Iplayer Question - Freesat

You_mo · 07-11-2009, 17:00

On my PC and ipod touch, the iplayer buffers for a few seconds before playing. I'm guessing that it makes it less likely to pause on playback. Both of these devices have a hard drive/memory to buffer to.

Does the freesat receiver have any sort of memory to buffer to? If not will it be more likely to pause and jump during playback?

Bob_Cat · 07-11-2009, 17:39

A set top box is much like any other embedded computer system, it has RAM and this RAM can be used for buffering.

The Foxsat range has enough RAM to hold a decent buffer.

You_mo · 07-11-2009, 18:05

Thanks! I'm looking forward to having access to it on my TV as long as it's watchable. It works great on my PC at the moment.

Martin · 08-11-2009, 09:36

I am confused.

Do you need a Humax box with a hard drive to use iplayer when it comes, or will it work on any?

Please note there is new software coming to help with the new function http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.p...re-in-november

tv.mark · 08-11-2009, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Martin

I am confused.

Do you need a Humax box with a hard drive to use iplayer when it comes, or will it work on any?

Please note there is new software coming to help with the new function http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.p...re-in-november

No, you don't need the box with the hard drive to access BBC iPlayer.

David (2) · 08-11-2009, 12:29

the Humax without the hard disc (the one we have), has the ethernet connection on the back, so it must be able to work.

chancooluk · 08-11-2009, 18:37

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Originally Posted by Martin

I am confused.

Do you need a Humax box with a hard drive to use iplayer when it comes, or will it work on any?

Please note there is new software coming to help with the new function http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.p...re-in-november

It should work on all boxes as it will be part of the red button interactive standard.

You just need to utilise the ethernet port.

gagde · 09-11-2009, 16:40

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Originally Posted by David (2)

the Humax without the hard disc (the one we have), has the ethernet connection on the back, so it must be able to work.

I would guess it would work the same way as sky player on the xbox,buffers too start then if your connection is strong would play all the way through.

Miriyo · 10-11-2009, 11:43

Great to see this is on its way.

Using a proxy server (not a free one) I can get BBC iPlayer on my PC but doubt whether I'll find a way for it to work on my Freesat HDR or can anyone suggest a way around this?

grahamlthompson · 10-11-2009, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Miriyo

Great to see this is on its way.

Using a proxy server (not a free one) I can get BBC iPlayer on my PC but doubt whether I'll find a way for it to work on my Freesat HDR or can anyone suggest a way around this?

I can't see why it won't work with the Foxsat-hdr. As far as the iplayer server's concerned you will be reporting a UK IP address

Miriyo · 10-11-2009, 12:07

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Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

I can't see why it won't work with the Foxsat-hdr. As far as the iplayer server's concerned you will be reporting a UK IP address

Will I? I'm in Munich using a local service provider for broadband and I'm assuming that BBC iPlayer content checks (at the BBC end) who/where is requesting it.

Or do you mean that the fact that it is a Freesat product means it'll work automatically?

BBC iPlayer on my UK registered Playstation doesn't work (only radio stations but no TV).

savvy · 10-11-2009, 12:26

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Originally Posted by grahamlthompson

I can't see why it won't work with the Foxsat-hdr. As far as the iplayer server's concerned you will be reporting a UK IP address

Graham,

I think Miriyo is pointing to a UK Proxy server, within his PC's browser functionality, to get iPlayer on the PC..

I don't think the HDR Network settings will let you set a Proxy.

Rgds.

Les.

lrmulli · 10-11-2009, 12:30

If you router supports it you maybe able to send all traffic through the proxy by inputting your proxy their. Some routers also have the ability to send traffic from a specific IP (the HDR's) through a proxy.

But all this is guesswork - I have experiences of proxies but not with the HDR. But generally speaking this is doable with the right routers.

Miriyo · 10-11-2009, 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by lrmulli

If you router supports it you maybe able to send all traffic through the proxy by inputting your proxy their. Some routers also have the ability to send traffic from a specific IP (the HDR's) through a proxy.

But all this is guesswork - I have experiences of proxies but not with the HDR. But generally speaking this is doable with the right routers.

Yes putting the proxy server information into my router would be the ideal solution so that my PC, laptop, Playstation and Foxsat HDR all use the same information.

The problem until now has been that the service I use prompts for a username and password and routers don't generally support this sort of thing as far as I can tell.

Anyone who can suggest a solution is welcome to PM me. I'm happy to cancel my subscription to the UK provider and go with someone else.

tsmiggy · 13-11-2009, 14:13

To be honest this as totally lost me lol.At present i have in my bedroom a Bush HD freesat connected via the HDMI lead.What would i have to do to receive iplayer when it arrives.Sorry to seem stupid lol

savvy · 13-11-2009, 14:33

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Originally Posted by tsmiggy

To be honest this as totally lost me lol.At present i have in my bedroom a Bush HD freesat connected via the HDMI lead.What would i have to do to receive iplayer when it arrives.Sorry to seem stupid lol

Have you confirmed with Bush that they are going to offer a Freesat update?

Rgds.

Les.

tsmiggy · 13-11-2009, 15:12

No i havent done anything.I just read a few comments on here,and i was interested to know how this intended to work.

cheers

savvy · 13-11-2009, 15:18

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Originally Posted by tsmiggy

No i havent done anything.I just read a few comments on here,and i was interested to know how this intended to work.

cheers

I haven't read anything about Bush doing the Freesat upgrade, but I could be wrong

Rgds.

Les.

grahamrudkin · 13-11-2009, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by savvy

I haven't read anything about Bush doing the Freesat upgrade, but I could be wrong

Rgds.

Les.

Quote:

from www.freesat.co.uk

BBC iPlayer will roll out gradually across all freesat HD digital boxes and freesat HD TVs once the service has been launched.

Therefore all freesat HD equipment will eventually receive the iPlayer update but it is unclear how long each manufacturer will take to issue the update!

Phil Owens · 16-11-2009, 17:42

So when the iPlayer rolls out on Freesat you just connect an ethernet cable from your router to the box. My router is some distance from the TV and it will mean another cable, pity it couldn't be done wireless...

BKM · 16-11-2009, 19:17

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Originally Posted by Phil Owens

So when the iPlayer rolls out on Freesat you just connect an ethernet cable from your router to the box. My router is some distance from the TV and it will mean another cable, pity it couldn't be done wireless...

Homeplug would seem ideal for this!

markcoley · 17-11-2009, 15:30

Has the beta test started yet? How is it accessed? Is there a secret colour button code like there used to be for the BBC's Wimbledon coverage before it went live?

Martin · 18-11-2009, 08:17

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Originally Posted by markcoley

Has the beta test started yet? How is it accessed? Is there a secret colour button code like there used to be for the BBC's Wimbledon coverage before it went live?

Do you think you'll get an answer if the testers have signed a confidentiality agreement?

markcoley · 18-11-2009, 08:51

The BBC loves leaks though! After all they tend to know what is happening in politics before the politicians...

If it is a simple code it would be untraceable, but if the MHEG application is coded with as many codes as there are beta testers, it would be possible to guess who may have leaked (unless the codes are similar and easily guessable). Then again the beta testers may have special software on their sets so the code wouldn't work anyway for other people.

swedish cook · 18-11-2009, 12:24

It seems improvements to the wii iplayer will beat freesat to it http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8357777.stm - existing interface using web browser is really poor for me.

We'll soon be spoilt for choice of how to access iplayer !

07-11-2009, 17:00	#1
You_mo Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,484	Iplayer Question On my PC and ipod touch, the iplayer buffers for a few seconds before playing. I'm guessing that it makes it less likely to pause on playback. Both of these devices have a hard drive/memory to buffer to. Does the freesat receiver have any sort of memory to buffer to? If not will it be more likely to pause and jump during playback?

18-11-2009, 12:24	#25
swedish cook Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 490	wii iplayer enhancements It seems improvements to the wii iplayer will beat freesat to it http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8357777.stm - existing interface using web browser is really poor for me. We'll soon be spoilt for choice of how to access iplayer !

07-11-2009, 17:39	#2
Bob_Cat Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Surrey, UK Services: BeThere and NO TV! Posts: 1,001	A set top box is much like any other embedded computer system, it has RAM and this RAM can be used for buffering. The Foxsat range has enough RAM to hold a decent buffer.

07-11-2009, 18:05	#3
You_mo Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,484	Thanks! I'm looking forward to having access to it on my TV as long as it's watchable. It works great on my PC at the moment.

08-11-2009, 09:36	#4
Martin Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Suffolk Services: Freesat Posts: 448	I am confused. Do you need a Humax box with a hard drive to use iplayer when it comes, or will it work on any? Please note there is new software coming to help with the new function http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/index.p...re-in-november

08-11-2009, 12:29	#6
David (2) Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the middle of nowhere Services: Sony Bravia LCD, Freesat-HD, Freeview HDD/DVD combi, DAB, 6.3Mb Broadband Posts: 10,447	the Humax without the hard disc (the one we have), has the ethernet connection on the back, so it must be able to work.

10-11-2009, 11:43	#9
Miriyo Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Bavaria, Germany Services: Freesat+ (Humax Foxsat HDR) with 90cm dish Posts: 246	Great to see this is on its way. Using a proxy server (not a free one) I can get BBC iPlayer on my PC but doubt whether I'll find a way for it to work on my Freesat HDR or can anyone suggest a way around this?

10-11-2009, 12:30	#13
lrmulli Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Warrington Services: Freeview (Sagem PVR), Freesat+ (HDR), TalkTalk BB Posts: 22	If you router supports it you maybe able to send all traffic through the proxy by inputting your proxy their. Some routers also have the ability to send traffic from a specific IP (the HDR's) through a proxy. But all this is guesswork - I have experiences of proxies but not with the HDR. But generally speaking this is doable with the right routers.

13-11-2009, 14:13	#15
tsmiggy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leicester Posts: 264	To be honest this as totally lost me lol.At present i have in my bedroom a Bush HD freesat connected via the HDMI lead.What would i have to do to receive iplayer when it arrives.Sorry to seem stupid lol

13-11-2009, 15:12	#17
tsmiggy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leicester Posts: 264	No i havent done anything.I just read a few comments on here,and i was interested to know how this intended to work. cheers

16-11-2009, 17:42	#20
Phil Owens Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Wrexham Services: AOL Broadband , Sky, Freeview ... Wii Number 2017 1102 3127 7409 Posts: 2,816	So when the iPlayer rolls out on Freesat you just connect an ethernet cable from your router to the box. My router is some distance from the TV and it will mean another cable, pity it couldn't be done wireless...

17-11-2009, 15:30	#22
markcoley Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 16	Has the beta test started yet? How is it accessed? Is there a secret colour button code like there used to be for the BBC's Wimbledon coverage before it went live?

18-11-2009, 08:51	#24
markcoley Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 16	The BBC loves leaks though! After all they tend to know what is happening in politics before the politicians... If it is a simple code it would be untraceable, but if the MHEG application is coded with as many codes as there are beta testers, it would be possible to guess who may have leaked (unless the codes are similar and easily guessable). Then again the beta testers may have special software on their sets so the code wouldn't work anyway for other people.