[DVDfever]

And all Freeview boxes/TVs have to be retuned. As a result, my trusty Nokia boxes will be a brick soon. BBC1, BBC2 and some other channels can't be retuned to it due to their frequencies changing (or something like that). Marvellous(!)

Say goodbye to Ceefax (soon) as well.

Welcome to Third World Britain.

[ftv]

The switch-off has been known about for years. Sounds like you weren't prepared.

[hugon]

Originally Posted by DVDfever

Welcome to Third World Britain.

Hello Mr Mountain. Hello Mr Molehill.

[ElMarko]

Originally Posted by DVDfever

Welcome to Third World Britain.

You're brilliant.

[DVDfever]

Originally Posted by ftv

The switch-off has been known about for years. Sounds like you weren't prepared.

My plasma TV's retuned okay. I didn't know for sure that it would knacker my Nokia boxes. And there's me thinking the government wanted to cut down on junk going to landfill...

Well, I say junk, but it's been a perfectly serviceable box until now and I thought the whole change was a backwards step anyway. I still haven't changed that view.

[DVDfever]

Originally Posted by ElMarko

You're brilliant.

I could've thrown in a moan about not getting a vote on the Lisbon Treaty either, but this isn't a politics forum. Either way, when a decision is made by the government, you know it's going to be a duffer.

[dids858]

What will the BBC do now they wont be able to show the Superleague show on certain weeks on BBC2 analogue.

No doubt they will axe it.

[Triple-P]

pmsl

you had a long tim to prepare for this, you only got your self to blame.

who the hell still watches analogue tv! just get a freeview box.

im at university halls and i get sky tv for free in the lounge! get with the times.

[mossy2103]

Originally Posted by DVDfever

And all Freeview boxes/TVs have to be retuned. As a result, my trusty Nokia boxes will be a brick soon. BBC1, BBC2 and some other channels can't be retuned to it due to their frequencies changing (or something like that). Marvellous(!)

Say goodbye to Ceefax (soon) as well.

Welcome to Third World Britain.

Congratulations. As ever, the master of the over-statement. At least you have found something else to complain about - even though this switchoff has been well-publicised to quite a few years, and with you being so keenly interested in all things TV and broadcasting, I'm surprised that this has taken you by surprise in that your old (there is a clue there) Nokia box has now ceased to be serviceable. Was it the NIT issue perhaps?

[Mikeandhersonq]

Originally Posted by DVDfever

And all Freeview boxes/TVs have to be retuned. As a result, my trusty Nokia boxes will be a brick soon. BBC1, BBC2 and some other channels can't be retuned to it due to their frequencies changing (or something like that). Marvellous(!)

Say goodbye to Ceefax (soon) as well.

Welcome to Third World Britain.

Is the Third World most of America and Europe and Oceania who are also switching over?

[linkinpark875]

I'm amazed there's some people still watch analogue. I have seen a few still use it around here. Personally I've never turned analogue into my tv since 2002.

I imagine by the time they do cut these channels off there will be little worth watching. BBC1, 2, ITV, C4 and Five will naturally cut output as they become digital channels. Already Five sell airtime to quiz tv and ITV's STV region have teleshopping on.

[PeterB]

Originally Posted by linkinpark875

I'm amazed there's some people still watch analogue. I have seen a few still use it around here. Personally I've never turned analogue into my tv since 2002.

I imagine by the time they do cut these channels off there will be little worth watching. BBC1, 2, ITV, C4 and Five will naturally cut output as they become digital channels. Already Five sell airtime to quiz tv and ITV's STV region have teleshopping on.

Please explain.

[Digifriendly]

Originally Posted by linkinpark875

I'm amazed there's some people still watch analogue. I have seen a few still use it around here. Personally I've never turned analogue into my tv since 2002. .

As noted above Rugby league fans in North of England would watch analogue BBC2 for earlier showing of Super League Show than national showing. Now this option is unavalable for BBC2 on digital so maybe they will switch it to BBC1. Also some people find Ceefax/Teletext easier to access and more pages than digital text e.g. more regional sports pages on analogue ceefax than digital version.

[The Wizard]

I lost BBC2 analogue today as well as all BBC digital channels. I did a retune on my Humax 9200T PVR but the channels remained blank. Just a black screen. Do I need to wait for some kind of everlap period?

[chrisjr]

Originally Posted by The Wizard

I lost BBC2 analogue today as well as all BBC digital channels. I did a retune on my Humax 9200T PVR but the channels remained blank. Just a black screen. Do I need to wait for some kind of everlap period?

Two options.

1/ Do a Factory reset on it. You won't lose any recordings but will lose any scheduled recordings sat waiting to go.

or

2/ Go into the Edit Channels List section and delete every single TV and Radio channel.

Either will remove all your existing tuning data. Then retune and that should sort it.

Seems to be a well known quirk of the Humax PVRs.

[The Wizard]

Originally Posted by chrisjr

Two options.

1/ Do a Factory reset on it. You won't lose any recordings but will lose any scheduled recordings sat waiting to go.

or

2/ Go into the Edit Channels List section and delete every single TV and Radio channel.

Either will remove all your existing tuning data. Then retune and that should sort it.

Seems to be a well known quirk of the Humax PVRs.

Thanks, I'll try option 2 first save having to put all my schedulled recordings in again. I hope I don't lose and recorded programmes. I've noticed that my box keeps crashing alot recently too and I end up having to turn it off and on at the mains. Sometimes my recorded programmes get corrupted and I see duplicates of each thing I've recorded but they won't play. Last time it happened was on the last retune and again last night.

[chrisjr]

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Thanks, I'll try option 2 first save having to put all my schedulled recordings in again. I hope I don't lose and recorded programmes. I've noticed that my box keeps crashing alot recently too and I end up having to turn it off and on at the mains. Sometimes my recorded programmes get corrupted and I see duplicates of each thing I've recorded but they won't play. Last time it happened was on the last retune and again last night.

I can't be 100% certain about option 2 retaining your scheduled recordings since I have only ever tried it when I had nothing set. to record. Not sure if the Humax is intelligent enough to wipe scheduled recordings pointing at channels you no longer have or not.

So use with caution. Maybe try setting up a dummy recording on some channel you don't mind losing and then delete just that channel and see what happens first.

[STEVE 03]

Originally Posted by dids858

What will the BBC do now they wont be able to show the Superleague show on certain weeks on BBC2 analogue.

No doubt they will axe it.

I think all regional variations of the terrestrial channels will still exist after the Digital Switch over. I know on Sky the regional variations such as BBC One & Two Wales and Scotland etc are all placed near the back end of EPG. I think they are also available on Freeview.

[Bill Clinton]

Has the power on BBC digital channels gone up as a result of this? I ask this because I have a USB freeview stick with analogue and on the move the analogue channels were often the only reception and it couldn't get any digital. Might the BBC channels at least be more likely to work now.

[russellelly]

Originally Posted by STEVE 03

I think all regional variations of the terrestrial channels will still exist after the Digital Switch over. I know on Sky the regional variations such as BBC One & Two Wales and Scotland etc are all placed near the back end of EPG. I think they are also available on Freeview.

Only BBC Two Digital regions are the nations, ie Scot/Eng/Wales/NI, but not individual English regions eg North West England, London etc. This is due to use of statistical multiplexing.

[Digifriendly]

Originally Posted by STEVE 03

I think all regional variations of the terrestrial channels will still exist after the Digital Switch over. I know on Sky the regional variations such as BBC One & Two Wales and Scotland etc are all placed near the back end of EPG. I think they are also available on Freeview.

If you mean BBC2W is available in Freeview in Wales BBC2 Scotland in Scotland and BBC2 NI in NI yes you're right but if you mean all 3 nationally on Freeview the answer is no. I only wish they were! This is for me one of the great drawbacks of Freeview compared to Freesat/FSFS. Remember also on digital (both DTT/satellite) there is only one BBC 2 region in England and no regional variations.

[VirginMediaPhil]

Originally Posted by Digifriendly

Remember also on digital (both DTT/satellite) there is only one BBC 2 region in England and no regional variations.

Strange, after re-tuning my equipment today, BBC One Wales and BBC Two Wales appeared on channels 898 and 899. (I'm in the Granada region).

[russellelly]

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil

Strange, after re-tuning my equipment today, BBC One Wales and BBC Two Wales appeared on channels 898 and 899. (I'm in the Granada region).

I believe a Welsh transmitter has it its power increased, causing it increased reception in the NW of England. Check the thread in the Freeview part of the forum to be sure.

[PeterB]

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil

Strange, after re-tuning my equipment today, BBC One Wales and BBC Two Wales appeared on channels 898 and 899. (I'm in the Granada region).

North Wales has changed over. Boxes put extra channels found in the 800's.

[The Wizard]

Originally Posted by Bill Clinton

Has the power on BBC digital channels gone up as a result of this? I ask this because I have a USB freeview stick with analogue and on the move the analogue channels were often the only reception and it couldn't get any digital. Might the BBC channels at least be more likely to work now.

According to my signal strength levels after I did my retune they are the same at it was before. I'm getting about 88% on BBC1 so nothing has changed yet. Maybe they will up the power after stage 2 in December. I'm hoping that channels like ITV2 will be in higher quality too. What's the point in having a HDTV when they are transmitting a highly compressed signal which pixelates all the time.