[Flan Flinger]

It's the worse year that i can remember for walk outs

[lovinit44]

I think they all came in with plans and they didn't work, also i think they realised they wouldn't be getting mega famous from the show this year

[wonkeydonkey]

I think BB has always relied on two things to keep the housemates clinging on: naked ambition, with the dream that Kate Lawler's career can be achieved all over again; and the long, gruelling selection process, weeding out the uncommitted.

By BB10 they all knew that the audiences were dwindling fast and BB ex housemates had become unpopular with the rest of the media, so, apart from the two aspiring glamour models, there was not much to be ambitious about.

And several of them didn't audition at all. It was rumoured the Isaac didn't even want to do it at all, and had to be badgered into it. Kenneth, apart from being a most peculiar person, appears to have come in to establish himself and Karly as a marketable couple, then discovered that she wasn't even there. I think he felt lonely and homesick myself, though obviously I can't prove it. Tom clearly saw himself as a bit too good for it all.

Saffia comes into a different category. Parents of very young children don't seem to make the cheeriest housemates. Many of us don't really like seeing the PRIMARY carer of a very tiny child committing to an indefinite period with no contact with their child, and the history of misery among housemates in that position suggests that they agree. It might be better if they were not selected in the future.

[bluegroper]

Originally Posted by wonkeydonkey

I think BB has always relied on two things to keep the housemates clinging on: naked ambition, with the dream that Kate Lawler's career can be achieved all over again; and the long, gruelling selection process, weeding out the uncommitted.

By BB10 they all knew that the audiences were dwindling fast and BB ex housemates had become unpopular with the rest of the media, so, apart from the two aspiring glamour models, there was not much to be ambitious about.

And several of them didn't audition at all. It was rumoured the Isaac didn't even want to do it at all, and had to be badgered into it. Kenneth, apart from being a most peculiar person, appears to have come in to establish himself and Karly as a marketable couple, then discovered that she wasn't even there. I think he felt lonely and homesick myself, though obviously I can't prove it. Tom clearly saw himself as a bit too good for it all.

Saffia comes into a different category. Parents of very young children don't seem to make the cheeriest housemates. Many of us don't really like seeing the PRIMARY carer of a very tiny child committing to an indefinite period with no contact with their child, and the history of misery among housemates in that position suggests that they agree. It might be better if they were not selected in the future.

It comes down to poor selection choice, having to badger people into the program they wouldn't have otherwise applied is rediculous and a farce.

Kenneth enters and Karly getting evicted.
Isacc enters and Noreen evicted.

It wasn't a surprise when they walked. Would have been better not to bring them in at all and give it to people who have been in the audition process for up to 6 months.

[CLL Dodge]

Kenneth & Isaac were effectively guest stars.

So it was only Saffia & Tom that walked.

[Scots rool]

Originally Posted by Flan Flinger

It's the worse year that i can remember for walk outs

Kenneth & Issac were both paid to 'appear', job done. They had no need or inclination to stay after that.

Long gone are the days when 'ordinary' HM's are chosen. They should install a revolving door in the house.

[Barracute]

It was ridiculous that 3 "extra" hms all walked - each within a week of entering, total waste of time. Saffia was an even bigger waste of time and space - why was she there?

4 walkers is i am pretty sure a record (they are all walkers regardless why they went in or how long they were in as they all left of their own volition not at the behest of BB or a vote).

There really should be some penalty applied for walking - like docking their daily allowance.

[Flan Flinger]

Originally Posted by bluegroper

It comes down to poor selection choice, having to badger people into the program they wouldn't have otherwise applied is rediculous and a farce.

Kenneth enters and Karly getting evicted.
Isacc enters and Noreen evicted.

It wasn't a surprise when they walked. Would have been better not to bring them in at all and give it to people who have been in the audition process for up to 6 months.

Does make you wonder why those places were not given to someone who wanted the experiance of BB and therefore might have been more entertaining .

[Sprogg]

Kenneth and Issac don't really count. At least Issac spent more than a few minutes with Noirin. Kenneth's time was just a total waste.

People with kids under 16 (Saffia) shouldn't be allowed in and Tom just didn't like not being fawned over.

[Scots rool]

Originally Posted by Barracute

It was ridiculous that 3 "extra" hms all walked - each within a week of entering, total waste of time. Saffia was an even bigger waste of time and space - why was she there?

4 walkers is i am pretty sure a record (they are all walkers regardless why they went in or how long they were in as they all left of their own volition not at the behest of BB or a vote).

There really should be some penalty applied for walking - like docking their daily allowance.

I don't think losing their £30 a day would make much impact on them.
They shouldn't be allowed to go on any of the sister programmes following their walk out.

The likes of Kenneth & Isaac should never have been paid for 'appearing' (they were laughing all the way to the bank)..........all potential HM's should audition in the standard way. It's just a joke now anyway!

For a channel which is pleading poverty I don't understand their reasoning in paying people to 'appear' on BB..........their stupid twists never work anyway, as has been proved over & over again.

[Flan Flinger]

Originally Posted by Scots rool

I don't think losing their £30 a day would make much impact on them.
They shouldn't be allowed to go on any of the sister programmes following their walk out.

The likes of Kenneth & Isaac should never have been paid for 'appearing' (they were laughing all the way to the bank)..........all potential HM's should audition in the standard way. It's just a joke now anyway!

For a channel which is pleading poverty I don't understand their reasoning in paying people to 'appear' on BB..........their stupid twists never work anyway, as has been proved over & over again.

Absolutely and totaly agree with your post SR

[Barracute]

Originally Posted by Scots rool

I don't think losing their £30 a day would make much impact on them.
They shouldn't be allowed to go on any of the sister programmes following their walk out.

The likes of Kenneth & Isaac should never have been paid for 'appearing' (they were laughing all the way to the bank)..........all potential HM's should audition in the standard way. It's just a joke now anyway!

For a channel which is pleading poverty I don't understand their reasoning in paying people to 'appear' on BB..........their stupid twists never work anyway, as has been proved over & over again.

I know it wont make a lot of difference (docking the allowance) i was just throwing it out lol it is infact the only direct financial punishment bb can apply. Stopping them appearing on BBLB will never happen, as soon as they enter BB, they are part of it and so will have an inside story to tell, which BB will want to exploit.. sorry i mean explain with imput from the hm. Hms will always have the opportunity to make a few bucks from Heat etc regardless of walking or anything else - there is NO way BB can stop anyone from giving press interviews/making appearances etc - and they wouldnt anyway as its all good PR - the last thing they would want is a walker to disappear in a puff of smoke as soon as the door shuts behind them in the camera run.

In effect there is nothing to stop anyone walking - but imo rather than inventing reasons to stop them leaving what they really need are reasons for them to WANT to stay, make BB something they actually enjoy, the whole experience with the other hms in the house should be an adventure and exciting, the last few years have been more of an ordeal !

[Flan Flinger]

Originally Posted by Sprogg

Kenneth and Issac don't really count. At least Issac spent more than a few minutes with Noirin. Kenneth's time was just a total waste.

People with kids under 16 (Saffia) shouldn't be allowed in and Tom just didn't like not being fawned over.

Seems to me that BB don't mind throwning money away .What a waste bringing Ken & Issac in .its an old post ,but i;m sure there were more worthy people out there who would have made more of the oportunity.

[Electra]

Originally Posted by Sprogg

Kenneth and Issac don't really count. At least Issac spent more than a few minutes with Noirin. Kenneth's time was just a total waste.

People with kids under 16 (Saffia) shouldn't be allowed in and Tom just didn't like not being fawned over.

Well that's no Victor or Lea then. Just two names that immediately spring to mind. Darren was another one.

[Scots rool]

Originally Posted by Barracute

I know it wont make a lot of difference (docking the allowance) i was just throwing it out lol it is infact the only direct financial punishment bb can apply. Stopping them appearing on BBLB will never happen, as soon as they enter BB, they are part of it and so will have an inside story to tell, which BB will want to exploit.. sorry i mean explain with imput from the hm. Hms will always have the opportunity to make a few bucks from Heat etc regardless of walking or anything else - there is NO way BB can stop anyone from giving press interviews/making appearances etc - and they wouldnt anyway as its all good PR - the last thing they would want is a walker to disappear in a puff of smoke as soon as the door shuts behind them in the camera run.

In effect there is nothing to stop anyone walking - but imo rather than inventing reasons to stop them leaving what they really need are reasons for them to WANT to stay, make BB something they actually enjoy, the whole experience with the other hms in the house should be an adventure and exciting, the last few years have been more of an ordeal !

Fully agree with that.....in actual fact the HM's don't really care if they're in there for a short time, they're ever hopeful they'll cash in when they leave. Thanks goodness that isn't happening as much as it did - given the calibre of HM now!

[richie4eva]

My opinion is that BB, as proven in recent years, have lost their authority big time

And BB have only got themselves to blame for this mess IMO

If they had refrained from putting people from talent and modelling agencies and putting in people who have had past experience in the test runs and people who have been on TV before....

And they put in people who wanted to be there for the experience element who didn't want the fame then so much the better

They wouldn't be in half the s**t they are now and not looking above their heads as the axe prepares to fall

[CLL Dodge]

Originally Posted by Electra

Well that's no Victor or Lea then. Just two names that immediately spring to mind. Darren was another one.

I'm sure the producers discuss separation from young children with any potential parent HMs.

Maybe in Saffia's case they got it wrong (though she had other reasons for walking too).

A parent has never won the summer BBUK.

[bluegroper]

Originally Posted by Electra

Well that's no Victor or Lea then. Just two names that immediately spring to mind. Darren was another one.

I don't think having older kids (teenagers) is a problem as they can adapt with mum or dad being away, as long as they have good family support. Its having younger kids too young to watch a program like BB, which I think was Saffia's case and she shouldn't have been picked.

[Vesna]

Having pre verbal children, those too young to understand why mum or dad is in the tv and not at home is a problem, IMO. Especially if it's a single parent entering the house. Such as Saffia, Jen, Stu and to an extent Jade.

Older children who are old enough to be left alone are a different story. And just to clarify I'm not implying that any child under 18 is ok to be left alone for weeks or months. I'm saying that children who don't need babysitters are old enough to understand why mum or dad is on tv and not at home.

That said I don't see that being a main reason why people walked early. Saffia didn't want to be second fiddle to Sophie in Kris's affections. Ken wanted to drum up press for him and Karly, his massive ego is able to ignore the fact that he's just a prat with expensive shoes and without Karly there to make excuses for his behaviour he was lost. Isaac didn't want to be there. Tom I think was totally unprepared for the mind numbing boredom nor Marcus.

[thenetworkbabe]

Originally Posted by richie4eva

My opinion is that BB, as proven in recent years, have lost their authority big time

And BB have only got themselves to blame for this mess IMO

If they had refrained from putting people from talent and modelling agencies and putting in people who have had past experience in the test runs and people who have been on TV before....

And they put in people who wanted to be there for the experience element who didn't want the fame then so much the better

They wouldn't be in half the s**t they are now and not looking above their heads as the axe prepares to fall

I don't care where they get them from or if they spotted them now or 9 years ago. What I think we need is HM who are there because they fit into a theme and fit positively or negatively with the other people there. If its an otherwise calm house I want a Fed who will muck up all the tasks that other people were picked to try very hard at, if there's a poor side I want a Kate there not Nikki or Kat or Charley, if Sezer or Carole is going to try and lead I want someone who will oppose them - not 10 who will follow.

The problem is that they have spotted a group of random OTT HM and put them in a cupboard for later use and seem to add to it anyone they find from some agency and some more who turn up for the first time. They then seem to take out a random selection of the obviously OTT each year, send them into the house in the hope they will do something and then throw in a few more at halftime for good luck.