TV companies, that's bad news for both BBC and ITV.

Although they get pay TV they don't seem to watch it in any great numbers.

Even in pay TV homes the terrestrial channels are the most popular.

[JAS84]

Sky 1 sometimes beats Five in the ratings maybe, but I don't think they've ever beat ITV1 or BBC 1 and 2, or even Channel 4. ITV2 has beaten BBC2 and C4 I think though, but that's on Freeview, Sky 1 isn't.

[Indo]

Originally Posted by Dizagaox

Not even going to get into this. Google is your friend, there's an industry article somewhere which detailed how more people have seen Episode I to III than people who have seen Episode IV to VI.

It irked many older fans because it took inflation and the actual number of audiences into account, and still said the prequels were more popular.

Off the top of my head, it said approximately 66 million people went to see Episode III in cinemas, and another 30 million "first impressions" were made on home video. Only Episode I had a bigger first impression count.

In terms of popularity, the films rank:

1) Star Wars Episode I
2) Star Wars Episode III
3) Star Wars Episode IV
4) Star Wars Episode II
5) Star Wars Episode V
6) Star Wars Episode VI

The prequels are indefinitely more popular. Get over it.

You need to back your statement up if you intend to make such a sweeping statement. Episode I was a high earner but the original was released 22 years before that. You can't say because a film made more money in 1999 than in 1977 it was more popular.

Highest grossing films worldwide after inflation


1. Gone With the Wind (1939)
2. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
3. Titanic (1997)
4. Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope (1977)
5. Jurassic Park (1993)
6. Bambi (1942)
7. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
8. Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone (2001)
9. Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999)
10. The Lion King (1994)

[wolf99000]

Originally Posted by JAS84

Sky 1 sometimes beats Five in the ratings maybe, but I don't think they've ever beat ITV1 or BBC 1 and 2, or even Channel 4. ITV2 has beaten BBC2 and C4 I think though, but that's on Freeview, Sky 1 isn't.

ratings mean nothing today because there are so many channels I wish networks would learn this fact as they cancel good show because of ratings without giving them a chance to grow

but fact is movies on terrestrial or to a lesser extent sky will never get massive ratings because there are so many ways to watch them before they hit tv now

[wolf99000]

Originally Posted by Indo

You need to back your statement up if you intend to make such a sweeping statement. Episode I was a high earner but the original was released 22 years before that. You can't say because a film made more money in 1999 than in 1977 it was more popular.

Highest grossing films worldwide after inflation


1. Gone With the Wind (1939)
2. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
3. Titanic (1997)
4. Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope (1977)
5. Jurassic Park (1993)
6. Bambi (1942)
7. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003)
8. Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone (2001)
9. Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (1999)
10. The Lion King (1994)

I dont think he means highest grossing I think he means how many people acctually saw the movie at the cinama when they were out

[craig-maclellan]

Originally Posted by Dizagaox

Not even going to get into this. Google is your friend, there's an industry article somewhere which detailed how more people have seen Episode I to III than people who have seen Episode IV to VI.

It irked many older fans because it took inflation and the actual number of audiences into account, and still said the prequels were more popular.

Off the top of my head, it said approximately 66 million people went to see Episode III in cinemas, and another 30 million "first impressions" were made on home video. Only Episode I had a bigger first impression count.

In terms of popularity, the films rank:

1) Star Wars Episode I
2) Star Wars Episode III
3) Star Wars Episode IV
4) Star Wars Episode II
5) Star Wars Episode V
6) Star Wars Episode VI

The prequels are indefinitely more popular. Get over it.

The number of people who see a film has nothing to do with how popular it is.

Today, people have more disposable income, so they are able to get to the cinema more than they would have in the 1970s. Also, there was a higher level of anticipation amongst the audiences for the prequels, as you have 30 years worth of people waiting for them, whereas the original films only had about two or three years between them.

Finally, try a straw poll of friends and family. If you mention the prequels to most people, they'll groan and say "Why did George Lucas have to mess with Star Wars?". Mention the original films and you'll see the eyes of 40 year old men light up like they're 10 years old again.

[David Wright]

Originally Posted by craig-maclellan

. If you mention the prequels to most people, they'll groan and say "Why did George Lucas have to mess with Star Wars?". Mention the original films and you'll see the eyes of 40 year old men light up like they're 10 years old again.

Maybe that says something about how sad most 40 somethings are?

I wonder what todays kids will say about the the Prequels when they are 40?

Anyway, does anybody know when ITV's contract to screen these movies runs out? ITV are clearly far to inept to show any of these films in appropriate slots and formats. I understand why LFL went with ITV in 2002, because they had done a good job of showing the original films in the 80's and early 90's, but ITV now is a VERY differant company to the ITV of the 80's, sadly. Hopefully when the contract expires LucasFilm will give the rights to the BBC or Channel 4 and the films will be able to be screened properly.

I'd fancy the BBC the best, because I reakon they'd probably show all the films over a the Christmas/New Year week. What an awesome week that'd be!

[Paddy C]

So, was it edited to hell? I'd safelty guess that as a yes!