[ardmajell55]

In all this wall to wall coverage of the terrible twins on british tv radio, press and any other outlet available, none seem to have considered consulting the viewers watching this circus but not able to vote on it, Jedward's fellow citizens in Ireland and the media there.
i think it might be instructive if they did, since they would have got it in proportion. there's open derision and embarassment in Dublin [except in their own small town outside the city where they're lapping it up]. thewhole country is desperately hoping these two will get voted out, and are looking on in disblief at this spectacle.

[noorani]

I think that's a bit unfair of them actually. The lads have been entertaining, and all of that, but at the end of the day they are too well brought up young men and I think that's something to be proud of. They're not total idiots and I think they could become good role models for those younger than them.

[fairycakes]

I`m from Wicklow (a county bordering Dublin) and I absolutely adore the boys. So theres proof that the whole country doesnt hate them.

[Hermanazo]

It's split 50/50. I know a lot of people here in Dublin that absolutely adore them but also a lot who want to slap their faces.

[ardmajell55]

Originally Posted by noorani

I think that's a bit unfair of them actually. The lads have been entertaining, and all of that, but at the end of the day they are too well brought up young men and I think that's something to be proud of. They're not total idiots and I think they could become good role models for those younger than them.

i'm not saying that i agree with them [down south, i mean]on the twins. as you say, they work hard and aren't hooligans by any stretch. they didn't force themselves on to the live finals and as lucie said they deserve to be there. good luck to them

[Eurostar]

I'd say opinions are very mixed here.There have definitely been a lot of negative articles about them in the press but quite a few positive ones as well.

TV3's Expose have been giving extensive coverage to the boys every night (the fact that TV3 have the rights to The X Factor is probably a big help).

[ardmajell55]

[quote=fairycakes;36568054]I`m from Wicklow (a county bordering Dublin) and I absolutely adore the boys. So theres proof that the whole country doesnt hate them.[/QUOTE]

sorry, fairycakes. i was exaggerating there.

[Ashroh]

I'm from the other side of Dublin to the twins and the whole country defo doesnt hate them!!
lots of people love them!
and Xpose, a programe on our tv channels is openly supporting the boys!!

[Eurostar]

Btw I passed three teenage girls on the street yesterday (here in Dubin) and they were singing "Who ya gonna call? Ghostbusters!"

[fairycakes]

[quote=ardmajell55;36568210]

Originally Posted by fairycakes

I`m from Wicklow (a county bordering Dublin) and I absolutely adore the boys. So theres proof that the whole country doesnt hate them.[/QUOTE]

sorry, fairycakes. i was exaggerating there.

No need to be so sarcastic. All I`m saying is a load of people love them. My enterprise group decided to make some money by doing folders and over three-quarters of the people buying them asked for a Jedward theme. I dont see you asking about the view of Lloyd from Wales so why ask about Jedward? :/

[Mehenny]

Originally Posted by ardmajell55

In all this wall to wall coverage of the terrible twins on british tv radio, press and any other outlet available, none seem to have considered consulting the viewers watching this circus but not able to vote on it, Jedward's fellow citizens in Ireland and the media there.
i think it might be instructive if they did, since they would have got it in proportion. there's open derision and embarassment in Dublin [except in their own small town outside the city where they're lapping it up]. thewhole country is desperately hoping these two will get voted out, and are looking on in disblief at this spectacle.

I would say overall it's fairly mixed, similar to how it is in the UK.

Certainly before the live shows, anything I heard about them was pretty negative, but it got a lot more positive once people could see they weren't the obnoxious brats they had been painted as in the audition/bootcamp stages.

[Bantrybuzz]

I too have to say ardmajell55 is very wrong,most people here like j&e, they bring a smile to peoples faces and i for one think that's worth something in these times .....

[aine123]

i'm from dublin and i love them
i think that opinion is pretty much evenly divided but i fear the abuse they will get when they come home

[streetlegal]

I don't think most people in Ireland take these things very seriously, so they have no problem viewing John and Edward as fun entertainment on a Saturday evening. End of story.

Irish people enjoy 'a bit of craic', and the Twins are seen by many here as good craic! We also tend to admire a rogueish 'chancer', and the Twins are that also. I honestly believe that the Twins auditioned for X Factor as a lark, never expecting to get this far.

Remember the first audition? Simon described the Twins as irritating and arrogant. Dannii described them as cocky. But Louis immediately defended them, saying: "They're not cocky. They're cheeky. They're Irish!". I think Louis was exactly right in his assessment. Ms. Minogue still seems to find it hard to see the funny side (her "Well, maybe we should all just rap, then" was ridiculous!).

In recent days, I have heard some people expressing genuine concern for the Twins' wellbeing, especially as the hate campaigns seemed to take a lot of the fun out of show. The tabloids haven't nearly the same degree of influence here, so some of the garbage written about the Twins is hard to comprehend (especially as this is written by supposed adults about two inoffensive 18-year olds!).

As for accusations that they are knocking out the real 'talent', I think many people find it hard to take that too seriously either. Most really talented young singers and musicians are out there putting in a hard apprenticeship in pubs and clubs (and, perhaps, MySpace), slowly building up a following and perfecting their art. They wouldn't dream of auditioning for shows like X Factor.

I think the same is true in Britain, to be honest. I just read a piece by Ray Davies (of Kinks fame) where he expresses concern about the effect on music and genuinely talented young musicians of shows like this. One of his concerns is that the vulnerable young performers on X Factor are obliged to please four individuals - and especially The Great One - as if Cowell, Cole, Minogue and Walsh were arbiters of all that is good and worthwhile in the world of music. Would the likes of Ray Davies, Neil Young, Bob Dylan, etc., etc., have managed to satisfy the limited musical tastes of CCM&W? Very unlikely!

So, I think most people in Ireland are wishing J&E lots of success, but not at the price of their own sanity or safety.

[Irish Princess]

I'm from Dublin and live in Cork and am a big fan of the twins. Not because they are Irish though, they have won me over by themselves. I think they are great and I think they were treated badly on last night's show and it made uncomfortable viewing. At the end of the day they are young men and I am sure have feelings. People should remember that. There is no reason why they would be any more hard-skinned than Danyl, they are younger than him and don't have the same world experience.

[HughOS]

Mixed I'd say, with maybe more liking them. Earlier on there was widespread embarassment but people have come around. There's a feeling of protection around because they're two young lads caught up in a media circus, and I think people feel proud of them too.

[ardmajell55]

Originally Posted by Bantrybuzz

I too have to say ardmajell55 is very wrong,most people here like j&e, they bring a smile to peoples faces and i for one think that's worth something in these times .....

it looks like i was ill informed about the strength of J&E's support back home, so i'm happy to concede my error especially as i think they deserve to be there, and are not taking votes from anyone else.

[ardmajell55]

[quote=fairycakes;36568470]

Originally Posted by ardmajell55

No need to be so sarcastic. All I`m saying is a load of people love them. My enterprise group decided to make some money by doing folders and over three-quarters of the people buying them asked for a Jedward theme. I dont see you asking about the view of Lloyd from Wales so why ask about Jedward? :/

i'm not being intentionally sarcastic, and i'm sorry that's how it came across. as to lloyd, i have posted on the likely voting or not from Welsh viewers. i thought lucie was the stronger act, and didn't deserve to go last night, but i don't in any way blame the twins for that. lucie obviously hasn't. hope the record is now put straight.

[Eurostar]

Originally Posted by ardmajell55

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it looks like i was ill informed about the strength of J&E's support back home, so i'm happy to concede my error especially as i think they deserve to be there, and are not taking votes from anyone else.

I notice the Irish tabloids are very supportive of them.They're on the front page every day but there's no hostile coverage ; I think their slightly anarachic routines appeal to the Irish pysche

[kyri]

Originally Posted by ardmajell55

In all this wall to wall coverage of the terrible twins on british tv radio, press and any other outlet available, none seem to have considered consulting the viewers watching this circus but not able to vote on it, Jedward's fellow citizens in Ireland and the media there.
i think it might be instructive if they did, since they would have got it in proportion. there's open derision and embarassment in Dublin [except in their own small town outside the city where they're lapping it up]. thewhole country is desperately hoping these two will get voted out, and are looking on in disblief at this spectacle.

Well they seem to be getting votes from somewhere...

[ardmajell55]

Originally Posted by Mehenny

I would say overall it's fairly mixed, similar to how it is in the UK.

Certainly before the live shows, anything I heard about them was pretty negative, but it got a lot more positive once people could see they weren't the obnoxious brats they had been painted as in the audition/bootcamp stages.

that could explain why my information about J&E's reception at home was out of date. well i'm glad to hear it is out of date now.

[wildyounghearts]

Yeah - the Irish press is slightly bemused by Jedward but generally supportive- or at least not particularly unsupportive

I think the idea of performing a 'character assassination' on two 18 year old boys from Lucan would not play well- so the press here are slightly more restrained

But then tabloid papers have few genuinely held views- for example- one of the (many) reasons I don't like the Daily Mail is that character assassination on Stephen Gatley by Jan Moir which was never printed in the Irish Daily Mail edition- if they really felt the article was appropriate and valuable comment- (which it wasn't)- they would have printed it here too- the fact that they didn't says all you need to know

[quasimoron]

Originally Posted by ardmajell55

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it looks like i was ill informed about the strength of J&E's support back home, so i'm happy to concede my error especially as i think they deserve to be there, and are not taking votes from anyone else.

I dont know them, I never will why would I be embarrassed.Are English fans embarrassed by Staceys bizarre little fits.
I was a keen Luci fan, I liked her voice , she was very gracious and showed Bitchy Dani up.The best vocalist IMO there.But I dont blame the fans for her demise, she simply did not get the votes, though she deserved them. Why is the twenty dollar question.
She should have stayed over them, but Simon went for stalemate.I was sure they were gone.But none of it is their fault and they are very young.

The twins are no worse than Lyod and how many songs has Danyl messed up so far.He was good at the auditions and crap since.Jamie is a pub singer no more and Olly a Pontins act.Stacey is very frozen on stage and limited vocally.Joe is a charisma free zone.
I have heard the same in College as on here, they are ruining the show and putting out better acts.What better acts, none of them will get anywhere.

If the twins had to leave first week, as everyone expected, the same ones would have been bottom two and gone.Whose fault would it be then.No scapegoat for people to bully and vilify.
The twins are being victimized and I blame Simon Cowell, the words he used are the ones I hear on here and other places, horrors etc.He was egging on the booing also in the audience.Now we have two crying boys being attacked on Tv.Its blooming wrong, just wrong.When he gets the chance to get rid, he funks it.What was that about.

I hear Simon is trying to sell the Xfactor to America, what do Americans think of British people from watching the behaviour on that show.Booing screaming and bullying two young lads.Is that something to be proud of.They are the ones should be embarrassed by their uncouth loutish behaviour not the twins.Now that is what people should be ashamed of, not a perceived lack of talent.Do the Americans want this sort of behavior on their screens.I doubt it.

[Eurostar]

Originally Posted by wildyounghearts

Yeah - the Irish press is slightly bemused by Jedward but generally supportive- or at least not particularly unsupportive

I think the idea of performing a 'character assassination' on two 18 year old boys from Lucan would not play well- so the press here are slightly more restrained

But then tabloid papers have few genuinely held views- for example- one of the (many) reasons I don't like the Daily Mail is that character assassination on Stephen Gatley by Jan Moir which was never printed in the Irish Daily Mail edition- if they really felt the article was appropriate and valuable comment- (which it wasn't)- they would have printed it here too- the fact that they didn't says all you need to know

I think it would look bad to see the Irish papers bashing an Irish act competing on a UK TV show.Their coverage has become more and more positive in recent weeks too ; hardly a suprise as it's been a long time since we've seen an act from the Republic on The X Factor.

[streetlegal]

Hey, we're the people who sent Dustin the Turkey to Eurovision!