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Old 31-10-2009, 18:20   #1
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Best departure so far.

I've been priviliged to view all the on screen departures of the Doctors to date. My favourite would be that of Peter Davison - it helped that Caves Of Androzani was a very strong and emotional story.

The weakest, in all fairness, was Colin Baker, no thanks to his sacking from the part.

I put Tom Baker's departure just behind Davison's followed by Eccleston, Troughton, McCoy, Hartnell, and Pertwee.

If they ever got round to a departure scene for McGann, albeit in the audio world, it would interesting how they'd handle that.
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Old 01-11-2009, 12:40   #2
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From a personal point of view it would have to be Pertwee's. Not the best regeneration nor that good a story, but I loved so many of the elements; Pertwee, Sladen, UNIT and the in coming Tom Baker.

Tom's departure is probably one of Who's biggest. Just a shame it comes at the end of such a dreadful story, with that awful Watcher nonsense thrown in the mix, and too many crap companions around him.

So I'd actually have to say, probably the best departure was Ecclestone's given the story before it was very strong and poignant.

I know this is going to be a controversial thing to say, but I hope desperately that Tennant's exit is not shrouded and therefore marred by overt sentimentality masking as emotion. I love what RTD does, but the emotive qualities have started to border on sentimentality, forcing a reaction from viewers as opposed to allowing it to come naturally. Less is more.

I hope 10 goes quietly and alone rather than the likes of Rose weeping and wailing over him. Regenerating alone, now that would be heartbreaking.
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Old 01-11-2009, 15:53   #3
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From a personal point of view it would have to be Pertwee's. Not the best regeneration nor that good a story, but I loved so many of the elements; Pertwee, Sladen, UNIT and the in coming Tom Baker.

Tom's departure is probably one of Who's biggest. Just a shame it comes at the end of such a dreadful story, with that awful Watcher nonsense thrown in the mix, and too many crap companions around him.

So I'd actually have to say, probably the best departure was Ecclestone's given the story before it was very strong and poignant.

I know this is going to be a controversial thing to say, but I hope desperately that Tennant's exit is not shrouded and therefore marred by overt sentimentality masking as emotion. I love what RTD does, but the emotive qualities have started to border on sentimentality, forcing a reaction from viewers as opposed to allowing it to come naturally. Less is more.

I hope 10 goes quietly and alone rather than the likes of Rose weeping and wailing over him. Regenerating alone, now that would be heartbreaking.
Come to think of it, there won't have been any companions or other associated characters who have been priviliged to have witnessed more than one regeneration process, regardless of how many incarnations of the Doctor they've encountered.

Will this change if Rose or even Sarah-Jane are involved heavily in the storyline of DT's last outing?!
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Old 01-11-2009, 16:23   #4
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For me the three regeneration's which really stick out for me from classic who is the second doctor's, 4th doctor and from what I have seen on you tube footage is the 5th doctor. For me the ending of war games actually made me sad because not only do we say goodbye to the doctor however both Jamie and Zoe lose there memories of traveling with the doctor, however more so Zoe and Jamie lose there friendship as well.

While the story wasn't the strongest for Tom's final story I did like the idea that the Watcher/5th doctor would be stalking the current doctor till the moment was right to become the now doctor. Also I have the feeling that this years Xmas and new years 10 doctors stories are going to have funeral like atmosphere as well.

While I am honest I haven't seen the 5th doctors regeneration story i cannot really comment on the whole story however I will say I liked the idea that all the companions would "vist" or appear to the doctor while he is dying, also I admit that the master willing the doctor to die in creepy.

I think what could happen this year is that we may have the doctor regenerating on his own. I think we are going to get to see each companion in the from of either a trip in time baring Wilf who i think will be dropped off just before the process starts.
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Old 02-11-2009, 14:50   #5
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From a personal point of view it would have to be Pertwee's. Not the best regeneration nor that good a story, but I loved so many of the elements; Pertwee, Sladen, UNIT and the in coming Tom Baker.

Tom's departure is probably one of Who's biggest. Just a shame it comes at the end of such a dreadful story, with that awful Watcher nonsense thrown in the mix, and too many crap companions around him.

So I'd actually have to say, probably the best departure was Ecclestone's given the story before it was very strong and poignant.

I know this is going to be a controversial thing to say, but I hope desperately that Tennant's exit is not shrouded and therefore marred by overt sentimentality masking as emotion. I love what RTD does, but the emotive qualities have started to border on sentimentality, forcing a reaction from viewers as opposed to allowing it to come naturally. Less is more.

I hope 10 goes quietly and alone rather than the likes of Rose weeping and wailing over him. Regenerating alone, now that would be heartbreaking.
I'm also a little worried about what RTD will do for the forthcoming regeneration...but when I think back to how things ended for Donna in Journey's End I know he can still make things heartbreaking without going over the top...
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Old 02-11-2009, 18:22   #6
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I've been priviliged to view all the on screen departures of the Doctors to date. My favourite would be that of Peter Davison - it helped that Caves Of Androzani was a very strong and emotional story.

The weakest, in all fairness, was Colin Baker, no thanks to his sacking from the part.

I put Tom Baker's departure just behind Davison's followed by Eccleston, Troughton, McCoy, Hartnell, and Pertwee.

If they ever got round to a departure scene for McGann, albeit in the audio world, it would interesting how they'd handle that.
I agree with you about Peter's departure being the best one, he certainly has the best leaving story to date. I don't actually like Tom's last story that much, at least I don't like the resolution of it after a promising build up. Falling from a tower is kind of a lame way for such a an iconic Doctor to go out for me!

I also think Chris's departure was lovely, the final scene with Rose in the Tardis is beautifully played by them both.
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Old 02-11-2009, 18:54   #7
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See, McCoy is my Doctor and as an extremely early TV memory* I remember seeing Time and the Rani at original broadcast (or possibly taped, half an hour later, if that was when Doctor Who clashed with Coronation Street) and not thinking twice about the manner of the regeneration. Even now I still think it's a fitting way of unceremoniously hatcheting all that was wrong during the period that Baker played the role.

I agree that Troughton's is the best after Davison for the reasons stated by Big Steve and also because he seems to know that he's throwing away his own liberty from the minute he has to call in the Time Lords.

* I think there's nothing after that until Danny Kendall's death in Mr Bronson's car.
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:03   #8
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From a personal point of view it would have to be Pertwee's. Not the best regeneration nor that good a story, but I loved so many of the elements; Pertwee, Sladen, UNIT and the in coming Tom Baker.

Tom's departure is probably one of Who's biggest. Just a shame it comes at the end of such a dreadful story, with that awful Watcher nonsense thrown in the mix, and too many crap companions around him.

So I'd actually have to say, probably the best departure was Ecclestone's given the story before it was very strong and poignant.

I know this is going to be a controversial thing to say, but I hope desperately that Tennant's exit is not shrouded and therefore marred by overt sentimentality masking as emotion. I love what RTD does, but the emotive qualities have started to border on sentimentality, forcing a reaction from viewers as opposed to allowing it to come naturally. Less is more.

I hope 10 goes quietly and alone rather than the likes of Rose weeping and wailing over him. Regenerating alone, now that would be heartbreaking.

I think there is a big chance that he will regenerate by himself, because if you consider the likely hood of either Donna or Rose being there, well change itself won't be enough to deter them from travelling with him again. Unless ofcourse its someone like Jack or Martha that is with him...but definitely not Rose or Donna. Unless they are there, but something happens to them, as I really cannot see them just walking away...


So far I love the Fifth Doctor's and the Ninth Doctor's regeneration, and closely followed by Two and Three....Four's is the only annoying one. He deserved better. And the others I am indifferent to, allthough if I could ever watch it, I'm sure I would like the first regeneration too!!!
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:16   #9
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I agree that Troughton's is the best after Davison for the reasons stated by Big Steve and also because he seems to know that he's throwing away his own liberty from the minute he has to call in the Time Lords.
Actually I think Troughton's doctor knew what was going to happen to himself (maybe not the enforced Regeneration but the trial more so) the second he sees the immense scope of what was going on (The second they got the map showing all the different war zones)
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Old 03-11-2009, 13:45   #10
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See, McCoy is my Doctor and as an extremely early TV memory* I remember seeing Time and the Rani at original broadcast (or possibly taped, half an hour later, if that was when Doctor Who clashed with Coronation Street) and not thinking twice about the manner of the regeneration. Even now I still think it's a fitting way of unceremoniously hatcheting all that was wrong during the period that Baker played the role.

I agree that Troughton's is the best after Davison for the reasons stated by Big Steve and also because he seems to know that he's throwing away his own liberty from the minute he has to call in the Time Lords.

* I think there's nothing after that until Danny Kendall's death in Mr Bronson's car.
Don't even mention Danny Kendall's death *sobs uncontrollably*
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Old 03-11-2009, 14:08   #11
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i have to echo many of the posts above.

For me Troughtons was the best and most heartbreaking due to the loss of the companions memories.

I think it would be fitting to see ten regenerating alone since he has the whole "lonely god" vibe going on. That would be heartbreaking. Rose being there would spoil the narrative as they would have to come up with another ridiculous way of getting her back to the parrallel universe.

Fours was the most ridiculous. for such an iconic doctor to have such a lame death is disappointing

Am i the only one that doesnt want to see the 8-9 regeneration onscreen
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Old 03-11-2009, 15:42   #12
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See, McCoy is my Doctor and as an extremely early TV memory* I remember seeing Time and the Rani at original broadcast (or possibly taped, half an hour later, if that was when Doctor Who clashed with Coronation Street) and not thinking twice about the manner of the regeneration. Even now I still think it's a fitting way of unceremoniously hatcheting all that was wrong during the period that Baker played the role.
What about all that was right when Colin was in the role? I loved Colin's Doctor. The way the BBC treated him was shameful.
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