[robtuk06]

Just been having a look at the newspapers websites and there seems to be little bad press about John & Edward (which is good).

Is there any bad stuff I have missed? Everyone is concentrating on Simons decision rather than them.

[ellenpagerocks]

As I said people are angry at Cowell, not at the Twins

[Strictly_Irish]

Originally Posted by robtuk06

Just been having a look at the newspapers websites and there seems to be little bad press about John & Edward (which is good).

Is there any bad stuff I have missed? Everyone is concentrating on Simons decision rather than them.

Thank goodness for that. It's not even their fault a little bit.

[mitacond]

I agree it is not the twins fault at all they had nothing to do with the situation.

Lucie went because her fans thought she would be ok.

[Phoebica]

Originally Posted by ellenpagerocks

As I said people are angry at Cowell, not at the Twins

Yeah people are angry at Simon because he didn't do what they should have done - vote for Lucie!

[Strictly_Irish]

Originally Posted by mitacond

I agree it is not the twins fault at all they had nothing to do with the situation.

Lucie went because her fans thought she would be ok.

Or because some people thought her voice was pitchy and irritating.

[mitacond]

Originally Posted by Phoebica

Yeah people are angry at Simon because he didn't do what they should have done - vote for Lucie!

I agree - I voted for her because I thought she did really well and I am not a fan.

[cr120575]

Lucie went due to Simon being a complete hypocrite, going back on 4 weeks worth of the twins can't sing comments, comments about him leaving the country if they won, and comments that his decision would be based on the sing off song.

Yes, Lucie was in the bottom two, but Simon had the power to save the better vocalist in what in his own words is "a singing competition". He chose not to save her.

That is why the bad press is about Simon, no-one blams J&E.

[ellenpagerocks]

It's not just Lucie fans who are angry it's all the jedward haters out there but they as well seem to be taking their anger out on Cowell

[mitacond]

Originally Posted by Strictly_Irish

Or because some people thought her voice was pitchy and irritating.

Irish I gave her a vote because I liked the song. Obviously I might have been the only one who thought so. I never vote for anyone but my fav., normally. It did not do any good.

I am suprised as SC said she would be the last Female on the show.

[Phoebica]

Originally Posted by cr120575

Lucie went due to Simon being a complete hypocrite, going back on 4 weeks worth of the twins can't sing comments, comments about him leaving the country if they won, and comments that his decision would be based on the sing off song.

Yes, Lucie was in the bottom two, but Simon had the power to save the better vocalist in what in his own words is "a singing competition". He chose not to save her.

That is why the bad press is about Simon, no-one blams J&E.

Lucie went because she didn't recieve enough votes from her so called fans!

[mitacond]

Originally Posted by cr120575

Lucie went due to Simon being a complete hypocrite, going back on 4 weeks worth of the twins can't sing comments, comments about him leaving the country if they won, and comments that his decision would be based on the sing off song.

Yes, Lucie was in the bottom two, but Simon had the power to save the better vocalist in what in his own words is "a singing competition". He chose not to save her.

That is why the bad press is about Simon, no-one blams J&E.

Lucie would never have been in the position she was had she had enough votes. I know it is hard but she had the lowest votes and it is votes that count.

[spkx]

Huh? The story is on the front page of The Sun, Mirror, Daily Star, Metro and Express plus Cheryl/X Factor are on the front page of the Daily Mail

[xvoguex]

I don't get why everyone is up in arms.

4 Weeks people have vote John and Edward so they wouldn't be in the bottom two, and we have lost acts that could of been really good.

Looks to me like Simon has given the public a taste of there of medicine.

I think this could however back fire on him at a later stage with one of his acts.

[robtuk06]

Originally Posted by spkx

Huh? The story is on the front page of The Sun, Mirror, Daily Star, Metro and Express plus Cheryl/X Factor are on the front page of the Daily Mail

Nobody said it wasn't. Did you read the OP?

[ballyclark]

Originally Posted by cr120575

Lucie went due to Simon being a complete hypocrite, going back on 4 weeks worth of the twins can't sing comments, comments about him leaving the country if they won, and comments that his decision would be based on the sing off song.

Yes, Lucie was in the bottom two, but Simon had the power to save the better vocalist in what in his own words is "a singing competition". He chose not to save her.

That is why the bad press is about Simon, no-one blams J&E.

That sums it up nicely.

If there is any justice one of his acts will be up against the Twins next week & Dannii will send it to a public vote with his act bottom, Danyl would be my choice.

I have nothing against Danyl but I am no longer interested in who wins as clearly Cowell just wants viewers.

My scenario would be another talking point for him

[Simon Cow]

Originally Posted by Phoebica

Lucie went because she didn't recieve enough votes from her so called fans!

THE point that is continually missed or deliberately ignored.

They dislike it as it didn't go their way in a fair competition.

They wanted Simon to step in and throw out the act that wasn't last.

Yes! That really is the bottom line: They are upset as they actually wanted unfairness at any cost as it suited them!

Typical!

[cr120575]

Phoebica/mitacond :-

Then why bother having a sing off and wasting half an hour of everyones lives. Just have it on the public vote and do away with the judges decision!

[KateH77]

I'm not angry at the twins, I actually feel a little sorry for them!

[LazySusan]

Originally Posted by mitacond

I am suprised as SC said she would be the last Female on the show.

I thought it was Louis who said that, but whoever it was combined with Simon saying that Stacey was vulnerable I think made people think Stacey was vulnerable and Lucie was safe. Therefore they voted for Stacey and poor Lucie suffered. Simon has a knack of manipulating the votes.

[xvoguex]

Originally Posted by cr120575

Phoebica/mitacond :-

Then why bother having a sing off and wasting half an hour of everyones lives. Just have it on the public vote and do away with the judges decision!

If the public wanted to save Lucie she should of been the sing of in the first place.

Regardless of the Judges decision

[cathay]

The purpose of the judges having the final say in a sing-off is to choose the better singer form the 2 who received the least votes.

X Factor is NOT an audition for Butlins - there is a £1 million contract at the end. Simon claiming he couldn't decide which act to send home basically told the public he wouldn't mind giving the twins the million £ contract - let's all vote for the twins so they win - and we damage Simon's and the XF reputations! He deserves it!

[Simon Cow]

Originally Posted by cr120575

Phoebica/mitacond :-

Then why bother having a sing off and wasting half an hour of everyones lives. Just have it on the public vote and do away with the judges decision!

Obviously because Simon want to keep control: He wants in on the vote when he wants and out of the vote when it gets too hot.

IMO there should be judges comments only when we get to the "Live stages" of the competition.

We are getting taken of mugs where we spend are money, but they STILL have the final say so. That is wrong and has always been wrong.

Just send home the act with the fewest votes as that is fair: You have pain you monies and that is the result.

But you have seen how much control Simon wants by the way he has forced Danyl on everyone and that has caused him more problems than he has caused himself.

But until they totally change the format and take away the judges vote, the sing off needs to be their as the judges might want to actually judge in one or two shows where they want to abuse their power and change the result. And deadlock also need to be there just in case it's a split vote. Sadly Simon is abusing Deadlock for a purpose it was never designed for.

I would imagine big changes next year.

[Phoebica]

Originally Posted by cr120575

Phoebica/mitacond :-

Then why bother having a sing off and wasting half an hour of everyones lives. Just have it on the public vote and do away with the judges decision!

I agree. That seems to be the only solution, get rid of the sing off and let the public decide as they have been doing for the past month. The result would still have been exactly the same though, so who would the Lucie fans who didn't vote blame then? Couldn't blame Simon.

[cr120575]

Originally Posted by Simon Cow

Obviously because Simon want to keep control: He wants in on the vote when he wants and out of the vote when it gets too hot.

IMO there should be judges comments only when we get to the "Live stages" of the competition.

We are getting taken of mugs where we spend are money, but they STILL have the final say so. That is wrong and has always been wrong.

Just send home the act with the fewest votes as that is fair: You have pain you monies and that is the result.

But you have seen how much control Simon wants by the way he has forced Danyl on everyone and that has caused him more problems than he has caused himself.

But until they totally change the format and take away the judges vote, the sing off needs to be their as the judges might want to actually judge in one or two shows where they want to abuse their power and change the result. And deadlock also need to be there just in case it's a split vote. Sadly Simon is abusing Deadlock for a purpose it was never designed for.

I would imagine big changes next year.

That is precisely why the judges vote is there, and precisely why the papers today show Simon for being the hypocrite that he is. He has turned the show into a complete joke.