Moaners and Whingers Killed BB Now they Are Killing XFactor - The X Factor

slappers r us · 10-11-2009, 00:05

Complaining to OFCOM about last nights results

It seems like you all want the Xfactor to finish for good

Lucie got the least votes, DEAL WITH IT

neelia · 10-11-2009, 00:06

Quit moaning!

solitaire1 · 10-11-2009, 00:11

I agree.. this place is full of the 'call OFCOM brigade'........

kenda11 · 10-11-2009, 00:11

no one would miss it....DEAL WITH IT

Daewos · 10-11-2009, 00:13

As unusual as it may be to agree with slappers and neelia - hear hear" Wish everybody would move on. Exactly the same last year with Laura.

mamamia · 10-11-2009, 00:14

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Originally Posted by slappers r us

Complaining to OFCOM about last nights results

It seems like you all want the Xfactor to finish for good

Lucie got the least votes, DEAL WITH IT

Exactly,hope Simon takes XFactor and BGT away from GB and let them moan about something else,you'de think he had shot the girl!!!Truth is the public shot her,LOL

neelia · 10-11-2009, 00:15

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Originally Posted by Daewos

As unusual as it may be to agree with slappers and neelia - hear hear" Wish everybody would move on. Exactly the same last year with Laura.

Don't worry. Daewos you weren't agreeing with me. I was telling OP to quit moaning

Daewos · 10-11-2009, 00:17

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Originally Posted by neelia

Don't worry. Daewos you weren't agreeing with me. I was telling OP to quit moaning

Oh - dash it! - too late to delete it as you quoted it.

Just pretend my reading was correct and we will leave it at that.

Tiffani · 10-11-2009, 00:18

People are just so used to getting what they want these days they will throw a tantrum and call ofcom when their favourite gets voted out. Everyone knows it was not a fix, Simon Cowell just made an unpopular decision the same as when Louis voted out Maria in series 2 and kept the Conway sisters. BTW why is everyone so up in arms about Lucie now when she was hardly even mentiond before she was voted out.

Kapellmeister · 10-11-2009, 00:18

OFCOM = ratings = cash for Cowell. He don't care one bit.

neelia · 10-11-2009, 00:21

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Originally Posted by Tiffani

People are just so used to getting what they want these days they will throw a tantrum and call ofcom when their favourite gets voted out. Everyone knows it was not a fix, Simon Cowell just made an unpopular decision the same as when Louis voted out Maria in series 2 and kept the Conway sisters. BTW why is everyone so up in arms about Lucie now when she was hardly even mentiond before she was voted out.

What about those of us who are pissed off with him and where Lucie wasn't even in their top three.

Must of the posts I've read are not up in arms about Lucie, there are annoyed because Simon slated an every week saying that they shouldn't be there and then copped out of making a decsion when he could have voted them out. It is imaterial who was the other act, unless it was one he had slated as consistently

paralax · 10-11-2009, 00:21

We had all this last year when Laura went out, the kiddies who don't get their own way start stamping and screaming.

She got the lowest votes, can't people get that? J & E are more popular with the public than she was and I am not surprised, she is an average singer who was totally boring, so is Joe, so is Lloyd, so is Stacy, Danyl at least brings some interest with him, Olly is the twins but with a better voice and Jamie for some reason is only firing on two cylinders because Simon is holding him back, probably because he has chosen the winners song with Danyl in mind.

neelia · 10-11-2009, 00:21

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Originally Posted by Daewos

Oh - dash it! - too late to delete it as you quoted it.

Just pretend my reading was correct and we will leave it at that.

It'll be our secret

neelia · 10-11-2009, 00:22

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Originally Posted by paralax

We had all this last year when Laura went out, the kiddies who don't get their own way start stamping and screaming.

She got the lowest votes, can't people get that? J & E are more popular with the public than she was and I am not surprised, she is an average singer who was totally boring, so is Joe, so is Lloyd, so is Stacy, Danyl at least brings some interest with him, Olly is the twins but with a better voice and Jamie for some reason is only firing on two cylinders because Simon is holding him back, probably because he has chosen the winners song with Danyl in mind.

It is meant to be decided on the judges vote. Can't people get that?

Fudd · 10-11-2009, 00:26

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Originally Posted by neelia

It is meant to be decided on the judges vote. Can't people get that?

And the judge's tied 2-2 which means that the next part of the process had to be taken into consideration - namely the public vote.

kyri · 10-11-2009, 00:27

They'll get over it.

caz789 · 10-11-2009, 00:32

I'm sorry but the reason people are complaining all the time is because the producers are going too far, exactly like they did on BB. This is what I've been saying all series, it gets viewers in the short term but it alienates part of the audience and ultimately destroys the show. Angry viewers are not good in the long-term. Seems blindingly obvious that to me but still.

Voting drops off and becomes erratic and influenced by the betting market and producer manipulations.

It probably won't be lack of viewers that does it here, it will be Cowell's ego once he can't rig it anymore.
Good luck trying it in America Simon.

And I didn't complain about this and I love John and Edward, which is why I'm annoyed at the way they are being used.

EDIT - I'm not sure what Ofcom are meant to do about this but they won't investigate anyway so nevermind.

Daewos · 10-11-2009, 00:32

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Originally Posted by neelia

Must of the posts I've read are not up in arms about Lucie, there are annoyed because Simon slated an every week saying that they shouldn't be there and then copped out of making a decsion when he could have voted them out. It is imaterial who was the other act, unless it was one he had slated as consistently

Were many people really surprised by what happened - it was obvious that Lucie was a goner as soon as Jedward were in the final two. SC is only interested in ratings and publicity - that is why Jedward were saved - the rest are bland or toxic in the press. As Jedward are what the media focuses on it so allows the rest to get on with it and stops the negative press over Danyl. When did he last get a major kicking in the tabloids?

Jedward will be dumped when it suits Simon, not before. They are the victims here, they are the one getting all the hate the furore causes. Their faces on Sunday said it all.

neelia · 10-11-2009, 00:34

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Originally Posted by Fudd

And the judge's tied 2-2 which means that the next part of the process had to be taken into consideration - namely the public vote.

Only because Simon decided to put it to the public vote. That is how he expressed it. Not voting to save the twins but voting to put it to the public.

neelia · 10-11-2009, 00:36

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Originally Posted by Daewos

Were many people really surprised by what happened - it was obvious that Lucie was a goner as soon as Jedward were in the final two. SC is only interested in ratings and publicity - that is why Jedward were saved - the rest are bland or toxic in the press. As Jedward are what the media focuses on it so allows the rest to get on with it and stops the negative press over Danyl. When did he last get a major kicking in the tabloids?

Jedward will be dumped when it suits Simon, not before. They are the victims here, they are the one getting all the hate the furore causes. Their faces on Sunday said it all.

Jedward and Lucie are the victims here. I was disappointed for Lucie but I was and am seriously concerned for the twins. The way Simon acted has IMO put them in danger.

Chorlton2 · 10-11-2009, 00:44

Whilst agreeing with the OP up to a point, I don't believe it is the "moaners and whingers" that are killing the XFactor. Rather, it seems to me, it is down to the ridiculous circus that it is turning into.

Aside from the sometimes questionable decisions and general antics of the panel, the show has become incredibly over produced, with mass backing singers and unnecessary dancers prancing about distracting from the actual performances of the contestants. On top of that, the audience this year is more irritating than usual, with their incessant cheering, hooting, clapping and general din, both during the performances and the judges talking.

For these reasons, I honestly think that the XFactor has now virtually passed its sell-buy date and certainly seems to be going down a very similar path to BB. It really wouldn't bother me at all if this were to be the last series.

Nonetheless, I still watch the show as it brings a bit of frivolous escapism into my life each week.

If any programme seriously offends me, I simply switch over to watch something else. Complaining to Ofcom would go against my principles and I don't know if it would really achieve anything worthwhile.

Tiffani · 10-11-2009, 00:47

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Originally Posted by neelia

What about those of us who are pissed off with him and where Lucie wasn't even in their top three.

Must of the posts I've read are not up in arms about Lucie, there are annoyed because Simon slated an every week saying that they shouldn't be there and then copped out of making a decsion when he could have voted them out. It is imaterial who was the other act, unless it was one he had slated as consistently

Just because Simon went to deadlock it doesnt mean it was a fix. In the end Lucie had the least votes and she went and that was the most fair way of deciding things.

neelia · 10-11-2009, 00:49

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Originally Posted by Tiffani

Simon is allowed to change his opinion if and when he wants to. It doesn't mean it was a fix.

If had changed his mind he should have said that he had. I haven't said it was a fix.

Deerd · 10-11-2009, 00:50

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Originally Posted by neelia

Only because Simon decided to put it to the public vote. That is how he expressed it. Not voting to save the twins but voting to put it to the public.

But Simon did exactly what he said he would do which was determine his response based on the sing-off with each act (and he's never been a huge fan of Lucie's either) receiving a clean slate - following the 2 performances, both of which had merits and flaws of a different nature but equal in measure, he was left ambivalent and unable to decide... what would you have had him do - become a hypocrite and suddenly reverse the clean slate?

neelia · 10-11-2009, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Deerd

But Simon did exactly what he said he would do which was determine his response based on the sing-off with each act (and he's never been a huge fan of Lucie's) receiving a clean slate - following the 2 performanced, both of which had merits and flaws of a different nature but equal in measure, he was left ambivalent and unable to decide... what would you have had him do - become a hypocrite and suddenly reverse the clean slate?

I would have him make a ruddy decision. It is what the judges sing off is for. If he was truely ambilvanent (and he didn't say he was), he should have gone with past performances, not just copping out.

He spouts the clean slate stuff all the time and ignores it.

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slappers r us Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: katmandoodieland Services: mountainsplashfarts Posts: 33,825	Moaners and Whingers Killed BB Now they Are Killing XFactor Complaining to OFCOM about last nights results It seems like you all want the Xfactor to finish for good Lucie got the least votes, DEAL WITH IT

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Daewos Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Scotland Services: Sky, BT Broadband Posts: 2,153	As unusual as it may be to agree with slappers and neelia - hear hear" Wish everybody would move on. Exactly the same last year with Laura. Last edited by Daewos : 10-11-2009 at 00:13. Reason: typo

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solitaire1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: ♥Team Dunno Yet♥ Services: ♣Oh any - as long as it pays well♣ Posts: 5,961	I agree.. this place is full of the 'call OFCOM brigade'........

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kenda11 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: everywhere Posts: 690	no one would miss it....DEAL WITH IT

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Tiffani Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,016	People are just so used to getting what they want these days they will throw a tantrum and call ofcom when their favourite gets voted out. Everyone knows it was not a fix, Simon Cowell just made an unpopular decision the same as when Louis voted out Maria in series 2 and kept the Conway sisters. BTW why is everyone so up in arms about Lucie now when she was hardly even mentiond before she was voted out.

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Kapellmeister Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Services: !!DJ FTW!! Posts: 434	OFCOM = ratings = cash for Cowell. He don't care one bit.

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paralax Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,521	We had all this last year when Laura went out, the kiddies who don't get their own way start stamping and screaming. She got the lowest votes, can't people get that? J & E are more popular with the public than she was and I am not surprised, she is an average singer who was totally boring, so is Joe, so is Lloyd, so is Stacy, Danyl at least brings some interest with him, Olly is the twins but with a better voice and Jamie for some reason is only firing on two cylinders because Simon is holding him back, probably because he has chosen the winners song with Danyl in mind.

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kyri Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Services: Team Walsh ~ John and Edward Posts: 20,232	They'll get over it.

10-11-2009, 00:32	#17
caz789 Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,474	I'm sorry but the reason people are complaining all the time is because the producers are going too far, exactly like they did on BB. This is what I've been saying all series, it gets viewers in the short term but it alienates part of the audience and ultimately destroys the show. Angry viewers are not good in the long-term. Seems blindingly obvious that to me but still. Voting drops off and becomes erratic and influenced by the betting market and producer manipulations. It probably won't be lack of viewers that does it here, it will be Cowell's ego once he can't rig it anymore. Good luck trying it in America Simon. And I didn't complain about this and I love John and Edward, which is why I'm annoyed at the way they are being used. EDIT - I'm not sure what Ofcom are meant to do about this but they won't investigate anyway so nevermind.

10-11-2009, 00:44	#21
Chorlton2 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 191	Whilst agreeing with the OP up to a point, I don't believe it is the "moaners and whingers" that are killing the XFactor. Rather, it seems to me, it is down to the ridiculous circus that it is turning into. Aside from the sometimes questionable decisions and general antics of the panel, the show has become incredibly over produced, with mass backing singers and unnecessary dancers prancing about distracting from the actual performances of the contestants. On top of that, the audience this year is more irritating than usual, with their incessant cheering, hooting, clapping and general din, both during the performances and the judges talking. For these reasons, I honestly think that the XFactor has now virtually passed its sell-buy date and certainly seems to be going down a very similar path to BB. It really wouldn't bother me at all if this were to be the last series. Nonetheless, I still watch the show as it brings a bit of frivolous escapism into my life each week. If any programme seriously offends me, I simply switch over to watch something else. Complaining to Ofcom would go against my principles and I don't know if it would really achieve anything worthwhile.