BBC owned by the Public and for the Public?? - Broadcasting

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 05:34

I am researching about making a television programme and checked out the BBC's website about submitting programmes. Apparently if you are a member of the public you are unable to submit programme content

here is what they say quoted from their site:-

This site is produced by TV Commissioning, which is an area of the BBC that commissions programmes from producers but does not make programmes itself. We therefore are unable to accept programme submissions directly from the public.

I thought the public owned the BBC?

molliepops · 09-11-2009, 08:54

Well they do they just don't make any programming though so sending in a programme would be a waste of their and your time.

Inkblot · 09-11-2009, 09:07

It's the word "commissioning" that's the clue here. Commissioning means they negotiate with producers who want to make programmes for the BBC. They may watch programmes submitted by independent producers to assess their suitability for inclusion in future schedules, but they don't accept unsolicited programmes from members of the public.

onefineday · 09-11-2009, 09:13

Try Community Channel?

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 09:17

Yes I was labouring under the misapprehension that the BBC was a public service channel

jojo01 · 09-11-2009, 09:19

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Originally Posted by EmmaActual

Yes I was labouring under the misapprehension that the BBC was a public service channel

Ha ha. Imagine if the Beeb had to show every bit of tat that random members of the public wanted them to show, they wouldn't get many viewers!

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 09:21

well that would give them some work to do wouldn't it? other having all the business lunches, but I suppose they have to save their pennies to pay Wrossie and their ilk their salaries, but also it could create more jobs couldn't it?

Also other "large" media corporations allow members of the public to submit material am thinking of the Sun who say "ave you got a story"

Sigurd · 09-11-2009, 09:23

From a BBC page:

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Got an Idea for a new Programme or Format?

When it comes to unsolicited ideas from individuals outside the BBC (or from abroad), they need to work with an independent production company or a BBC Production department to get their ideas to the screen.

The development and production of a programme is a complex process, needing an in-depth understanding of the television system and involving many people as well as the creator of the original concept. Working with an independent production company or (in some areas) a production department provides this support.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/commissioning/t...k/public.shtml

See the above page and others linked to it for more information.

jojo01 · 09-11-2009, 09:26

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Originally Posted by EmmaActual

well that would give them some work to do wouldn't it? other having all the business lunches, but I suppose they have to save their pennies to pay Wrossie and their ilk their salaries, but also it could create more jobs couldn't it?

No, because if all they had to do was broadcast the public's tat, about 97% of the jobs would no longer be required.

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 09:28

I have already read it Sigurd its not really appropriate to the thread please read the title post.

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 09:29

Jo-Jo

ha, ha, and yes no-one would watch it either!! but at least it would be for "the public" lol

mildredhubble · 09-11-2009, 09:30

I think this has got to be one of the funniest, serious type thread I've read for a while.

jojo01 · 09-11-2009, 09:31

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Originally Posted by EmmaActual

ha, ha, and yes no-one would watch it either!! but at least it would be for "the public" lol

What makes you think it isn't already for the public? Just because you can't submit your programme idea directly to them?

Sigurd · 09-11-2009, 09:32

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Originally Posted by EmmaActual

I have already read it Sigurd its not really appropriate to the thread please read the title post.

Please read the page more carefully. It is perfectly possible for a member of the public to submit a script or programme idea provided that they go about it in the right way. It is therefore misleading of you to say, "Apparently if you are a member of the public you are unable to submit programme content."

Anyway, I'll leave you to your thread.

Inkblot · 09-11-2009, 09:36

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Originally Posted by EmmaActual

I was labouring under the misapprehension that the BBC was a public service channel

Fair enough - you were doing some research, you now realise that your initial assumption was wrong. But why start a thread before you know all the facts?

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 09:38

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Originally Posted by Inkblot

Fair enough - you were doing some research, you now realise that your initial assumption was wrong. But why start a thread before you know all the facts?

Do you not undertand the meaning of tongue in cheek Inkblot, I am sure Google will help you out!!

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 09:40

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Originally Posted by mildredhubble

I think this has got to be one of the funniest, serious type thread I've read for a while.

thanks Mildredhubble, I am glad to oblige!!

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 09:41

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Originally Posted by jojo01

What makes you think it isn't already for the public? Just because you can't submit your programme idea directly to them?

Yes but a member of the public cannot make a submission directly to a public service company.....

jojo01 · 09-11-2009, 09:45

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Originally Posted by EmmaActual

Yes but a member of the public cannot make a submission directly to a public service company.....

See Sigurd's post #14.

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 09:46

I have Jo-Jo thanks and that is why I rest my case!!!

slow motion · 09-11-2009, 09:53

"BBC owned by the Public and for the Public??"

You wish!

Owned by government isn't the same as owned by the Public.

I think the other public service broadcaster Channel Four is more accepting of public submitted programme content.

At the moment there is this promotion:

We Want Your 3D Magic

EmmaActual · 09-11-2009, 09:55

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Originally Posted by slow motion

"BBC owned by the Public and for the Public??"

You wish!

Owned by government isn't the same as owned by the Public.

I think the other public service broadcaster Channel Four is more accepting of public submitted programme content.

At the moment there is this promotion:

We Want Your 3D Magic

Thank goodness for Slowmotion

Mikeandhersonq · 09-11-2009, 10:07

I thought the public submits to agencies who go to studios who submit to the BBC Commissioning department, or has the world gone topsy again?

Vertigo93 · 09-11-2009, 10:17

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Originally Posted by slow motion

"BBC owned by the Public and for the Public??"

You wish!

Owned by government isn't the same as owned by the Public.

I think the other public service broadcaster Channel Four is more accepting of public submitted programme content.

At the moment there is this promotion:

We Want Your 3D Magic

In any reasonable Universe, do you honestly think soliciting clips of between 10-15 seconds is in any way comparable with commissioning an entire series?

And do you think that the BBC should make any or every idea sent in by the public as a matter of course?

Paul02 · 09-11-2009, 10:37

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Originally Posted by Mikeandhersonq

I thought the public submits to agencies who go to studios who submit to the BBC Commissioning department, or has the world gone topsy again?

Don't know where you got that idea.

The BBC is allowed to make up to 75% of the programmes they broadcast- it's only with independent productions that an agency has to be involved.

On the subject of the thread- 'tongue in cheek' or not- the BBC used to have a Community Programme Unit which allowed members of the public to make their own half hour programmes in short run series- under the title 'Open Door' and then 'Open Space'. Later, similar, but very short community programmes- often just 'talking heads'- were broadcast under the title 'Video Nation'. The Community Programme Unit closed in 2004, but had been limping along, due to cuts, for more than a decade.

09-11-2009, 09:29	#11
EmmaActual Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Galactica Services: 02, BT, Freeview Posts: 334	Jo-Jo ha, ha, and yes no-one would watch it either!! but at least it would be for "the public" lol Last edited by EmmaActual : 09-11-2009 at 09:30. Reason: forgot to quote Jo-Jo

09-11-2009, 09:53	#21
slow motion Forum Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,223	BBC owned by the Public and for the Public?? "BBC owned by the Public and for the Public??" You wish! Owned by government isn't the same as owned by the Public. I think the other public service broadcaster Channel Four is more accepting of public submitted programme content. At the moment there is this promotion: We Want Your 3D Magic

09-11-2009, 05:34	#1
EmmaActual Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Galactica Services: 02, BT, Freeview Posts: 334	BBC owned by the Public and for the Public?? I am researching about making a television programme and checked out the BBC's website about submitting programmes. Apparently if you are a member of the public you are unable to submit programme content here is what they say quoted from their site:- This site is produced by TV Commissioning, which is an area of the BBC that commissions programmes from producers but does not make programmes itself. We therefore are unable to accept programme submissions directly from the public. I thought the public owned the BBC?

09-11-2009, 08:54	#2
molliepops Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: woking Services: sky, bt Posts: 2,454	Well they do they just don't make any programming though so sending in a programme would be a waste of their and your time.

09-11-2009, 09:07	#3
Inkblot Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: West London Services: Sky+; ADSL; Apples'n'iPears Posts: 12,733	It's the word "commissioning" that's the clue here. Commissioning means they negotiate with producers who want to make programmes for the BBC. They may watch programmes submitted by independent producers to assess their suitability for inclusion in future schedules, but they don't accept unsolicited programmes from members of the public.

09-11-2009, 09:13	#4
onefineday Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,649	Try Community Channel?

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EmmaActual Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Galactica Services: 02, BT, Freeview Posts: 334	Yes I was labouring under the misapprehension that the BBC was a public service channel

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EmmaActual Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Galactica Services: 02, BT, Freeview Posts: 334	well that would give them some work to do wouldn't it? other having all the business lunches, but I suppose they have to save their pennies to pay Wrossie and their ilk their salaries, but also it could create more jobs couldn't it? Also other "large" media corporations allow members of the public to submit material am thinking of the Sun who say "ave you got a story"

09-11-2009, 09:28	#10
EmmaActual Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Galactica Services: 02, BT, Freeview Posts: 334	I have already read it Sigurd its not really appropriate to the thread please read the title post.

09-11-2009, 09:30	#12
mildredhubble Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Services: Can't be a Virgin anymore :( Posts: 2,132	I think this has got to be one of the funniest, serious type thread I've read for a while.

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EmmaActual Inactive Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Galactica Services: 02, BT, Freeview Posts: 334	I have Jo-Jo thanks and that is why I rest my case!!!

09-11-2009, 10:07	#23
Mikeandhersonq Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 528	I thought the public submits to agencies who go to studios who submit to the BBC Commissioning department, or has the world gone topsy again?