[Rita's Kabin]

Thanks to everyone who voted in Round Eleven


We have a three way tie at the top this time around with the following characters all being nominated by 31.25% of you:-

+ Alan Ellis
+ Brenda Williams
+ Katie Russell


Nobody managed a clean sweep this time around but well done to the follwing players who managed to get two out of three:-

+ dgembadgemba
+ kazzabeee
+ Muttley76



None of the evicted characters were part of anyone's Predictions on the first leaderboard so that remains unchanged.....

Prediction Leaderboard (All Characters)

01) 8 Predictions Left

+ allison_bm
+ carefactornil
+ clever chick
+ dgembadgemba
+ Eowyn W

+ GillP
+ kazzabee
+ KrisHayward
+ kp2ni
+ lolly-licker

+ Muttley 76
+ Shineyteapot
+ solamenn
+ solgang
+ syramu

+ Tigger-Roo
+ Tumpy
+ u5e10
+ Verence


20) 7 Predictions Left:

+ gogfumble


However solamenn picked Brenda Williams and Katie Russell was predicted by syramu which means:-

Prediction Leaderboard 2 (No Recurring Characters)

01) 5 Predictions Left


+ allison_bm
+ clever chick
+ dgembadgemba
+ Eowyn W
+ Muttley 76

+ Shineyteapot
+ Tumpy


09=) 4 Predictions Left

+ solgang
+ syramu
+ Tigger-Roo
+ Verence
+ u5e10


14=) 3 Predictions Left

+ gogfumble
+ kazzabee
+ KrisHayward
+ solamenn



Here's the question for this round:

What format should season four take?

Should it be:-

i) structured as season 1 & 2 were?
ii) "Event TV" as per Children Of The Earth






As with the last round you need to pick which of the four characters listed below you like the least then post your votes on this thread or send them to me via PM. The three with the most votes will be evicted from the game. If you'd like any that aren't evicted to roll forward into the next round all you need to do is type "auto" with your votes & any that have Survived will automatically roll forward into the next round. In the event of a tie-break cumulative votes will be taken into account.


So, it's on with the game then. Time to pick your four least favourite characters from:-



Recurring

01) Captain Jack Harkness (John Barrowman)
02) Gwen Cooper (Eve Myles)
03) Toshiko Sato (Naoko Mori)
04) Ianto Jones (Gareth David-Lloyd)
05) Rhys Williams (Kai Owen)

06) Owen Harper (Burn Gorman)
07) PC Andy Davies (Tom Price)
08) Suzie Costello (Indira Varma)
09) Bilis Manger(Murray Melvin)
10) Captain John Hart (James Marsters)

11) Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman)
12) Little Girl (Skye Bennett)


Series 1

13) Small Worlds: Estelle (Eve Pearce)
14) Small Worlds: Jasmine Pierce (Lara Phillipart)
15) Countrycide: Evan Sherman (Owen Teale)
16) Out of Time: Emma (Olivia Hallinan)
17) Out of Time: John Ellis (Mark Lewis Jones)

18) Captain Jack Harkness: Captain Jack Harkness ~ The Captain (Matt Rippy)


Series 2

19) Sleeper: Beth Hallaran (Nikki Amuka-Bird)
20) To the Last Man: Tommy Brockless (Anthony Lewis)
21) Reset: Aaron Copley (Alan Dale)
22) A Day in the Death: Henry Parker (Richard Briers)
23) Adrift: Nikki Bevan (Ruth Jones)

24) Fragments: Emily Holroyd (Heather Craney)
25) Fragments: Alice Guppy (Amy Manson)
26) Fragments: Alex Hopkins (Julian Lewis Jones)


Series 3

27) John Frobisher (Peter Capaldi)
28) Clement McDonald (Paul Copley)
29) Brian Green (Nicholas Farrell)
30) Bridget Spears (Susan Brown)
31) Alice Carter (Lucy Cohu)

32) Steven Carter(Bear McCausland)
33) Lois Habiba (Cush Jumbo)
34) Johnson (Liz May Brice)
35) General Pierce (Colin McFarlane)
36) Denise Riley (Deborah Findlay)

37) Rick Yates (Nicholas Briggs)
38) Colonal Oduya (Charles Abomeli)
39) Rupesa Patanjai (Rik Makarem)
40) Rhiannon Davies (Katy Wix)
41) Johnny Davies (Rhodri Lewis)

42) Anna Frobisher (Hilary Maclean)



The deadline for your votes for this round is 8pm on Wednesday 12th November

[Muttley76]

aww, a bit sad about Alan, even though I was going to vote for him soon, but his brief role in Out of Time really touches my soul, especially given my grandmother died of Alzheimer's earlier this year...

old votes:

Emily Holroyd (Heather Craney)
Alice Guppy (Amy Manson)

new votes:

Emma (Olivia Hallinan) - to me she was more in the background than the other two out of timers
Alex Hopkins (Julian Lewis Jones) - I think it was a lovely cameo part, but now we are getting down to more significant characters for me.

[Verence]

13) Small Worlds: Estelle (Eve Pearce)
14) Small Worlds: Jasmine Pierce (Lara Phillipart)
41) Johnny Davies (Rhodri Lewis)
42) Anna Frobisher (Hilary Maclean)



I think the next series of Torchwood should be like 1&2

[Muttley76]

as usual i missed the question.

I think CoE proved that Torchwood works best as event tv. However I'd like to be greedy and ask for two events rather than one!

It's funny actually, cause i wasn't happy about the idea of one story over five episodes initially, but it just worked so well, primarily because it gave them the room to really create strong characters. Series 1 and 2 have some very good characters, don't get me wrong, but they equally suffer from some of the supporting cast to being very thinly painted characters. Look at the results here so far and you see that the supporting cast from series 3 is almost still fully intact. That says something to me.

[Eowyn W]

12) Little Girl (Skye Bennett)
19) Sleeper: Beth Hallaran (Nikki Amuka-Bird)
21) Reset: Aaron Copley (Alan Dale)
26) Fragments: Alex Hopkins (Julian Lewis Jones)

This is getting way too difficult for my liking!

[kazzabeee]

Wow – my name in lights at long last! I shall enjoy it for as long as it lasts!

My votes for this round are:

Countrycide: Evan Sherman (Owen Teale)
A Day in the Death: Henry Parker (Richard Briers)
Fragments: Alex Hopkins (Julian Lewis Jones)
Rupesa Patanjai (Rik Makarem)

As for this round’s question, I think I would prefer series 4 to be structured as series 1 and 2 were then maybe go for event TV for series 5. That would allow series 4 to build up new characters/team members.

[KrisHayward]

A Day in the Death: Henry Parker
Fragments: Alex Hopkins
General Pierce
Anna Frobisher

[clever chick]

67) General Pierce (Colin McFarlane)
18) Small Worlds: Estelle (Eve Pearce)
19) Small Worlds: Jasmine Pierce (Jasmine Pierce)

70) Colonal Oduya (Charles Abomeli)

As for the question I agree with Muttley, I would prefer it structured like CoE but to have two of them

[Solamenn]

I'm really bad at this prediction game
Here are my votes, thanks Rita !

16) Out of Time: Emma (Olivia Hallinan)
23) Adrift: Nikki Bevan (Ruth Jones)
26) Fragments: Alex Hopkins (Julian Lewis Jones)
38) Colonal Oduya (Charles Abomeli)

[syramu]

Same:

10) Captain John Hart (James Marsters)

23) Adrift: Nikki Bevan (Ruth Jones)

18) Captain Jack Harkness: Captain Jack Harkness ~ The Captain (Matt Rippy)

01) Captain Jack Harkness (John Barrowman)

I liked the depth we got with the story in CoE and how we got more of a view into the secondary characters. Maybe they could have series 4 be the same length as 1 and 2 but have multiple episodes for the stories - 2 and 3 parters. I would like the storytelling quality of 3 but the length of 1 and 2.

[Gill P]

I am not doing very well in this so will pass from now on. Keep up the good work though and I will be interested in the outcome.

[Muttley76]

Originally Posted by Gill P

I am not doing very well in this so will pass from now on. Keep up the good work though and I will be interested in the outcome.

Don't give up, Gill, I once went something like six rounds without getting any of my picks elminated!

[carefactornil]

Still:
Colonal Oduya
A Day in the Death: Henry Parker
Fragments: Emily Holroyd

New:
Anna Frobisher (Hilary Maclean)


Question is another good one RK! I'm with John Barrowman's on this. I think another year with only 5 episodes would be criminal. It has to be a full set, 13 is fine. I like the idea of a season "theme". I think the Captain John / Gray storyline was excellent in a lot of ways, even if it was a bit botched in execution. But I think rather than have say 2 big stories last a week each, it should be a bit more like Who. Some standalone episodes (plenty of them worked beautifully for me, Countrycide, Adrift, Sleeper, To the Last Man) and then a few multi-part stories too. I'd like to see a 3-parter rather than the Who standard of just 1 or 2 part stories, although arguably, both S1 & S2 had a 2-part season end story. In some ways I feel that CoE was stretched out a bit, especially in the first couple of episodes, so it could have been a bit shorter.

[carefactornil]

Originally Posted by Gill P

I am not doing very well in this so will pass from now on. Keep up the good work though and I will be interested in the outcome.

I agree with Muttley! Don't give up - whilst there's a competitive edge and some of us get WAAAY too excited at the sight of our "name in lights", the more votes there are the more interesting the game! Besides - I don't think you'd be waiting any longer to change votes than captain-o-phobic syramu!

[dgembadgemba]

From last round
17) Out of Time: John Ellis
39) Denise Riley

new
24) Emily Holroyd
25) Alice Guppy

As for the question I have to agree with Muttley

I think the "event" format suited torchwood as it upped the tension and drama, however i too would like 2 of these (or even 3 )

[Tumpy]

Originally Posted by Gill P

I am not doing very well in this so will pass from now on. Keep up the good work though and I will be interested in the outcome.

Hey come on Gill. I haven't done well recently but not giving up. Got to protect my predictions!

12) Little Girl (Skye Bennett)
21) Reset: Aaron Copley (Alan Dale)
42) Anna Frobisher (Hilary Maclean)
38) Colonal Oduya (Charles Abomeli)

Question not really bothered about format but tend to agree with Muttley. I just want it back,

[kazzabeee]

Originally Posted by Gill P

I am not doing very well in this so will pass from now on. Keep up the good work though and I will be interested in the outcome.

Maybe you could PM your votes instead of on the thread that way no-one else will know how you've voted - apart from RK of course.

I only took part in part of the Classic survivor, ie the prediction part and waited for the top 10 before I started PMing my votes. You might find it easier to vote later on when there's less choice.

Regards
Karen

[lolly-licker]

I don't really know the characters well enough to properly vote but I'll answer the question as long as that's OK?
I think s4 should be event tv- series 3 took Torchwood out of the "silly" genre I'd have placed it in before (with the exception of s2's Exit Wounds) and gave us the darkness I've been longing for in DW. Some fantastic acting- I could really connect with characters and feel the fear they felt. EVENT TV FTW

[Tigger-Roo]

From round 10


12) Little Girl (Skye Bennett)
21) Reset: Aaron Copley (Alan Dale)
24) Fragments: Emily Holroyd (Heather Craney)

New one:

25) Fragments: Alice Guppy (Amy Manson)

Thanks RK

[Shinyteapot]

Missed the last round. Curse work for getting in the way

Round 10:
22) A Day in the Death: Henry Parker (Richard Briers)
24) Fragments: Emily Holroyd (Heather Craney)

New:
25) Fragments: Alice Guppy (Amy Manson)- Nothing against her particularly but she didn't make as much impact as the other characters remaining
26) Fragments: Alex Hopkins (Julian Lewis Jones)- Likewise, though I thought he was the most interesting of the past Torchwood agents

As for the question, there's no denying Children of Earth worked extremely well. The only thing that would worry me is how to follow it- it would be very difficult to keep pulling off stories on that scale, and to make them believable one after another. If it can be done, 'event tv' like that would be great- but I agree with the general sentiment that 5 episodes is not enough, make the 'event' longer (or have a series with one story throughout) or have more than one miniseries.

[Macek]

14) Small Worlds: Jasmine Pierce (Lara Phillipart)
26) Fragments: Alex Hopkins (Julian Lewis Jones)
35) General Pierce (Colin McFarlane)
38) Colonal Oduya (Charles Abomeli)