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Old 03-11-2009, 10:08   #1
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Rachel confirms the Danyl - Stacey incident

All of the Danyl fans were saying it was another made up story when Danyl was reported to have kept picking on Stacey by reading out newspaper reports about her when she had clearly stated that she did not want to hear them.

This from the guy who was crying over bad press. Can Danyl fans believe that these are not just nasty rumours now or is Rachel lying as well???

Rachel said: “At the beginning I don’t think viewers knew who I was. They knew I was this girl who liked to sing and that’s all.

“Whereas the others... they knew Stacey from Dagenham and Lucie from her little village in Wales.

Everyone had a little story. No-one knew who I was. I wasn’t broadcast as much as anyone else.

“Simon’s comments about me probably didn’t help either.”

Rachel also broke ranks and said that there ARE fights among the finalists, despite the others’ claims that they all get along well.

She confirmed that Danyl upset Stacey by reading out hurtful press cuttings to her about being a bad mum for leaving her young son at home.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:11   #2
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I never said it was a lie, I said I didnt believe it was the only row that had happened although it was the only one reported.

I am sure a lot of them row about many different things, but unless Danyl and a girl are involved it will never be reported.

If he did that, it was mean. However, unless I meet him in person, I can't tell you what he is actually like. I enjoy his singing and his performances so will continue to vote for him as long as I do. This is after all, a talent/entertainment contest, not a nicest person or a run for prime minister.

Simple as that really.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:11   #3
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All of the Danyl fans were saying it was another made up story when Danyl was reported to have kept picking on Stacey by reading out newspaper reports about her when she had clearly stated that she did not want to hear them.

This from the guy who was crying over bad press. Can Danyl fans believe that these are not just nasty rumours now or is Rachel lying as well???

Rachel said: “At the beginning I don’t think viewers knew who I was. They knew I was this girl who liked to sing and that’s all.

“Whereas the others... they knew Stacey from Dagenham and Lucie from her little village in Wales.

Everyone had a little story. No-one knew who I was. I wasn’t broadcast as much as anyone else.

“Simon’s comments about me probably didn’t help either.”

Rachel also broke ranks and said that there ARE fights among the finalists, despite the others’ claims that they all get along well.

She confirmed that Danyl upset Stacey by reading out hurtful press cuttings to her about being a bad mum for leaving her young son at home.
spot on. you hardly ever saw her in the shows before the live rounds started. i think it really did hurt her chances. i said it last night she didn't have a gimmick or sob story. prehaps if she did she might still be in there.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:12   #4
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Nasty man.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:13   #5
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I'm not surprised to be honest.

He's got an evil way about him.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:17   #6
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The thing missing in this article is context.

Ok Stacey may have been hurt but theres no details about Danyl doing anything deliberately or continuing when asked not to. Perhaps Stacey is just s little emotional. Its a non story IMO
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:21   #7
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The thing missing in this article is context.

Ok Stacey may have been hurt but theres no details about Danyl doing anything deliberately or continuing when asked not to. Perhaps Stacey is just s little emotional. Its a non story IMO
Correct

Was Stacey upset with the article or Danyl telling her about it? Context is not clear at all.

It is on balance a non story, agreed, but I am not surprised it has been seized upon as "evidence" against Danyl.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:22   #8
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Rachel is correct about the public "not knowing" her. She hardly got any airtime, Stacey and Lucie have had their sob-stories about being a single mum and being from a "tiny" village... Rachel has had her voice and that's it. Massive disadvantage when so many people are voting in their droves for the likes of J&E - if they hadn't had so much media attention and airtime, they'd have been gone in the first week.

I don't feel surprised that Danyl read out hurtful press comments to Stacey, I don't get good vibes from it at all but would like him to prove me wrong. He's got a good voice, not my cup of tea, and I think he actually deserved to be in the bottom 2/3 last week with his tuneless performance.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:24   #9
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Rachel had enough airtie this year and last to be remembered this year on her return, and plenty on the results shows. I don't blame her for being disappointed that her time on the show has ended, but she doesn't seem to be taking it well.

I would be annoyed with Dnayl if he read out negative articles about me without my permission as well, wonder if he read about everyone but onlu Stacey got upset?

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Old 03-11-2009, 10:24   #10
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The thing missing in this article is context.

Ok Stacey may have been hurt but theres no details about Danyl doing anything deliberately or continuing when asked not to. Perhaps Stacey is just s little emotional. Its a non story IMO
Oh another non story

I am sure that if it was nothing then rachel could have said "Yes there was an incident but it was a misunderstanding and danyl didn't mean it" but she didn't say that. It's funny how that story came out and everyone said it was just the press making it up, then now it has been confirmed people still don't want to accept it. Nice people don't do nasty things like that.

I also remember that week on the show Dannii saying that stacey had a very bad week in the house and she had been having a good girly talk to her as she had been really upset and crying.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:28   #11
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Oh another non story

I am sure that if it was nothing then rachel could have said "Yes there was an incident but it was a misunderstanding and danyl didn't mean it" but she didn't say that. It's funny how that story came out and everyone said it was just the press making it up, then now it has been confirmed people still don't want to accept it. Nice people don't do nasty things like that.

I also remember that week on the show Dannii saying that stacey had a very bad week in the house and she had been having a good girly talk to her as she had been really upset and crying.
Yes but this is an article from the Daily Star. Red tops have never been renowned for reporting context correctly. Who knows what else Rachel said in the interview that the paper decided to leave out for "dramatic effect"
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:29   #12
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The thing missing in this article is context.

Ok Stacey may have been hurt but theres no details about Danyl doing anything deliberately or continuing when asked not to. Perhaps Stacey is just s little emotional. Its a non story IMO
I can't think that reading out stories about Stacey being a bad mother in front of her would be acceptible in any context.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:33   #13
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I can't think that reading out stories about Stacey being a bad mother in front of her would be acceptible in any context.
Perhaps she asked to have it read to her and then got upset? Who knows.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:33   #14
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GET YOUR FACT STRAIGHT

She said: “Me and Stacey are close, and her and Danyl argue like your sister and your brother. They had a quarrel, I dunno what it was about, but it is like arguing with your relative. I think it’s cool now.”

IT WAS A NON-ARGUMENT, NOT BULLYING
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:35   #15
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Nasty man.
get over yourself PLLLLLLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEE!!
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:42   #16
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What a nasty man is Danyl, how can a bully go back to teaching when his time is up on X factor
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:46   #17
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What a nasty man is Danyl, how can a bully go back to teaching when his time is up on X factor
So for an unconfirmed accusation you are wanting a guy to lose his job - FFS - how old are you? Actually, don't bother answering......
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:49   #18
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What this thread shows is that Forum members are happy to cry "Fix & manipulation" with regard to X factor producers & Simon Cowell but are happy to accept every rumuor about contestants as fact.

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Old 03-11-2009, 10:49   #19
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GET YOUR FACT STRAIGHT

She said: “Me and Stacey are close, and her and Danyl argue like your sister and your brother. They had a quarrel, I dunno what it was about, but it is like arguing with your relative. I think it’s cool now.”

IT WAS A NON-ARGUMENT, NOT BULLYING
Trouble is, the press will always leave out bits and twist words even if they have given the interview themselves. The worst part is that people still actually take word for word as gospel and peoples lives and careers can be ruined over some trivial thing blown out of proportion.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:51   #20
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spot on. you hardly ever saw her in the shows before the live rounds started. i think it really did hurt her chances. i said it last night she didn't have a gimmick or sob story. prehaps if she did she might still be in there.
Yeah I noticed that, too - Everyone else had these 'epic' auditions or a fair amount of coverage of some description (didn't Olly, Jamie and Danyl get an entire segment to themselves?!), with the exception of Kandy Rain and that doesn't exactly disprove that theory since they were first out. When I saw Rachel was in the final 12 I was like... "...who?"
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:52   #21
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So for an unconfirmed accusation you are wanting a guy to lose his job - FFS - how old are you? Actually, don't bother answering......
And where did i say I was wanting him to lose his job, quote that line please..kmt
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GET YOUR FACT STRAIGHT

She said: “Me and Stacey are close, and her and Danyl argue like your sister and your brother. They had a quarrel, I dunno what it was about, but it is like arguing with your relative. I think it’s cool now.”

IT WAS A NON-ARGUMENT, NOT BULLYING


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What a nasty man is Danyl, how can a bully go back to teaching when his time is up on X factor

See, a little twist by the press, omitted all or parts of sentences etc can turn people into actually wishing someone loses their profession
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:00   #23
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See, a little twist by the press, omitted all or parts of sentences etc can turn people into actually wishing someone loses their profession
Again please quote where I wished him to lose his job?
You can't can you, do you work for the press aswell? you're good at twisting words
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:00   #24
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I never said it was a lie, I said I didnt believe it was the only row that had happened although it was the only one reported.
I am sure a lot of them row about many different things, but unless Danyl and a girl are involved it will never be reported.

If he did that, it was mean. However, unless I meet him in person, I can't tell you what he is actually like. I enjoy his singing and his performances so will continue to vote for him as long as I do. This is after all, a talent/entertainment contest, not a nicest person or a run for prime minister.

Simple as that really.
Because rows can happen at any time over something as simple as who ate the last tin of beans. There is a difference between that and picking on someone to the point that they cry and, even worse, it being over something as precious as your child.

Sadly, this is only the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more that could be reported.

Yes, this is a talent show (in which case Danyl has no business winning either) but if you want to carry on supporting someone who is so evidently a nasty piece of work taking up space and oxygen on the planet and give them the prize, I am glad I do not think the same way as you.
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Old 03-11-2009, 11:01   #25
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I can't think that reading out stories about Stacey being a bad mother in front of her would be acceptible in any context.
Exactly,I can see the Danyl fans minds working, it is like they live in some sort of fantasy land.

Lets picture it

Stacey: "Danyl please read out those nasty articles about me in the press"

Danyl: "No Stacey I'm such a nice guy I could not possibly do that"

Stacey "I insist you read out loud Danyl those stories about me being a really bad mother"

Danyl : Ok then but I really don't want to do this.......


Stacey gets upset so everyone says "right lets inform the press and make Danyl look like a really nasty person"

Now we all wake up and smell the coffee , I am sure if Stacey had wanted to know then she would have read them herself, but then again Danyl fans probably think she can't read so he did it for her out of the goodness of his heart
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