France v Ireland world cup playoff - Broadcasting

erneboy · 09-11-2009, 13:18

France v Ireland world cup playoff in paris 18 NOv 2009.

I know the first leg is live on rte 2 and sky sports, but will the 2ed leg be shown live in the uk any one know ??

thanks

The Wanderer · 09-11-2009, 13:31

It hasn't been decided yet AFAIK

Whoever is in charge of selling the rights is apparently asking for silly money

Akilduff · 09-11-2009, 13:56

Here's an Evening Herald report from last week, but with the disclaimer that one million was the actual asking price for the Turkey-Ireland play-off in 1999 from Star TV.

TF1 generally show the French international matches in France (the home ones at least), but the play-off game in Dublin has been bought by M6, and according to the report, paid four million Euros for the honour.

ariusuk · 09-11-2009, 14:12

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Originally Posted by The Wanderer

It hasn't been decided yet AFAIK

Whoever is in charge of selling the rights is apparently asking for silly money

I think they are actually disappointed by the level of interest, rather than asking silly money.

The price I've heard quoted is reasonable value for a terrestrial or premium satellite sports channel (assuming there isn't a landslide victory in the first leg).

hard_to_beat · 09-11-2009, 14:29

I reckon the French are waiting to see what happens in the first leg, and paradoxically hoping the tie is still alive for the 2nd leg.

david04121980 · 09-11-2009, 16:03

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Originally Posted by ariusuk

I think they are actually disappointed by the level of interest, rather than asking silly money.

The price I've heard quoted is reasonable value for a terrestrial or premium satellite sports channel (assuming there isn't a landslide victory in the first leg).

I as yet don't know what is on ITV for that Wednesday, but are or would ITV be interested in the match or is it a case of wait and see???

ariusuk · 09-11-2009, 16:39

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Originally Posted by david04121980

I as yet don't know what is on ITV for that Wednesday, but are or would ITV be interested in the match or is it a case of wait and see???

ITV would have been interested but I'm A Celebrity... means there is nowhere to show the game.

Zac Quinn · 09-11-2009, 17:36

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Originally Posted by ariusuk

ITV would have been interested but I'm A Celebrity... means there is nowhere to show the game.

Could you not cancel IAC that night? I seem to remember that it was cancelled one night during the run last year because of a football match (although there were probably contractual obligations giving you no choice, to be fair).

ariusuk · 09-11-2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by Zac Quinn

Could you not cancel IAC that night? I seem to remember that it was cancelled one night during the run last year because of a football match

No, it wasn't cancelled last year. It was scheduled around the football last year.

The schedule is fixed now.

rezzer · 09-11-2009, 18:26

It's on Setanta Ireland. Do you think they'll broadcast in the clear or will it be scrambled?

Akilduff · 09-11-2009, 18:27

If the appalling translation is to be believed, the French Federation bid for the rights to the first leg in Dublin on behalf of TF1, were outbid and are now rather miffed.

You can read it in its originalFrench too.

Servicetech 1 · 09-11-2009, 18:32

I hope both legs,are broadcast on RTE2.

david04121980 · 09-11-2009, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariusuk

ITV would have been interested but I'm A Celebrity... means there is nowhere to show the game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zac Quinn

Could you not cancel IAC that night? I seem to remember that it was cancelled one night during the run last year because of a football match (although there were probably contractual obligations giving you no choice, to be fair).

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Originally Posted by ariusuk

No, it wasn't cancelled last year. It was scheduled around the football last year.

The schedule is fixed now.

How about ITV4 then? I believe the match would start at 7.45 UK time. I think it will be a winner all round unless the right holders offer the match at a stupid high price!

Come on Arius talk to the people who know at ITV and get the game!!!!!

ariusuk · 09-11-2009, 19:52

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Originally Posted by david04121980

How about ITV4 then?

It's definitely too expensive for ITV4!

GeorgeS · 09-11-2009, 19:57

Its the sort of game that would suit five?

krooney · 09-11-2009, 20:25

Sky Sports shows Ireland matches for anyone here who doesn't like the banter on RTE2 a la Eamon Dunphy and his 'libelous comments'. There is of course plenty of Irish ex-pats in Britain who would benefit from Sky Sports coverage.

Sky Sports and FAI have a deal and if I was the governing body I'd be raging at Sky Sports not showing the 2nd leg at the moment.

That is in case the 1st goes belly-up from our perspective. Talk about loyalty - I assume Sky Sports/Murdoch wouldn't know the dictionary meaning of the word!

So it's RTE2/Sky Sports for the 1st leg on Saturday night and Setanta Ireland for the 2nd leg on Wednesday week - I wouldn't be surprised if TV3 picked up the free-to-air package for the Stade De France leg.

And the last time they showed us WE drew with San Marino under the 'genius' that is Steve Staunton. Better luck against the French - they are a shadow of the 1998/2000 sides.

And Raymond Domenech wouldn't be fit to tie Giovanni Trappatoni's shoe-laces!!!

After all, he is the coach who picks players by their star signs (Robert Pires)!!!!

The disaster that is Domenech will be the French down-fall against us Irish - and the FFF won't keep him in a job after that.

We made it in 1994 and the French didn't - WILL happen again!!

krooney · 09-11-2009, 20:29

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Originally Posted by david04121980

I as yet don't know what is on ITV for that Wednesday, but are or would ITV be interested in the match or is it a case of wait and see???

They'd never show a match involving teams outside the UK unless it is the EC/WC.

EmilioLargo · 09-11-2009, 20:43

How about an RTE/BBC joint bid?

The game cannot be shown exclusively on pay TV in Ireland anyway so it might make sense for them to bump up the offer price by bidding with the BBC.

It would not sell any more pay TV subs in the UK at this short notice so there seems no point in ESPN or Sky bidding. In the past RTE have been able to pick up some sport cheaply curtesy of the BBC buying UK rights (also shown in ROI) and RTE coming in later wiith a complimentary offer so maybe RTE and the BBc will do a complimentary bid?

Five might have a look (maybe with TV3?).

If they cant sell the game in the UK I suppose Europort will show the match as they have shown a lot of France home games in the past (when they are not playing UK teams).

krooney · 09-11-2009, 20:45

So long as it's shown on some channel we''ll not be left with an internet stream a la Ukraine vs England.

david04121980 · 09-11-2009, 22:24

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Originally Posted by krooney

So long as it's shown on some channel we''ll not be left with an internet stream a la Ukraine vs England.

Here, here

Nigel82 · 09-11-2009, 22:54

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Originally Posted by krooney

They'd never show a match involving teams outside the UK unless it is the EC/WC.

They'd never show a match involving teams outside England unless it is the EC/WC.

erneboy · 11-11-2009, 20:50

2ed leg will be on RTE 2, not shure abouth UK coverage

the-konformist · 11-11-2009, 21:32

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Originally Posted by erneboy

2ed leg will be on RTE 2, not shure abouth UK coverage

As sure as I can be that this is wrong. No deal has been done for the second leg. First leg is on RTE 2 and SKY Sports in the UK.

EmilioLargo · 13-11-2009, 23:06

Looks like RTE/SKY, I looked the other day and there was nothing.

Under the Sport on TV section of the RTE website it now says World Cup Playoff (To be confirmed)

The Sky EPG has 7:30pm: Football TBA

Akilduff · 16-11-2009, 17:45

The Irish Examiner ran an update today - still no progress.

Rest assured if RTE get the rights, it'll be brought to the greatest public attention possible. They'll probably interrupt all scheduling and it'll be top story in the news...

09-11-2009, 13:18	#1
erneboy Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 26	France v Ireland world cup playoff France v Ireland world cup playoff in paris 18 NOv 2009. I know the first leg is live on rte 2 and sky sports, but will the 2ed leg be shown live in the uk any one know ?? thanks

09-11-2009, 13:31	#2
The Wanderer Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: South Yorkshire Services: Freeview (selected channels), Sky Player (Sports Pack and ESPN) Posts: 1,583	It hasn't been decided yet AFAIK Whoever is in charge of selling the rights is apparently asking for silly money

09-11-2009, 13:56	#3
Akilduff Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,523	Here's an Evening Herald report from last week, but with the disclaimer that one million was the actual asking price for the Turkey-Ireland play-off in 1999 from Star TV. TF1 generally show the French international matches in France (the home ones at least), but the play-off game in Dublin has been bought by M6, and according to the report, paid four million Euros for the honour.

09-11-2009, 14:29	#5
hard_to_beat Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,349	I reckon the French are waiting to see what happens in the first leg, and paradoxically hoping the tie is still alive for the 2nd leg.

09-11-2009, 18:26	#10
rezzer Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2	It's on Setanta Ireland. Do you think they'll broadcast in the clear or will it be scrambled?

09-11-2009, 18:27	#11
Akilduff Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,523	If the appalling translation is to be believed, the French Federation bid for the rights to the first leg in Dublin on behalf of TF1, were outbid and are now rather miffed. You can read it in its originalFrench too.

09-11-2009, 18:32	#12
Servicetech 1 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Wales Coast Services: Winter Hill,Kippure(RTE1&2),Sky,Freesat&BT Broadband Posts: 213	I hope both legs,are broadcast on RTE2.

09-11-2009, 19:57	#15
GeorgeS Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Services: NTL, BT Broadband Posts: 7,549	Its the sort of game that would suit five?

09-11-2009, 20:25	#16
krooney Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: County Down Services: Tiscali, Telefis Eireann, TV3, Freeview, ESPN, DAB/Internet Radio, PS3 Posts: 353	Sky Sports shows Ireland matches for anyone here who doesn't like the banter on RTE2 a la Eamon Dunphy and his 'libelous comments'. There is of course plenty of Irish ex-pats in Britain who would benefit from Sky Sports coverage. Sky Sports and FAI have a deal and if I was the governing body I'd be raging at Sky Sports not showing the 2nd leg at the moment. That is in case the 1st goes belly-up from our perspective. Talk about loyalty - I assume Sky Sports/Murdoch wouldn't know the dictionary meaning of the word! So it's RTE2/Sky Sports for the 1st leg on Saturday night and Setanta Ireland for the 2nd leg on Wednesday week - I wouldn't be surprised if TV3 picked up the free-to-air package for the Stade De France leg. And the last time they showed us WE drew with San Marino under the 'genius' that is Steve Staunton. Better luck against the French - they are a shadow of the 1998/2000 sides. And Raymond Domenech wouldn't be fit to tie Giovanni Trappatoni's shoe-laces!!! After all, he is the coach who picks players by their star signs (Robert Pires)!!!! The disaster that is Domenech will be the French down-fall against us Irish - and the FFF won't keep him in a job after that. We made it in 1994 and the French didn't - WILL happen again!!

09-11-2009, 20:43	#18
EmilioLargo Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Services: Sky+, Freeview, Orange Posts: 113	How about an RTE/BBC joint bid? The game cannot be shown exclusively on pay TV in Ireland anyway so it might make sense for them to bump up the offer price by bidding with the BBC. It would not sell any more pay TV subs in the UK at this short notice so there seems no point in ESPN or Sky bidding. In the past RTE have been able to pick up some sport cheaply curtesy of the BBC buying UK rights (also shown in ROI) and RTE coming in later wiith a complimentary offer so maybe RTE and the BBc will do a complimentary bid? Five might have a look (maybe with TV3?). If they cant sell the game in the UK I suppose Europort will show the match as they have shown a lot of France home games in the past (when they are not playing UK teams).

09-11-2009, 20:45	#19
krooney Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: County Down Services: Tiscali, Telefis Eireann, TV3, Freeview, ESPN, DAB/Internet Radio, PS3 Posts: 353	So long as it's shown on some channel we''ll not be left with an internet stream a la Ukraine vs England.

11-11-2009, 20:50	#22
erneboy Forum Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 26	2ed leg will be on RTE 2, not shure abouth UK coverage

13-11-2009, 23:06	#24
EmilioLargo Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: UK Services: Sky+, Freeview, Orange Posts: 113	Looks like RTE/SKY, I looked the other day and there was nothing. Under the Sport on TV section of the RTE website it now says World Cup Playoff (To be confirmed) The Sky EPG has 7:30pm: Football TBA

16-11-2009, 17:45	#25
Akilduff Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,523	The Irish Examiner ran an update today - still no progress. Rest assured if RTE get the rights, it'll be brought to the greatest public attention possible. They'll probably interrupt all scheduling and it'll be top story in the news...