The Stock, Aitken and Waterman thread. - Music

Superstoked · 09-11-2009, 22:34

I know people are going to have a good laugh but S.A.W were great back in the day.
The lyrics in some songs were pretty bad but they knew how to put together a HIT, make people dance and have a good time.
I only wish todays youngsters would have been alive to appreciate what music with a melody involved.

Now I wonder if anyone remembers these guys?
Despite the hideous vocals I do really like this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU4MRkWt2LY

scofo76 · 09-11-2009, 22:39

Yeah you could always tell a S.A.W track just by hearing it. Here's another (ahem) "classic"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nn6E3fmY50

Superstoked · 09-11-2009, 22:41

I was listening to that earlier today, Brought back so many great memories.

Here's another couple I like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46l-yzQ4GhI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrj7_XcDvYQ

Mr Giggles · 09-11-2009, 23:33

Stock, Aitken and Waterman murdered the music scene in the 80's, they flooded the charts with their mindless drivel and sadly the gullible public bought that shit.

Then the Brit awards came along and three guesses who won most of the awards.

Stock, Aitken and Waterman should be shot for crimes against music.

RussellIan · 09-11-2009, 23:36

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Originally Posted by Superstoked

Now I wonder if anyone remembers these guys?
Despite the hideous vocals I do really like this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU4MRkWt2LY

I remember them - and those 80s jeans - and how Smash Hits would often quip the boys were more like "Big Bum"

Superstoked, you might want to take a peek here, if you aren't already an acolyte that is: http://www.hitfactoryforum.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl

Personally my favourite 'phase' of SAW tracks are those predating the 'Kylie' and beyond era; it seemed at that point like they hit a certain 'chart' formula and subsequently milked it to death, combined with an encroaching sound that was more house/funky than their previous Hi-NRG sound, and thus less 'pure'. I prefer the stuff like Hazell Dean's Whatever I Do, Divine's You Think You're A Man, Princess's I'll Keep On Loving You, The Banana's I Heard A Rumour, Carol Hitchcock's Get Ready, and Michael Davidson's Turn It Up (from the Who's That Girl soundtrack).

That's not to say there weren't still gems to be mined - I think Kylie's Got To Be Certain and Made In Heaven are slices of pop genius, and that Donna Summer's Another Time Another Place album is quite a beautiful thing which ranks amongst their best ever work.

Probably my favourite ever SAW track though is ironically one which never saw the light of day commercially, thanks to stupid legal wrangling which resulted in what I regard as a criminal omission:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ6e_U0oz8Q

spaceygal · 10-11-2009, 01:38

Best SAW track ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ll73OafWYE

spaceygal · 10-11-2009, 02:24

And another 3 songs written and produced by SAW that I always loved, all sung by the same great artist:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBTlyD1xHtI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucWT1tvS1Po
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgnPLS68tss

spaceygal · 10-11-2009, 04:31

And my favourite Bananarama SAW song (should have been a much bigger hit than it was!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDEMYiOFtQ

Plus a great song they wrote and produced for Mondo Kane (very different to anything they'd done before or after):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWGCZXGePTw

and a couple of fun ones they recorded themselves (they appear in both videos):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF28Z_lr3t4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk-wxPlUQFU
(Sinitta, Kylie & Jason make an appearance in this one!)

retro.ron · 10-11-2009, 06:22

I played lot of their stuff during my years on the mobile disco scene their songs always filled floors it was SAW who launched Kylie they had loads of artists on their label!

SAW got slagged off a lot of the time but they found a niche in the market at the time on the subject of songs that filled dancefloors at the time along came " Jive Bunny! their songs got a lot of stick as well like SAW but again they scored a few hits!

PS my favourite SAW track " This time i know its for Real" by Donna Summer great track!

mushymanrob · 10-11-2009, 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Giggles

Stock, Aitken and Waterman murdered the music scene in the 80's, they flooded the charts with their mindless drivel and sadly the gullible public bought that shit.

Then the Brit awards came along and three guesses who won most of the awards.

Stock, Aitken and Waterman should be shot for crimes against music.

i couldnt agree more....

uggla · 10-11-2009, 08:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Giggles

they flooded the charts with their mindless drivel and sadly the gullible public bought that shit

That could of been a quote from an x factor thread.

I rate S.A.W alot highly than that drivel.

SharpshooterTom · 10-11-2009, 08:27

Agreed. I'd take Rick Astley over any of those X Factor clowns anyday. At least SAW wrote some decent songs. 'Bad Boyz' lol my arse.

After Leona/BEP no.1 this week there's every chance the remaining six weeks of the year will be all X Factor. X Factor are way worse than SAW.

retro.ron · 10-11-2009, 16:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpshooterTom

Agreed. I'd take Rick Astley over any of those X Factor clowns anyday. At least SAW wrote some decent songs. 'Bad Boyz' lol my arse.

After Leona/BEP no.1 this week there's every chance the remaining six weeks of the year will be all X Factor. X Factor are way worse than SAW.

I would not disagree with that!

Gulftastic · 10-11-2009, 16:52

SAW's best period was when they were producing a newly sexed-up Kylie on 'Better The Devil You Know' & 'What Do I Have To Do and 'Shocked'. All corking tracks.

BTW, all traditional SAW tracks start with an instrumental run through of the song's chorus.

Rossall · 10-11-2009, 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceygal

Best SAW track ever:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ll73OafWYE

Computer says 'give me some earplugs'.

THIS is their best moment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucWT1tvS1Po

mushymanrob · 10-11-2009, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharpshooterTom

Agreed. I'd take Rick Astley over any of those X Factor clowns anyday. At least SAW wrote some decent songs. 'Bad Boyz' lol my arse.

After Leona/BEP no.1 this week there's every chance the remaining six weeks of the year will be all X Factor. X Factor are way worse than SAW.

much as i hate (in general) 90% of SAW tracks i agree that their material was superior to x factor....

Marksw76 · 10-11-2009, 19:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by mushymanrob

much as i hate (in general) 90% of SAW tracks i agree that their material was superior to x factor....

I (think) unless I'm mistaken, there is actually some sort of link between Cowell and SAW even back in the 80s

Cant remember what it was, either his first record label (that went bust) used to release some SAW artists or he was somehow involved in the production somewhere along the line

Not sure, maybe someone else knows. either way its all s**te

Brampton · 10-11-2009, 19:39

Woah! Never heard that Debbie Harry track before, its excellent thanks for the link, I really liked the SAW mix of In Love with Love aswell.

As far as the Cowell/SAW link goes, Cowell owned fanfare records whose main artist was Sinitta, although I am sure there was further involvement somewhere else too.

retro.ron · 10-11-2009, 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brampton

Woah! Never heard that Debbie Harry track before, its excellent thanks for the link, I really liked the SAW mix of In Love with Love aswell.

As far as the Cowell/SAW link goes, Cowell owned fanfare records whose main artist was Sinitta, although I am sure there was further involvement somewhere else too.

SAW helped Sinitta to get several hits on cowells fanfare label then they licensed Fanfare to bring out SAW album but the fanfare label( parent label run into trouble) and was taken over by BMG where Cowell started working there as an A&R man thats the connection something like that it was a while ago!

scottyg · 10-11-2009, 20:05

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPs_IksWVaQ

Wasnt this one of theirs? I used to like this as a kid but didnt know who sang it, and as someone has touched on the X Factor I can really see John and Edward doing this

CheeseyDude1337 · 10-11-2009, 20:16

/|\
/\
STICK RICK
HES NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP.

That is getting predictable (its the 5th time ive done it)

But this thread needed it.

I dont watch the x factor but i'd vote jedward anyway.
This thread is a Classic, SuperStoked, We are now Best freinds.

Anyway S.A.W. Were terrible I even made a video proving it.

spoiler:
Finding that link, I realised that 'Never Gonna Etc' and 'Together forever are almost the same apart from different words, and have the exact same time (three minutes thirty seconds and 5/7 seconds)

spoiler:
Couldn't Resist... (How Couldn't you see it coming dumbo)

And i was the first do it.

Brampton · 10-11-2009, 20:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottyg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPs_IksWVaQ

Wasnt this one of theirs? I used to like this as a kid but didnt know who sang it, and as someone has touched on the X Factor I can really see John and Edward doing this

That reminds me of the Hitman and Her which was basically a promo for many a SAW track.

Chickens hit · 10-11-2009, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussellIan

Probably my favourite ever SAW track though is ironically one which never saw the light of day commercially, thanks to stupid legal wrangling which resulted in what I regard as a criminal omission:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ6e_U0oz8Q

OMG! I never knew The Goddess recorded with SAW. Am gobsmacked. Thanks for posting the song.....you learn something new everyday!

romcomqueen9 · 10-11-2009, 20:50

SAW represent my childhood. Those songs are always great to dance to at any night club, disco or party.

Quote:

Originally Posted by retro.ron

PS my favourite SAW track " This time i know its for Real" by Donna Summer great track!

ITA. I love this song.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gulftastic

SAW's best period was when they were producing a newly sexed-up Kylie on 'Better The Devil You Know' & 'What Do I Have To Do and 'Shocked'. All corking tracks.

BTW, all traditional SAW tracks start with an instrumental run through of the song's chorus.

Earlier Kylie was brilliant, and when I was younger my favourite song by her was "Wouldn't Change A Thing" and "Never Too Late". Now, I love "What Do I Have To Do" and "Shocked".

I also love this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR3pQpqeqSc and this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nl46l8XHvg

romcomqueen9 · 10-11-2009, 21:11

I also like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaUE-...eature=related

09-11-2009, 22:34	#1
Superstoked Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,301	The Stock, Aitken and Waterman thread. I know people are going to have a good laugh but S.A.W were great back in the day. The lyrics in some songs were pretty bad but they knew how to put together a HIT, make people dance and have a good time. I only wish todays youngsters would have been alive to appreciate what music with a melody involved. Now I wonder if anyone remembers these guys? Despite the hideous vocals I do really like this song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU4MRkWt2LY

10-11-2009, 20:16	#21
CheeseyDude1337 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Stick Land Posts: 240 Blog Entries: 2	/\|\ /\ STICK RICK HES NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP. That is getting predictable (its the 5th time ive done it) But this thread needed it. I dont watch the x factor but i'd vote jedward anyway. This thread is a Classic, SuperStoked, We are now Best freinds. Anyway S.A.W. Were terrible I even made a video proving it. spoiler: Finding that link, I realised that 'Never Gonna Etc' and 'Together forever are almost the same apart from different words, and have the exact same time (three minutes thirty seconds and 5/7 seconds) spoiler: Couldn't Resist... (How Couldn't you see it coming dumbo) And i was the first do it.

09-11-2009, 22:39	#2
scofo76 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Near Paisley, Scotland Services: Sky+HD, LG 42" LCD, One of those cheap DVD players from Asda, PS3 Posts: 495	Yeah you could always tell a S.A.W track just by hearing it. Here's another (ahem) "classic" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nn6E3fmY50

09-11-2009, 22:41	#3
Superstoked Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,301	I was listening to that earlier today, Brought back so many great memories. Here's another couple I like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46l-yzQ4GhI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrj7_XcDvYQ

09-11-2009, 23:33	#4
Mr Giggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Croydon, Surrey ♂ Services: Tiscali MAX - Sky + Courier service within the M25 Posts: 13,540 Blog Entries: 5	Stock, Aitken and Waterman murdered the music scene in the 80's, they flooded the charts with their mindless drivel and sadly the gullible public bought that shit. Then the Brit awards came along and three guesses who won most of the awards. Stock, Aitken and Waterman should be shot for crimes against music.

10-11-2009, 01:38	#6
spaceygal Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 238	Best SAW track ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ll73OafWYE

10-11-2009, 02:24	#7
spaceygal Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 238	And another 3 songs written and produced by SAW that I always loved, all sung by the same great artist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBTlyD1xHtI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucWT1tvS1Po http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgnPLS68tss

10-11-2009, 04:31	#8
spaceygal Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 238	And my favourite Bananarama SAW song (should have been a much bigger hit than it was!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDEMYiOFtQ Plus a great song they wrote and produced for Mondo Kane (very different to anything they'd done before or after): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWGCZXGePTw and a couple of fun ones they recorded themselves (they appear in both videos): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF28Z_lr3t4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk-wxPlUQFU (Sinitta, Kylie & Jason make an appearance in this one!)

10-11-2009, 06:22	#9
retro.ron Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2,844	I played lot of their stuff during my years on the mobile disco scene their songs always filled floors it was SAW who launched Kylie they had loads of artists on their label! SAW got slagged off a lot of the time but they found a niche in the market at the time on the subject of songs that filled dancefloors at the time along came " Jive Bunny! their songs got a lot of stick as well like SAW but again they scored a few hits! PS my favourite SAW track " This time i know its for Real" by Donna Summer great track!

10-11-2009, 08:27	#12
SharpshooterTom Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,726	Agreed. I'd take Rick Astley over any of those X Factor clowns anyday. At least SAW wrote some decent songs. 'Bad Boyz' lol my arse. After Leona/BEP no.1 this week there's every chance the remaining six weeks of the year will be all X Factor. X Factor are way worse than SAW.

10-11-2009, 16:52	#14
Gulftastic Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 7,482	SAW's best period was when they were producing a newly sexed-up Kylie on 'Better The Devil You Know' & 'What Do I Have To Do and 'Shocked'. All corking tracks. BTW, all traditional SAW tracks start with an instrumental run through of the song's chorus.

10-11-2009, 19:39	#18
Brampton Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 9	Woah! Never heard that Debbie Harry track before, its excellent thanks for the link, I really liked the SAW mix of In Love with Love aswell. As far as the Cowell/SAW link goes, Cowell owned fanfare records whose main artist was Sinitta, although I am sure there was further involvement somewhere else too.

10-11-2009, 20:05	#20
scottyg Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 215	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPs_IksWVaQ Wasnt this one of theirs? I used to like this as a kid but didnt know who sang it, and as someone has touched on the X Factor I can really see John and Edward doing this

10-11-2009, 21:11	#25
romcomqueen9 Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hiding til November! Posts: 583	I also like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaUE-...eature=related