Gary Glitter to be hung. (Merged) - TV Programmes

seacam · 29-10-2009, 02:13

Hello,

http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/200...annel-4-drama/

This can not be right, can not be.

What ever your feelings are about Gadd or pedophiles this goes against all decency.

This film won't be a reflection on what the public feels about pedophilia.

This is about a writer/director who hasn't really done anything since 2007 who is missing the limelight.

To contact Gadd and tell him we are going to hang you on TV in a film is simply not on.

Even if Gadd has accepted a fee or an understanding that he will sue this film cannot be allowed to aired.

If Coldstream wants to be controversial, why doesn't he make a film about showing the stringing up of real life Muslims in this country involved in terrorism.

The reason he doesn't is because he is gutless, a pedo' is such easy meat, like their victims.

What this writer is doing is no better then the Sun or was it the Mirror who started a campaign, " have you seen this person, if so hit him " ( Jeremy Beadle ).

I have always been of a mind people who scream, write shoot or kill pedos' further endanger children and such cry's or actions don't keep kids safe.

In this respect Coldstream will be no better then Gadd.

MrHoppy · 29-10-2009, 02:20

I imagine it's designed to provoke debate. If public debate isn't periodically provoked about things like the death penalty, there's a real risk that it could come back to the UK.

Generally Channel 4 are pretty cool, and i guess the message of the show will be that generally the death penalty, public hysteria and that is a bad thing, although i imagine the show will be somewhat openended and so people will see what they want to see to an extent.

I think it's good to have thought provoked like this. I suspect Gary might feel the same, although admittedly i know nothing about the guy other than what i see on the front pages of tabloid newspapers.

Radiomaniac · 29-10-2009, 02:44

I don't agree with hanging him.

He should be hung, drawn and quartered.

paddysu · 29-10-2009, 02:48

I think its a digusting idea for a program. If they're going to do one then doing it about a ficticious person what difference would it have to the debate cos the one about what should happen to Gary Glitter has happened many times over.
I'm pretty sure that to make any sort of film like that they'd have to have his permission and I really wouldn't have thought he'd have given it there again if he gets alot of money out of it as they'd be using real life clips maybe of news bits I think he had all his assets taken when he went in jail maybe its worth it so that if he gets out in the future he's got a bit of cash around. Not actually sure what his sentence is over there but he might be out in about 20 years time.
Being about him as well will automatically make me not watch it. If it was a drama, fiction then i might actually watch it but i don't like real crime drama and especially not ones that then play with the endings and something that no way is it ever going to happen in this country.

Ivor Biggun · 29-10-2009, 02:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by seacam

Hello,

http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/200...annel-4-drama/

This can not be right, can not be.

What ever your feelings are about Gadd or pedophiles this goes against all decency.

This film won't be a reflection on what the public feels about pedophilia.

This is about a writer/director who hasn't really done anything since 2007 who is missing the limelight.

To contact Gadd and tell him we are going to hang you on TV in a film is simply not on.

Even if Gadd has accepted a fee or an understanding that he will sue this film cannot be allowed to aired.

If Coldstream wants to be controversial, why doesn't he make a film about showing the stringing up of real life Muslims in this country involved in terrorism.

The reason he doesn't is because he is gutless, a pedo' is such easy meat, like their victims.

What this writer is doing is no better then the Sun or was it the Mirror who started a campaign, " have you seen this person, if so hit him " ( Jeremy Beadle ).

I have always been of a mind people who scream, write shoot or kill pedos' further endanger children and such cry's or actions don't keep kids safe.

In this respect Coldstream will be no better then Gadd.

Well put. My feelings entirely.

This will be a disgraceful piece of television and is a sad reflection as to how low some people will stoop in the name of entertainment. Gadd is being singled out because its cheap sensationalism and he is unlikely to publicly put much of a fight against it.

"It is an intelligent and thought-provoking examination of the issue." Channel 4's head of documentaries Hamish Mykura

I'm sorry Mr Mykura it's an easy target that anyone with any degree of intelligence and decency would wish to steer clear of. This is a backward step too many towards centuries past when public executions were an entertainment and will serve only to pander to those with a fascination for the macabre.

PrinceGaz · 29-10-2009, 02:52

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Originally Posted by Radiomaniac

I don't agree with hanging him.

He should be hung, drawn and quartered.

Whilst child-abuse is very very wrong, I could not condone such a horrific punishment as being hung, drawn and quartered.

Death penalty if proven beyond any doubt of being guilty (and the person also confessing to it and asking for it), I could go along with, however, as an alternative to life in jail. But never torture.

MrHoppy · 29-10-2009, 02:54

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Originally Posted by Radiomaniac

I don't agree with hanging him.

He should be hung, drawn and quartered.

What makes the program relevant is there are plenty of people who say what you did, but who are not joking!

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Originally Posted by paddysu

I think its a digusting idea for a program. If they're going to do one then doing it about a ficticious person what difference would it have to the debate

Well obviously on one hand it gives the show more exposure which will result in more ratings and advertising revenue, but from a non cynical standpoint, it makes the show interact more directly with people's existing emotions, thoughts and stuff. A lot of people call for the death penalty for hate figures, Glitter being a prime example.

Flamethrower100 · 29-10-2009, 03:02

The only problem I have with the death penalty. Is that, some people who don't really deserve it, will recieve it. If it is brought back.

We can say, oh so and so deserves it, and then some else doesn't.

I don't think Alien Warnos, deserved to die. She was clearly insane, and had been abused constantly throughout her life. But she did murder people.

So, it can't be one rule for hate figures and another for the rest of them.

Radiomaniac · 29-10-2009, 03:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrinceGaz

Whilst child-abuse is very very wrong, I could not condone such a horrific punishment as being hung, drawn and quartered.

Death penalty if proven beyond any doubt of being guilty (and the person also confessing to it and asking for it), I could go along with, however, as an alternative to life in jail. But never torture.

It was a joke!

darkjedimaster · 29-10-2009, 05:43

Admin Edit: removed.

Getting back to topic, this programme doesn't surprise me in the least, they know people will watch it even it means the human rights brigade getting straight onto ofcom once it has finished.

Putting it bluntly, CH4 don't give a f**k about content, as long as they get their ratings for that night. They have proven that more than once.

If they think peeps complained over animals being slaughtered in the F-word, that is nothing compared to the complaints they are going to get from this. But knowing CH4 they'll just get a slap on the wrist & that is it.

eliteheat · 29-10-2009, 05:59

This un-aired HIGNFY transcript has been out for ages, allegedly.

blueblade · 29-10-2009, 06:10

Gary Glitter to be symbolically hung.

Meanwhile Paul Gadd continues to walk the streets......

.....need one say more ?

yaruar · 29-10-2009, 06:22

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Originally Posted by eliteheat

This un-aired HIGNFY transcript has been out for ages, allegedly.

Which is almost definately a hoax, albeit quite a funny one.

grumpyscot · 29-10-2009, 07:16

I personally would not watch or listen to anything involving Gary Glitter, or get invovled in anything that might put money his way.

I would banish him to an uninhabited island somewhere and leave him to rot.

calamity · 29-10-2009, 07:45

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Originally Posted by Radiomaniac

I don't agree with hanging him.

He should be hung, drawn and quartered.

can I watch?

jesus of xanadu · 29-10-2009, 07:53

Well I wouldnie cry if he was found hung from the rafters.

stud u like · 29-10-2009, 12:19

Shirley Brahms' mother always wanted to kick the television set in when Gary Glitter appeared on Top Of The Pops.

Doc Shmok · 29-10-2009, 12:21

http://sheffdocfest.com/attachments/...ish_detail.jpg

Channel 4’s head of documentaries Hamish Mykura said high profile crimes against children often prompt calls for the death penalty

FluffyEgg · 29-10-2009, 12:27

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Originally Posted by PrinceGaz

Whilst child-abuse is very very wrong, I could not condone such a horrific punishment as being hung, drawn and quartered.

Death penalty if proven beyond any doubt of being guilty (and the person also confessing to it and asking for it), I could go along with, however, as an alternative to life in jail. But never torture.

Nah, nonces deserve the worst.

Willie Wontie · 29-10-2009, 13:06

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Originally Posted by Flamethrower100

I don't think Alien Warnos, deserved to die. She was clearly insane, and had been abused constantly throughout her life. But she did murder people.

Alien Warnose - is that the next in the series? And will Sigourney Weaver be back as Ripley for one final battle?

Or do you mean Aileen Wuornos? Who wasn't insane, who expressly insisted that she was competent, sane and telling the truth when she said that she killed those men because after she had robbed them she had no use for them anymore, she had hate crawling through her system, she had no respect for human life, and who was assessed by three independent assessors who each declared her absolutely fit to be executed and who fully understood that she would die for her crimes. She said that if she wasn't executed, and if she was ever released, she would do exactly the same again.

Malice Cooper · 29-10-2009, 13:09

He didn't do anything worse than Jacko. Different country, different legal system.

NathalieR · 29-10-2009, 13:33

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Originally Posted by Malice Cooper

He didn't do anything worse than Jacko. Different country, different legal system.

Hardly. GG was found guilty if I remember rightly, slightly different to MJ who was found not guilty.

NathalieR · 29-10-2009, 13:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willie Wontie

Alien Warnose - is that the next in the series? And will Sigourney Weaver be back as Ripley for one final battle?

Or do you mean Aileen Wuornos? Who wasn't insane, who expressly insisted that she was competent, sane and telling the truth when she said that she killed those men because after she had robbed them she had no use for them anymore, she had hate crawling through her system, she had no respect for human life, and who was assessed by three independent assessors who each declared her absolutely fit to be executed and who fully understood that she would die for her crimes. She said that if she wasn't executed, and if she was ever released, she would do exactly the same again.

I watched that Nick Broomfield documentary and I do think she was completely mad. Especially by the end although I don't know if she was mad at the time of her murderous spree.

Malice Cooper · 29-10-2009, 13:38

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Originally Posted by NathalieR

Hardly. GG was found guilty if I remember rightly, slightly different to MJ who was found not guilty.

You remember wrongly
Jacko forked out 20 million to stop it going to court first time around.

silentNate · 29-10-2009, 13:40

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Originally Posted by NathalieR

Hardly. GG was found guilty if I remember rightly, slightly different to MJ who was found not guilty.

Am I to infer that the offense was the same but the court decision different according to your post

29-10-2009, 02:13	#1
seacam Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,790	Gary Glitter to be hung. (Merged) Hello, http://www.inentertainment.co.uk/200...annel-4-drama/ This can not be right, can not be. What ever your feelings are about Gadd or pedophiles this goes against all decency. This film won't be a reflection on what the public feels about pedophilia. This is about a writer/director who hasn't really done anything since 2007 who is missing the limelight. To contact Gadd and tell him we are going to hang you on TV in a film is simply not on. Even if Gadd has accepted a fee or an understanding that he will sue this film cannot be allowed to aired. If Coldstream wants to be controversial, why doesn't he make a film about showing the stringing up of real life Muslims in this country involved in terrorism. The reason he doesn't is because he is gutless, a pedo' is such easy meat, like their victims. What this writer is doing is no better then the Sun or was it the Mirror who started a campaign, " have you seen this person, if so hit him " ( Jeremy Beadle ). I have always been of a mind people who scream, write shoot or kill pedos' further endanger children and such cry's or actions don't keep kids safe. In this respect Coldstream will be no better then Gadd.

29-10-2009, 02:20	#2
MrHoppy Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: UK Posts: 2,779	I imagine it's designed to provoke debate. If public debate isn't periodically provoked about things like the death penalty, there's a real risk that it could come back to the UK. Generally Channel 4 are pretty cool, and i guess the message of the show will be that generally the death penalty, public hysteria and that is a bad thing, although i imagine the show will be somewhat openended and so people will see what they want to see to an extent. I think it's good to have thought provoked like this. I suspect Gary might feel the same, although admittedly i know nothing about the guy other than what i see on the front pages of tabloid newspapers.

29-10-2009, 02:44	#3
Radiomaniac Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In Old Amsterdam Services: Cheese, Clogs, Tulips, Barrel Organ Posts: 17,738 Blog Entries: 2	I don't agree with hanging him. He should be hung, drawn and quartered.

29-10-2009, 02:48	#4
paddysu Forum Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Brighton Services: Freeview Posts: 4,771 Blog Entries: 57	I think its a digusting idea for a program. If they're going to do one then doing it about a ficticious person what difference would it have to the debate cos the one about what should happen to Gary Glitter has happened many times over. I'm pretty sure that to make any sort of film like that they'd have to have his permission and I really wouldn't have thought he'd have given it there again if he gets alot of money out of it as they'd be using real life clips maybe of news bits I think he had all his assets taken when he went in jail maybe its worth it so that if he gets out in the future he's got a bit of cash around. Not actually sure what his sentence is over there but he might be out in about 20 years time. Being about him as well will automatically make me not watch it. If it was a drama, fiction then i might actually watch it but i don't like real crime drama and especially not ones that then play with the endings and something that no way is it ever going to happen in this country.

29-10-2009, 03:02	#8
Flamethrower100 Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,248	The only problem I have with the death penalty. Is that, some people who don't really deserve it, will recieve it. If it is brought back. We can say, oh so and so deserves it, and then some else doesn't. I don't think Alien Warnos, deserved to die. She was clearly insane, and had been abused constantly throughout her life. But she did murder people. So, it can't be one rule for hate figures and another for the rest of them.

29-10-2009, 05:43	#10
darkjedimaster Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Deathstar Services: 8mb Broadband Posts: 5,724	Admin Edit: removed. Getting back to topic, this programme doesn't surprise me in the least, they know people will watch it even it means the human rights brigade getting straight onto ofcom once it has finished. Putting it bluntly, CH4 don't give a f**k about content, as long as they get their ratings for that night. They have proven that more than once. If they think peeps complained over animals being slaughtered in the F-word, that is nothing compared to the complaints they are going to get from this. But knowing CH4 they'll just get a slap on the wrist & that is it.

29-10-2009, 05:59	#11
eliteheat Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 132	This un-aired HIGNFY transcript has been out for ages, allegedly.

29-10-2009, 06:10	#12
blueblade Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chelmsford, Essex ♂ Services: Sky HD, VM broadband Posts: 35,919	Gary Glitter to be symbolically hung. Meanwhile Paul Gadd continues to walk the streets...... .....need one say more ?

29-10-2009, 07:16	#14
grumpyscot Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,154	I personally would not watch or listen to anything involving Gary Glitter, or get invovled in anything that might put money his way. I would banish him to an uninhabited island somewhere and leave him to rot.

29-10-2009, 07:53	#16
jesus of xanadu Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 906	Well I wouldnie cry if he was found hung from the rafters.

29-10-2009, 12:19	#17
stud u like Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Sunny Side Of The Street Services: masculine men with passion! Posts: 17,563 Blog Entries: 14	Shirley Brahms' mother always wanted to kick the television set in when Gary Glitter appeared on Top Of The Pops.

29-10-2009, 12:21	#18
Doc Shmok Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Tranquility Base Services: one small sh\|t for a man one giant ... Posts: 14,122	http://sheffdocfest.com/attachments/...ish_detail.jpg Channel 4’s head of documentaries Hamish Mykura said high profile crimes against children often prompt calls for the death penalty

29-10-2009, 13:09	#21
Malice Cooper Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 749	He didn't do anything worse than Jacko. Different country, different legal system.